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General => General => Topic started by: ChristoT on 26 February 2014, 11:24:51 pm
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I thought it may help me to model my project in CAD, to work on a few details. However, I was unable to find any files for the Fazer (any model, bar the 250) to give me a starting point!
So, I thought I'd start a group initiative: model the bikes in 3D, to make a full CAD model that users can then use for precisely my kind of project (or even details like checking fits of new parts!).
I shall start on the FZS600, although certain parts will carry over to the Thou (and other bikes I'm sure!).
I have a copy of Autodesk Inventor 2013 on my laptop, but if we agree on a common file standard, I'm sure most CAD programs will open the files.
Anyone with me on this?
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Surely for modularity you are going to have to design each component separately and given the volume of components, the amount of man hours you are going to have to put in to this are going to be fairly astronomical?
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:eek ........ Im lost already!!
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Will there never be an end to this project :'( :'( :rollin :rollin
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will there ever be a start :rolleyes ..... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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He is lost in this world
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Liam: that was the plan, yes. However, as a back burner project, if several people contribute, I reckon it would be a worthwhile exercise. Plus, no-one said it had to be done by next week!
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I'm not sure you can count on many, if any, people helping as CAD work is a fairly rare skill
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I got some spare time in work today to have a play. It's autocad we use in work as well primarily.
Here's a good start for you
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/27/eryresym.jpg)
Sorry, I know it's not perfect :rollin
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Looks about right to me Mick :lol
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Ah that's the later version with the under seat exhaust, what about the earlier one?..
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I got some spare time in work today to have a play. It's autocad we use in work as well primarily.
Here's a good start for you
([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/27/eryresym.jpg[/url])
Sorry, I know it's not perfect :rollin
Mick this is amasing!!!!!..........just like looking at photograph.......uncanny
Can you do one of the noggyfighter, with grey rentec crash bars so i know how thy'll look???
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The OP was serious...
It would actually be a useful tool. Anyone actually interested?
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I was being serious too, it is auto cad we use in work.
I wouldn't have much tims to commit to helping out with it though, I'm not sure how much use the end result would be anyway? (For e.g. it would be a standard bike in the end, so Amy custom m stuff would also need to he drawn up in cad. It just seems a longer way than taking measurements and making a hand sketch to me)
By all means though, crack on with it if you think it will help you build your project bike :)
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My thinking is that once a standard bike has been built, it allows users to check their mods in 3D. Like, say, the effect of a painted frame. And if people upload their mods to a database, others can then check look and fit on their machines. I reckon as a community resource, it would prove to be very handy!
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It would take 1000's of hours to do and how are you going to measure each component accurately enough to ensure your new part would fit the bike? Not just sizes but angles and curved surfaces. You'd have to be certain the drawings were accurate or there'd be a good chance your new part wouldn't fit or it might interfere with another part that you didn't draw. It's a good idea in theory but in reality it would be a massive job. Photoshop would be a better way to go just to get a rough idea of how your design would look.
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Ditto the above as I have used CAD and photoshopping is far easier than the time it would take to get CAD drawings.
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Made this (if attachment works) in Microstation a couple of years back!
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will there ever be a start :rolleyes ..... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
True, my bad should've added talk ;)
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Im still laughing from the auto cad picture
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I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled, What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
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I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled, What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Just get scrambled eggs!
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foccing brilliant mick ,lol :lol ....is there no end to your tallents :D ........see you`ve fitted it with some low profile p6000 tyres.....dont think thats been done before ;)
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What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Totally agree. A Fazer is a Fazer and we all love them for precisely that. A pimped up Fazer is no longer a Fazer, it's just something that somebody has built to detract from the original. I've seen the project bike and if it were me doing it I would simply rebuild everything exactly as it was the day it came out of the factory. I'd clean, repaint or polish everything so it is spotless and then put it all back together so you end up with a new, old Fazer. OK, I'd add a hugger for practicality, a belly pan because I think they look right and a different can so it has a bit of crackle to it. Other than that, I'd keep it standard.
If you've never found it, have a look at the crap on www.barryboys.co.uk (http://www.barryboys.co.uk). The person that has done unspeakable things to an innocent car thinks it's great, the rest of the world thinks it's a joke. We don't really want a Fazer to be the first bike to appear there......
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I get the impression most on the site love their fazer for what it is as it is, save handlebars and down pipes Christo.
Although interesting and highly skilled, What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Just get scrambled eggs!
exactly Joe ;)
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When I started in engineering, home projects and many quick work jobs were all planned out on a cigarette packet. In my own shed at that time as a non smoker it was not easy to get cigarette packets. But now I have City & Guides in auto cad and am sat at a computer that could be big enough to hold a drawing of the whole Fazer and its production line.
That said I still use sheets of paper for most jobs or if it a bit tricky graph paper is very good.
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Made this (if attachment works) in Microstation a couple of years back!
That is a useful starting point!
Got it in another format?
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What u propose doing on cad and to your fazer, is imo, like scrambling an omelette because you love omelettes :)
Totally agree. A Fazer is a Fazer and we all love them for precisely that. A pimped up Fazer is no longer a Fazer, it's just something that somebody has built to detract from the original. I've seen the project bike and if it were me doing it I would simply rebuild everything exactly as it was the day it came out of the factory. I'd clean, repaint or polish everything so it is spotless and then put it all back together so you end up with a new, old Fazer. OK, I'd add a hugger for practicality, a belly pan because I think they look right and a different can so it has a bit of crackle to it. Other than that, I'd keep it standard.
If you've never found it, have a look at the crap on [url=http://www.barryboys.co.uk]www.barryboys.co.uk[/url] ([url]http://www.barryboys.co.uk[/url]). The person that has done unspeakable things to an innocent car thinks it's great, the rest of the world thinks it's a joke. We don't really want a Fazer to be the first bike to appear there......
That would be a impressive enough achievement and one which screams to the biking nation how proud we are to be the Foccers of Britain ;)
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I am a CAD designer and you are kind of using a hammer to crack an egg. As others have said it will take hundreds if not thousands of man hours to model it, depending on the level of detail, and for what? Only useful if you are machining major parts. If you want to visualise it the 2-D Photoshop route is the way to go.