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Title: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Robbus on 17 February 2014, 10:42:11 am
I suspect the barrel is on it's way out. When I bought it the guy said it wouldn't go on to the steering lock position (not a problem for me luckily) but the key was free moving from off to on. Now it's getting to be a bit of a bugger to get on. Is there likely to be anything easy that can be done to fix up the existing barrel or should I be looking for a replacement set of locks, if so are boxeye locks the same as foxeye (just to open up the available possibilities)?


Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Chris on 17 February 2014, 12:18:31 pm
Have you tried getting some WD40 in there? get a good squirt of it in there and put the key in and out a few times, might help free it up. Worth a try and a lot easier than replacing all the locks.

Chris
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Grandma on 17 February 2014, 12:37:22 pm
Have you tried getting some WD40 in there? get a good squirt of it in there and put the key in and out a few times, might help free it up. Worth a try and a lot easier than replacing all the locks.

Chris
:)
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: wezdavo on 17 February 2014, 12:59:55 pm
Just had the same problem last night, filled it with wd40 and blew it out with a air line, its sweet now. Must of been full of crap!!
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: darrsi on 17 February 2014, 01:26:47 pm
Pull the steering to the left when putting it on lock, it does make a difference.
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: His Dudeness on 17 February 2014, 01:50:30 pm
Try pushing the key towards the front of the bike as you turn it
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Robbus on 17 February 2014, 02:08:00 pm
Ta guys, I'll give the old WD40 a blast and good old wiggle. Def preferable to replacing the locks!


Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Razgruff on 18 February 2014, 12:25:11 am
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,11341.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,11341.0.html)
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Frosties on 18 February 2014, 07:25:09 am
Errrr, sorry to be a doubter fellas but i've always used Graphite Powder/Lube in my bike locks/ignition as this contains no oils (WD40) to attract and hold any dirt.


Always worked for me for long periods...........
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Robbus on 18 February 2014, 12:34:22 pm
Hmmm, common problem then, hey ho! I'll try stuffing some grease down there at the weekend and giving it a good jiggle ;)


Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Razgruff on 18 February 2014, 12:50:19 pm
nothing will repair it other than a new lock, the best you can hope for is to keep the bits inside as lubed up as possible stop anymore wear, and ease the movements of the parts inside
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: john 087 on 18 February 2014, 02:24:25 pm
I used this cap of a deoderant cap when my ign switch was acting up. I also used some electric contact cleaner. It helps when washing the bike to keep the water and rain out as the bike is left outside at work most days in the rain. Had no problems for a good while. 
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: wezdavo on 18 February 2014, 05:39:50 pm
Hmmm, common problem then, hey ho! I'll try stuffing some grease down there at the weekend and giving it a good jiggle ;)


Cheers,
Rob


I have tried grease and its not the way!! It starts out ok but soon returned back to being a c*nt ..

After my most recent attempt I think I have cracked it, as it has never felt better, no more jiggling the key or turning the bars..

I filled it with wd40, let it sit for a minute and blew it out with a airline, then did it twice more for luck!!

So I don't think the barrel is worn on mine, I think it was just full of shit...
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: noggythenog on 19 February 2014, 02:48:21 pm
Ok everybody. :stop






No more foccing about with wd40 or grease. ;) :deal






I remembered someone on here ages ago saying that the only thing for locks is graphite.oils end up attracting more dust and making the problem worse.






My front door lock was totally focced to the stage where it was an absolute struggle to get the key fully into the lock and my missus got locked out coz she is too puny.






Anyway a quick google to amazon gets me this little bundle of joy.




1 half second blast in the lock.....instantly fixed 8) .....not only is it fixed but it is without doubt the smoothest lock i have ever encountered. :)






Leave it 40 days for your wd40 to bugger off and get some of this in there.
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Buzz on 19 February 2014, 03:26:20 pm
+1. Used it on my bicycle brake cables for years, great on front door Yale locks too.  Maplin do it for £3.
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Frosties on 19 February 2014, 03:53:10 pm
Errrr, sorry to be a doubter fellas but i've always used Graphite Powder/Lube in my bike locks/ignition as this contains no oils (WD40) to attract and hold any dirt.

Always worked for me for long periods...........


They wouldn't listen to me  :grumble   :lol :lol
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: darrsi on 19 February 2014, 03:58:48 pm
Nice one Noggy, just ordered some for £2.80 delivered on Flebay.  :)
I did look last time the subject was brought up but seemed to only find a much more expensive version, obviously just a bigger can i s'pose which i didn't really need.
 
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Robbus on 20 February 2014, 11:29:28 am
Alright already ;) Ordered up from fleabay too. Have yet to do anything with the lock as I've been away from home so I'll leave it until I can graphite the hell out of it now.

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Dead Eye on 20 February 2014, 11:36:08 am
I ordered some just for the sake of having it around... though I broke the trend and I got it from Amazon :P
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: dcurzon on 20 February 2014, 03:36:25 pm
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Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Robbus on 22 February 2014, 02:32:57 pm
Errrr, sorry to be a doubter fellas but i've always used Graphite Powder/Lube in my bike locks/ignition as this contains no oils (WD40) to attract and hold any dirt.

Always worked for me for long periods...........


They wouldn't listen to me  :grumble   :lol :lol


OK, OK, everybody listen to Frosties!! And maybe give Noggy a tip o'the hat. My wee can arrived this morning and I now have a super smooth lock  :eek  I've even managed to get it to the steering lock position without too much swearing, some sort of fandango like moves are still required with the key to achieve this but it's nice to know it'll go. Couldn't get it to PE though, I'm not fussed in the slightest about that. I was so happy I even cleaned the bugger and tightened the chain  :lol


Thanks to all contributors, I think this needs to go down as the official Foc-U lock fixing solution!


Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: noggythenog on 22 February 2014, 02:45:05 pm
Awesome result! :thumbup




All hail the almighty Frosties, foc-u master of locks & restorer of hope to all keys :lol






Im dying to use some more of mine...i might stalk supermarket car parks.....well more than usual ;)  Armed with my secret weapon, waiting on a damsel in distress to have trouble with a door lock, leaping out from the trolley store, fixing the lock...& bundling her in the boot....err i mean help get the shopping in the boot :b .




Come to think if it i havent actually put any in the fazer lock so off to the shed it is...prevention is better than cure. 8)
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Frosties on 22 February 2014, 04:46:33 pm
Great news/results fellas - pleased you've got some smooth grooves.


Errrr, sorry to be a doubter fellas but i've always used Graphite Powder/Lube in my bike locks/ignition as this contains no oils (WD40) to attract and hold any dirt.

Always worked for me for long periods...........


They wouldn't listen to me  :grumble   :lol :lol


OK, OK, everybody listen to Frosties!! And maybe give Noggy a tip o'the hat.

Thanks to all contributors, I think this needs to go down as the official Foc-U lock fixing solution!


Cheers,
Rob


Maybe give Noggy a tip...... DEFINITE TIP in my books 'cos you listened to him  :lol :lol :lol



Im dying to use some more of mine...i might stalk supermarket car parks.....well more than usual ;)  Armed with my secret weapon, waiting on a damsel in distress to have trouble with a door lock, leaping out from the trolley store, fixing the lock...& bundling her in the boot....err i mean help get the shopping in the boot :b .



Cracking idea Nog - just got to sketch up a skin tight outfit with some crutch padding and I'll be sorted as the local super hero  :D
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Andy FZS on 22 February 2014, 06:36:30 pm
Any links to ebay?
Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: noggythenog on 22 February 2014, 06:44:33 pm
Any links to ebay?
Cheers
Andy





Here you go Andy.......it's iron man...but you could buy some patches & maybe replace the helmet with a balaclava & make it your own.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adult-Iron-Man-3-Deluxe-New-Fancy-Dress-Costume-with-Eva-Chest-Superhero-/331014747157?pt=Adult_Fancy_Dress_UK&hash=item4d12043415 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adult-Iron-Man-3-Deluxe-New-Fancy-Dress-Costume-with-Eva-Chest-Superhero-/331014747157?pt=Adult_Fancy_Dress_UK&hash=item4d12043415)




The Mighty Locksmith Man!!!! 8)







Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Frosties on 22 February 2014, 07:18:30 pm
Ooooooooooooooooooowwa, I like that  :rollin cheers Noggy!




Avvin it  :lol
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Andy FZS on 22 February 2014, 07:40:56 pm
Ok cheers noggy maybe I should have been more specific:( do you have a link to lock lube stuff on ebay :)
Cheers
Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: noggythenog on 22 February 2014, 07:49:40 pm
Ok cheers noggy maybe I should have been more specific:( do you have a link to lock lube stuff on ebay :)
Cheers





Sorry Andy i was jus foccin wit you mate....my head hangs in shame :o .






I never got mine from ebay...i went retro and got it from Amazon.here's a wee link to Amazon......british factory forced labour has never felt so good. :)




http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BBTJ460/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_3p_dp_1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BBTJ460/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_3p_dp_1)

Title: Re: Ignition key hard to turn
Post by: Andy FZS on 22 February 2014, 07:50:32 pm
Cheers, I'll give it a go.