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Title: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 09 February 2014, 10:50:17 pm
Two questions:

One, what temperature do you need to set the oven to (or what gasmark?) to heat up the headlamp enough to get the lenses off?

Two, how much of a smell will that make? Because I like it here, and don't want to get kicked out!!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: Dead Eye on 09 February 2014, 10:56:21 pm
A low temperature should suffice (Gas Mark 2, maybe 3?)

You only want them in there for about 15 minutes I think, just enough to soften the glue, not melt the entire unit :P

Smell wise... shouldn't be horrific providing you don't melt anything... but if we factor in the "Christo failure quotient" then you're pretty much focced
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 09 February 2014, 11:14:17 pm
A low temperature should suffice (Gas Mark 2, maybe 3?)

You only want them in there for about 15 minutes I think, just enough to soften the glue, not melt the entire unit :P

Smell wise... shouldn't be horrific providing you don't melt anything... but if we factor in the "Christo failure quotient" then you're pretty much focced

Lovely show of confidence there...  :rolleyes

If I use the heat gun at work, what am I aiming at? These?

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Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: Dead Eye on 09 February 2014, 11:21:42 pm
No, you want to remove the clear plastic covers from the black plastic casing

What exactly are you trying to do? As in, why is it necessary for you to get to the internals?
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 09 February 2014, 11:24:47 pm
No, you want to remove the clear plastic covers from the black plastic casing

What exactly are you trying to do? As in, why is it necessary for you to get to the internals?

Well, two reasons: one the headlamps are fogged up, and pretty dirty inside. Also, I want to revisit my angel eye bulbs with LED strip running lights - and that's an internals job.

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Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: dazza on 09 February 2014, 11:26:44 pm
Christo,  put it in the microwave. I reckon 10 mins on full power should do it.   :evil
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 09 February 2014, 11:28:50 pm
Christo,  put it in the microwave. I reckon 10 mins on full power should do it.   :evil

Do what, blow up the microwave?  :eek :eek :eek


I accidentlly put some butter in foil (I didn't realise it was foil, y'see) in the microwave. Sparks everywhere! I jumped 3 feet! And it ruined the butter too!  :'(
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: Dead Eye on 09 February 2014, 11:57:02 pm
See! You forgot to take in to account the "Christo failure quotient" - its a thing I tell you!!
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 09 February 2014, 11:58:54 pm
See! You forgot to take in to account the "Christo failure quotient" - its a thing I tell you!!

Same as the "Liam flammability multiplier"? :evil
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: Dead Eye on 10 February 2014, 08:51:26 am
Nope, there is no evidence of this being a recurring phenomenon :P I safely used my butane torch on my current 600 without it igniting...
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 10 February 2014, 09:09:39 am
Christo - I did it a couple of years ago. Have a look at my thread here - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,1017.msg10784.html#msg10784 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,1017.msg10784.html#msg10784)
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: JoeRock on 10 February 2014, 12:31:11 pm
Fitting some proper HID projectors by any chance?
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 10 February 2014, 10:43:37 pm
Fitting some proper HID projectors by any chance?

Well!

Having met and talked to Deefer666 (top guy, BTW!!) today, I now have new ideas for the Fazer headlamps!

I now have 2 avenues I can explore. One is to go for angel eyes bulbs, ringed bottom and outermost sides with LEDs - my original plan. OR, I could fit the oil cooler, as the Tokyo Motor show bike has, and on the right side, fit 2 projector HIDs, one for main beam, one for high, with a virtual headlamp shape created by a ring of LED running lights, giving a frame effect.

Choices, choices!  :D
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: Kentish on 11 February 2014, 06:08:05 am
My mate done this to his headlight and it failed the MOT.
MOT tester said that the beam wasn't right or something then HID was throwing light everywhere
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: ChristoT on 11 February 2014, 07:23:43 am
My mate done this to his headlight and it failed the MOT.
MOT tester said that the beam wasn't right or something then HID was throwing light everywhere

I may need to mod the reflector. But I've seen other bikes with this idea used.
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: JoeRock on 11 February 2014, 11:56:56 am
Fitting some proper HID projectors by any chance?


Well!

Having met and talked to Deefer666 (top guy, BTW!!) today, I now have new ideas for the Fazer headlamps!

I now have 2 avenues I can explore. One is to go for angel eyes bulbs, ringed bottom and outermost sides with LEDs - my original plan. OR, I could fit the oil cooler, as the Tokyo Motor show bike has, and on the right side, fit 2 projector HIDs, one for main beam, one for high, with a virtual headlamp shape created by a ring of LED running lights, giving a frame effect.

Choices, choices!  :D


Third and best option, buy a pair of actual H4 projectors and fit them: Installation guide for retrofitting mini Bi-Xenon projectors in Motorcycle headlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3p5jedQcjg#ws)

Vastly increased amounts of light, and because they're using an actual projector rather than a reflector, you get a very clear focused light with no scatter.
The H4 modls have a built in "curtain" at the top which cuts the top of the beam off for low beam, flick a switch and it pulls up to give you full beams!
Title: Re: Headlamps in the oven?
Post by: dcurzon on 11 February 2014, 02:32:06 pm
Christo did say HID Projectors, rather than HID bulbs in the existing projectors...
 
Christo - i refer you to my thread in the FZS600 section.  My headlamp is currently away being used as a template for a projector kit.