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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: reillypadraig on 20 January 2014, 06:58:42 am
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Ok guys so most of you know I powdercoated the frame red.......wel I think now in the long run it was a bad idea... Due to the fact that it looks shit in every picture I take of it(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/myty5u8u.jpg)
So I'm going to strip it again...yes this will be the third full strip I'v done since I got the bike, and I'v only just fixed her up and running wel :-(.
I can't afford to redo the powdercoating so might just hang frame from roof of shed and spray with ye-old spray can? Bike frame will still be powdercoated protected just changing the colour eh? Going back to the black is the safest bet me thinks.
Think I might time myself this time,
I'm aiming for 3-4 hours to having just frame, wiring loom and all out haha
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Can we have a look closer than 2 miles away
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Sorry that was first photo I came to.. Here(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/ezahaby9.jpg)
Really not happy with the way it turned out...
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Back in October christo showed you what it would look like in red and other colours and I said do it silver. Im sorry it seems im rubbing it in but here is the post's, you were warned how it would look.
If you just spray it on top of the powder coat it just chip and scratch off. You have my full respect for your skill in stripping down the bike, but I would just leave it now and grow to love it
I thought it might look cool with a red frame too. So I had a friend photoshop some frame colours for me. I was surprised by the result - and not pleasently.
Tell your friend hes done a great photoshop job.
With a black fazer I think that the silver looks the best -----------------in fact I like it vey much and think it should of been that colour all along.
Just a note on the photoshop silver is that the actual silver will look much better as silver in a photoshop job like that is inpossible to do and can look just grey, but should give an idea.
I fancy polishing my cam end caps, can I just take em off or will lots of engine stuff fall out
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change the fazer script to red and do the same to the yamaha script on the tank that you hav`nt got :lol ....that will look better with a small outlay ;)
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Yea I was warned, only myself to blame, thought it would look good at the time but now I'm not so sure, up close it looks good but stand back and take a foto of it it looks pink,& shit, hmmm, wel I have to paint the engine anyway so might aswel put frame back to original colour, still glad I got the powdercoating done though even though it was wrong colour, just I know frame won't rot now
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polishing up those stainless downpipes will help,will match the can then....how about doing something with the grab handle ,chrome/polished might be good ;)
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Looks good to me, I would stay with it. Maybe some matching red on the tank, fairing, mudguard and rear plastic would look good but as I'm not really the arty type maybe others can come up with some suggestions. What about the decals from the red 1999- 2000 'S' model that someone was asking about recently or something along those lines with paint?
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Polish them? Lol p60 grade sandpaper won't take that shite of a hahahha, never though of doing anything with the grap rail to be honest, it's not even black,
I have a friend who's father works in a stainless steel factory, he is taking a pillion foot peg with him to see if the guys in the polishing dept can so anything with them... If so them half the bike is being sent lol, I tried the mirror shine on the swing arm....didn't work out so trying a different approach.
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I felt I was a bit hard on you so I have done a mock up for you as per red98 idea
The pegs are not stainless steel but are alloy and will polish up easy with metal polish but will tarnish and dull again after a while
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Lol, actually that's not half bad?
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Oh sorry I know there alloy, it's not being done the same as stainless, just polishing, but he's not sure if it will do much for the Swingarm with the anodised coating..
I did buy myself some baking powder but can't remember the mixture with water to remove the coating, and it's a pain with the sandpaper, just can't get it all of
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And here with the grap rail
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I agree. I think you need MORE red, not less, to help balance out the black. What about a red leather seat? Probably pricey though.
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Hmmmm? Dip die??? Is that still being done?
Where could u get those decals?
Red bar end weights?
Paint blue spot red on front brake calipers?
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And wheel rims.
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Not sure I'd go as far as the rims?
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I agree. I think you need MORE red, not less, to help balance out the black. What about a red leather seat? Probably pricey though.
Oh flippin heck
Wait a miniute then
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Here you are then, any more and im just going to google for a red fazer
Many years ago I recovered a seat once myself - just get some red faux leather or even cheeper vinal and it will streach over the origional and fix it like the origional I think its just stapled or somthing
Your local sign makers can do the decals in red for you
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Anodised red can, polish the downpipes up a bit, powdercoat the swingarm matt black.
That'll look reet
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Any ideas on polishing pipes? There pretty bad, red end can sounds wel, no red back there, Matt black could be done 2,
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i would!! leave the seat black?...powdercoat the wheels same colour as frame"...decals in red"..or you might end up overdoing it a bit!!
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thought that red seat might work,but now ive seen it (nice work fazersharp) i think it looks a bit tacky.....bike need something to lift it....how about silver wheels,do it yourself with a rattle can....cheap as chips ;)
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Any ideas on polishing pipes? There pretty bad, red end can sounds wel, no red back there, Matt black could be done 2,
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8580.msg86722.html#msg86722 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8580.msg86722.html#msg86722)
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Maybe a matching set of bright red leather trousers and jacket will offset it......with tassles of course? :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Yes, red seat may be too much. Very 80s!
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And here with the grap rail
I think that looks pretty good. Maybe do the fender extender red too to give you a bit of red at the front
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Keep the frame that way, definitely not worth the hassle stripping the bike down again.
Whenever I do anything to my bike, I aim to make it look like something that could have come out the factory that way.
The red frame looks good to me and I think it has potential to look fantastic. Don't like the red torque arm though, I think black would be better. I think a few red accents here and there would have a better overall effect. The red decals look nice, a black seat with red piping would look really good I reckon. Not a huge fan of rim tape generally but red rim tape might do the trick here, tis cheap to do which is a bonus. Wouldn't overdo the red now - the red frame is the statement piece - you just want a bit of red here and there to compliment it, and make the bike cohesive as it were.
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http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/hypermotard/33921d1215053761-black-body-red-frame-img_8131.jpg (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/hypermotard/33921d1215053761-black-body-red-frame-img_8131.jpg)
I think this black hypermotard is making it's red frame work and notice how little red there is apart from the frame. However, the little red details add up and I think the red Ducati logo and rim tape alone go a long to create a pleasing effect.
Don't overdo it because it's not easy to get right!
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I'm with fuzzy on this. A few red touches including rims and it'll look fine.
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+1 on the Red Rim Tape - should offset everything nicely
Not keen on the red seat, but as suggested, black seat with red piping would probably work quite well :)
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Keep the frame that way, definitely not worth the hassle stripping the bike down again.
Whenever I do anything to my bike, I aim to make it look like something that could have come out the factory that way.
The red frame looks good to me and I think it has potential to look fantastic. Don't like the red torque arm though, I think black would be better. I think a few red accents here and there would have a better overall effect. The red decals look nice, a black seat with red piping would look really good I reckon. Not a huge fan of rim tape generally but red rim tape might do the trick here, tis cheap to do which is a bonus. Wouldn't overdo the red now - the red frame is the statement piece - you just want a bit of red here and there to compliment it, and make the bike cohesive as it were.
Agree with all your comments Fuzzy. Keep the red as accents, not loads of it, in yer face! The thing that stands out to me is the blue spot callipers. The blue needs to be gone. Don't they come in silver spot too? I think silver would work. Failing that black.
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Red rim tape and change the colour of the blue spots and i think its done
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Thanks for all the replies guys, the red rim tape is probably the way to go, will keep yas updated
Oh got the headlight mod done today... 10min job, bought pre-wired 3pin light plug from halfords, €4. Straight connectors on all and done and dusted
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/u6apemad.jpg)
Well chuffed with extra bit of light!
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I put an in-line fuse in mine so I can whip it out once a year to convert back to normal for the MOT
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I put an in-line fuse in mine so I can whip it out once a year to convert back to normal for the MOT
I've never removed anything for an MOT, always passed.
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Yeh I know that is mostly the case, but thats just me wot im like. Its all about the beam angle/spread on diped not being right with both sides on- thats if they shine it on a wall chart
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Yeh I know that is mostly the case, but thats just me wot im like. Its all about the beam angle/spread on diped not being right with both sides on- thats if they shine it on a wall chart
You can do that yourself, the trick is adjusting it at night against a flat wall, as the beam's a bit ropey it's obviously much easier to make out.
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Is that the dual dipped headlight mod?
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Is that the dual dipped headlight mod?
As in having two lights on instead of just the one.
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That's the 1, easy, just that and to top pin goes to the green wire coming from the left handlebar in the blue connector in the box under the tank, that's basically it, green wire does nothing there. Look at it next time Ur under the tank, 6 wires go to the connection and 5 leave it,
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The thing that stands out to me is the blue spot callipers. The blue needs to be gone. Don't they come in silver spot too? I think silver would work. Failing that black.
Get your blue spots adonised using this tool to remove them :)
http://www.billetbikebits.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=82 (http://www.billetbikebits.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=82)
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Its been so long about 8 years since I did the mod from the old forum ive forgotten how it was - is it that out of the factory to the uk both sides have a dual filament bulb and on diped, only one filament on one bulb is used. And was it that the other diped filament was never used, and then on full beam was it both sides full filament was used.
And is it that the factory lit one was the nearside so it lit the kerb on the left which meant that when you wired the other side (driver side if a car) it would point to the right as if in europe, meaning that it was now in the face of the on comming trafic. Ergo the need to fit an inline fuse which is a bayonet spring load so you can whip it out to correct your beam for the MOT
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Its been so long about 8 years since I did the mod from the old forum ive forgotten how it was - is it that out of the factory to the uk both sides have a dual filament bulb and on diped, only one filament on one bulb is used. And was it that the other diped filament was never used, and then on full beam was it both sides full filament was used.
And is it that the factory lit one was the nearside so it lit the kerb on the left which meant that when you wired the other side (driver side if a car) it would point to the right as if in europe, meaning that it was now in the face of the on comming trafic. Ergo the need to fit an inline fuse which is a bayonet spring load so you can whip it out to correct your beam for the MOT
What? :lol
H1 was main beam dipped.
H4 only used the high beam.
With the mod they are both on low beam, with the high beam still there if needed.
But you should know all this if you've had it done?
If anything is pointing the wrong way then it's either adjusted wrong or you have the Euro light unit.
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Eh? Haven't a clue, it works, better light, anyway don't mind if it's point wrong way, traffic will see me better, anyway no mot for bikes in Ireland... Whay!!!!!!
No inline fuses needed, can do if u want but not nessisary.
Darrsi, think u explained this fuse thing before in some other thread
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Eh? Haven't a clue, it works, better light, anyway don't mind if it's point wrong way, traffic will see me better, anyway no mot for bikes in Ireland... Whay!!!!!!
No inline fuses needed, can do if u want but not nessisary.
Darrsi, think u explained this fuse thing before in some other thread
Did i ?
Was a while ago now. :)
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H1 was main beam dipped.
H4 only used the high beam.
With the mod they are both on low beam, with the high beam still there if needed.
But you should know all this if you've had it done?
If anything is pointing the wrong way then it's either adjusted wrong or you have the Euro light unit.
Told you its been so long ive forgot what was what, I took it that the standard fairing out of the factory would be nearside point to the left kerb side for the uk and the bulb on the right off. But this light (right hand one) is fitted for left hand drive countries which for them would be wired on and point to their kerb. So that when we wire it to be on- it is then pointing at our UK on comming traffic, so that was the forum mod to fit an in-line fuse to quickly convert back to factory speck for the mot beam angle test.
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I'm a bit late to the party but here is what I would do with it.
(http://i.imgur.com/mpBCkKT.jpg)
Spray the forks black and give the downpipes a rub and coat of black paint (high temp resistant, so a bbq paint would do it)
Some red rim tape on that would look the job!!
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No, no, no, no........please stop, it just looks wrong.
Sorry reillypadraig but you and me both know it doesn't quite work does it, no matter how much people try and sugar coat it (no pun intended).
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I kind of like the red because its different :) .. Avoid the temptation paint over it black with rattle cans as wont be long before every little chip n scratch will be highlighted with the powdercoated red underneath.. :\
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My thought on this is that it is the front fairing that makes it not work.
Without the front fairing you would see the complete frame & to the eye it would then work but because the fairing brakes the frame it doesnt look quite right.
I dont think the additions have made any difference to that.
I would either leave as is & enjoy the bike or i would or get a damaged fairing & cut away the sides so the frame is completely visible but the second option is allot of arsing about.
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My thought on this is that it is the front fairing that makes it not work.
Without the front fairing you would see the complete frame & to the eye it would then work but because the fairing brakes the frame it doesnt look quite right.
I dont think the additions have made any difference to that.
I would either leave as is & enjoy the bike or i would or get a damaged fairing & cut away the sides so the frame is completely visible but the second option is allot of arsing about.
And there was me thinking you were gonna suggest a tartan seat and front mudguard. :lol [size=78%] [/size]
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Sorry bud, but it just doesn't work for me. Every credit for trying it though.