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General => General => Topic started by: fazersharp on 31 December 2013, 12:25:31 pm
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From reading members "offs", would it be a good idea to have a dedicated mishap/off/crash thread.I think everyone can learn something from reading of others mishaps and can use the flowing posts that will appear to improve their own riding.
Simple things like, apart from any speed/condition issues perhaps people could learn that if they see any bits of crash debris on the entrance to a corner there may well be some in your path on the bend.
Another one I read. Travelling along duel carageway - all moving looks behind- all clear makes the manoeuvre to the right lane (I think the very same time as finishing the look behind) and in that time the right hand lane had banged on the anchors resulting in rider going in the back of the last car in the right hand lane.
So apart from reading the road ahead a little better I would take from that you need to make sure that you also re-look ahead. The two examples are what I hope I always do and are just quick examples to give the idea but the point is we can all learn things from other focers offs so having a dedicate "off" thread would be a learning tool for us all.
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*like* pressed :)
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Good idea, but shouldn't this be in the "Suggestions" thread? :pokefun
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Good idea, but shouldn't this be in the "Suggestions" thread? :pokefun
Duno ???
What do you mean to get it fixed as a "sticky"
Nothing wrong in leaving it in general to float around and be resurrected when another needs adding
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Good idea, but shouldn't this be in the "Suggestions" thread? :pokefun
Duno ???
What do you mean to get it fixed as a "sticky"
Nothing wrong in leaving it in general to float around and be resurrected when another needs adding
Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were suggesting it as a new topic rather than a thread (and then used the term "thread" myself). :o
As a topic, it would make it easier to contribute to... as well as making it easier to find other's contributions.
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3 offs so far since completing the CBT in 2007.
1. 6 weeks after completing the CBT I was approaching a mini roundabout. To my right the view is blocked by a brick wall, however as it was dark I thought I'd be able to see the headlights of any oncoming traffic. I could, but it was too late to react properly when some old chav in a scrapper came flying along at 50+ (30 roads), I panicked and grabbed a fist full of brake. Over the handlebars I went, doing my best impression of Superman.
Lesson(s) learned: Slow down and be prepared to stop.
2. New Year's Eve 2009. A lovely clear morning when I left for work 15 miles away; an absolutely beautiful day for a ride. Unfortunately while I was at work it began to snow. And it snowed and snowed... By the time I left at 21:00 there was about 6 - 8" of snow. Kit on, take it slow, should be fine. It was for most of the journey but I then noticed a 3 series BMW sitting right on my backside. I tried to gesture to him so many times to overtake me but he just sat there, roughly 5 metres behind me. As we approached a junction that has red light cameras the lights started to change to red. I panicked, worrying about 3 points and the guy sitting on backside. The front wheel then went AWOL and I slid over the stop line with the bike on my leg. I tried to get out from under the bike but kept slipping on the snow so I turned to the bloke sitting in the BMW and tried to signal that I needed help. He just sat there with his arms folded. I was lucky in that a woman and her son came round the corner and they helped to get the bike off me and upright in the gutter. As soon as the road was clear the bloke in the BMW drove away. Thankfully, the woman who helped me had a friend who lived in one of the corner houses at the junction and I was able to leave my bike there for a couple of weeks. There was also a young lad in a Corsa who offered me a lift the rest of the way home.
Lesson(s) learned: Sweeping generalisation: People in 3 series BMWs are dicks! Don't ride in the snow if I don't have to, although I had to on this occasion.
3. May 2010. About a month after getting the bike back on the road following the New Year's eve spill I was heading up to a mate's for an afternoon of FIFA. I was close to his when I had to stop before turning right into a side street. Unfortunately the lad who was pulling out decided not to wait for me and just ploughed his (mate's) Volvo into the side of me. My right foot took the brunt of the hit and my left leg stopped the bike from breaking too much as it toppled over.
Lesson(s) learned: Uninsured scratters don't pay much attention to the road when they're carrying/delivering drugs for their associates.
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Yep --- never ride in the snow
I have noticed a few instances where your right-hand view on a roundabout approach is deliberately obscured by planted hedges or a fence with the direct intention of slowing you down - you didn't (enough) and neither did the other chap.
Not sure how the 3rd one could be delt with, other than stop early and let them go first, I know some scum-bag areas and they all drive like To**ers and if im in those areas I am even more on my guard.
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I suppose I better add mine in here as well, just for learnings sake (I think that now I would have avoided all 3 of these "accidents" with having more knowledge of driving/road conditions etc, ujst daft in my youth).
#1 - December 2001 (CBT only on a 1979 Honda CB50) - Age 16. DAYTIME
Coming upto a 2 lane - roundabout, going straight ahead. took the left hand lane. started to work my way round the roundabout, dont do a shoulder check approaching the first junction (which Im not taking), then see a black Vectra beginning to overtake on the inside lane in my peripheral vision.
Thinking the car will be turning right, I find myself mistaken when it decides to leave at my first exit, going straight onto the "fast" lane of the exit, and taking me with it. No injuries, and only a broken indicator stalk (was only going about 10mph or so).
Lesson Learned. Always look around you and build a picture in your mind of whats going on. If necessary - take a junction you didnt want to to save your own arse!
#2 - 26th August 2002 (CBT Only on a 1989 Yamaha RXS100 - 2stroke) Age 17. DAYTIME
Leaving work. My work sits on a busy crossroads, and a lot of workplaces near my work let out at the same time. So I've made my way to the crossroads, and traffic is coming heavily from both directions. having only had the bike for 2 days, I think I can build the revs up and quickly shoot through at the first gap. So I keep the revs up, and when I see a gap, drop the clutch. bike come up onto one wheel - I panic, snap the throttle shut, hit a stank at the other side of the crossroads, and then pinball about the road from side to side before being tossed off into a heap (~30mph). Badly gashed knee, indicators etc damaged (Pride however, heavily damaged - This took place as my entire worplace of 300 guys was coming out of work :o :lol ).
Lesson learned - Don't be an idiot. Be patient, and wait for your opportinity. (I have also since started going left at the crossroad, can still get home that way but you only need to contend with one lane of busy traffic).
#3 - 15th November 2001 (CBT Only - 1989 Yamaha RXS100)Age 17. NIGHT TIME
Friday night. I'm going round to a mates house for a catch up and some banter. only a short journey (about 3-4 miles). I decide I wont need my protective gear, my jacket/gloves/helmet are fine. Trainers and plain jeans are fine ( :rolleyes ).
I get about a mile from my destination, and go round a sort of mini roundabout, which then leads onto a long straight. So Im going down the long straight (30mph area) and start heading down the straight. I see a car pull up to a junction ahead, but it stops, and I'm on the major road, so it should be giving way. I get closer. and then closer. speed still 30mph. It then decides to quickly pull out (presumably to get out before i get there). I realize there is not enough room for it to get out, so I move out (Into the Oncoming lane!) and speed up (!) anticipating the car to see the error and stop while i get safely around. The car decides what this situation needs is more power, not seeing I've moved out, which then subsequently plows right into the side of me (at this point 40-50mph). the bikes front wheel connects with the front wing of the car. the Bike goes from 45-0 in about 0.2 seconds and I begin flying.
First flying over the bonnet. Life turns slow motion for me about then. im then in mid air for about 1-2 seconds (felt like 10+seconds with the slow motion effect still going in the brain). Suddenly I realize. trainers and plain Jeans!!! This IS going to hurt. and so it does. I land on the ground, right on my left knee which sends me spinning around 8-10 times up the road. I come to a stop and the pain hits. HARD. (spent a few days in hospital off the back of this. tore my patellar tendon and broke my kneecap as well as various other cuts and bruises from the waist down. upper body and head was undamaged - imagine that :rolleyes )
it was also at this point, while in hospital that my mother decided I should call time on bikes, as I was now old enough to get a car.
Lesson learned - Biking gear is ALWAYS required. always ride to the conditions (1989 bike with small crappy headlight - didnt help myself be seen really). anticipate people pulling out (N.B. Drivers ARE out to kill you!)
so far, been back on bikes about 18 months now (on a "big" bike for 6-8 months) and only had one near miss - which I like to think I avoided being an off by using my head instead of panicking and driving round the issue rather than through it.
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I dont seem to crash much these days, Ive slowed down alot, but if theres a water crossing to make, I always seem to drop it in the water :rolleyes
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Not sure how the 3rd one could be delt with, other than stop early and let them go first, I know some scum-bag areas and they all drive like To**ers and if im in those areas I am even more on my guard.
There was nothing I could do. I was just pulling away from standstill as I'd waited for an oncoming car to pass before turning into the street. The lad who hit me didn't appear to even slow down, he just pulled out and into me. I later found out he's a delivery driver for a local drug dealer so I think he simply wasn't concentrating on the road. I also think he would have hit and run were it not (thankfully) for a few other people blocking his route with their cars. Following his collision with me I later found out he'd previously served a driving ban and also wrote his own car off (rolled it) 5 days after hitting me after narrowly missing a child. Not bad for someone in their early 20s. I dread to think what his insurance must cost. :eek
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Excellent thread idea.
First, CB100N on L plates. Bruv on back, dog runs out in front of car that's in front of me. Car stops, I go into back of car. Wobble, keel over. Bent forks, no injuries, bugger all damage to car. Following too close behind. Extra weight of pillion not taken into account.
Second, CB100N on L plates. Mate on back, unlit country lane, going very slowly, hit ice, off. Mate was still in a plaster cast, arm, from his last off (he'd fallen asleep on his CB125 going home from night shift, and ploughed on straight over full-size roundabout). Both ok, just a few scrapes on the bike. Me and him probably weighed more than the bike. Icy night on unlit roads. Draw your own conclusions! I don't ride when it's likely to be icy these days, but lucky enough to have choice of car or bus now.
Third. YPVS 350. Bruv on similar. Hacking down a lane we both knew very well. Come round a blind bend to find an Escort van doing a 3 pointer across both lanes. Bruv spies a gap in a hedge and heads off into the field. Slow motion, all the time in the world moment. Can't follow bruv, cos I might hit him. No room to get round either side van. So aimed for lowest part and prayed. Hit about where the front wheel was, 60-ish to zero in a nano-second. Did perfect, medal-winning somersault over bars and landed on my back in a hedge. Softest landing ever, didn't even knock the wind out of me. Rolls off of hedge to see bruv getting up in the field. He's ok. Van driver is now out of vehicle, slack-jawed expression. Me and bruv burst out laughing. 2 claims against his insurance, same make and model of bike, same colour, both riders same address and same surname!
Young and foolish, going way too fast, blasé about knowing the road. Not expecting the unexpected. How we both won our insurance claims I'll never quite know - yes, he was stupid for doing that 3-pointer on a blind bend, but we weren't exactly blame-free either.
Fourth. FZ750, brand new, literally one week old and about 300 miles on the clock. Racing a GSXR750 and proddy-tuned LC down the same road as above (lesson not learned!). Beat both, took the GSXR round the outside on a long sweeper like he was standing still, was really full of myself. Got to end of road, turned left, thought, time to take it easy (had been red-lining through the gears, 300 miles on the clock). LC comes hacking past. Thought, I'm not having any of that, tore off after him again. Completely forgot about 90deg right-hander. Managed to panic-scrub most of speed, cranked in, rear wheel clipped kerb and spun the bike out from underneath me. Cracked bone in wrist, didn't notice at the time, just worried about the bike, ran over and picked it up, damage not too bad, rode it back to the dealers to order a couple of new bits to replace the freshly scraped ones.
Young and foolish, and, well....yeah.
First instalment over, more later........
So no, Christo's not the first to be young and daft!
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Nothing major like the above from me, thank the gods, but the most embarassing one was when I was doing an IAM Observed Ride.
I missed my Observer's turn signal, realised he wasn't behind me, so decided to do a U-turn whilst going uphill. Bike gets half way round, loses speed and falls over downhill :(
Fortunately no major damage. My right wrist was bruised but nothing broken apart from a bit of fairing.
Memo to self: Do NOT try to do U-turns on a hill!
I've also had a couple of near misses, mostly through overcooking left-hand bends by not reading the limit point correctly (one, just last Friday coming back from my mother's place in Bristol!) I need to resist the temptation to use the front brake (even if gently) and use a combination of rear brake and counter-steering. Of course that's easy to say after the event, but it's an automatic reaction :(
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I've dropped my 600 once due to poor balance at the time and a semi-dead leg. Lesson to learn is that its bloody cold in February and I need more appropriate clothing. Not a real "off" though
July 2013. FZS 600
Went out with the infamous Exupnut for a ride. Rain came throwing it down but cleared up but I was still overly concerned with cornering when I shouldn't have been and didn't crank the bike over far enough and ended up target fixating on a raised embankment. Result was a shoulder impact and the bike spinning off down the road. Totalled front end pretty much. This one is a bit of an odd one (as it was so stupid from my perspective) and I could have done one of two things. One, slow down. Painfully obvious. Two, actually steer the bike - don't just stare at the corner :lol . I still have to get my head around being able to put more faith in the tyres sometimes but my 600 never gave me that much confidence I'm afraid to say. Still, that should hopefully change once its back on the road :)
Lesson: Ride to your own limits and don't be a stupid c#nt :P
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I rode into the back of a guy on a Kawasaki while we were arriving at the Farmyard Party in about 2004. No idea what I was doing / where I was looking, but suddenly he was stopped in front of me, and I walloped him. Well technically, I suppose I slid into him, as I locked the front wheel, my mudguard went under his exhaust can and collected some minor scrapes, and my fairing knocked his indicator out of its housing, no other damage done, thank foc. The guy was very good about it!
Lesson: PAY FOCCIN ATTENTION, YOU DOZY TWAT!! :lol :lol
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I had an incident on my FireBlade a few years back like this poor Copper. My work place was having new pipes being laid and the concrete was being relaid and the lovely labourer doing it hadn't put up any barriers. In my defence it was appalling weather and my visor was steamed up. The concrete was about 2 feet across and i was only going about 5mph so the front wheel dropped in and the bike sat on its fairing under the pipes. The concrete was up to the forks and i had to hose the brake callipers out as the finer concrete had seeped into everywhere. Even the fairing was full up around the pipes. My how i laughed.
Mickey
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A few tips im sure everyone knows anyway but
Never trust a green light
Never trust an indicator
Assume that they haven't seen you
That car WILL pull out
Any others ?
Also I like to find a quieter roundabout that is safe to practice going faster and faster and lower and lower and find that when its needed I have the confidence of knowing the bike can go low on that "overcooked bend" its only good enough for right handers you might say but don't forget that the roundabout will always have a left hander exit where you can practice lefts the same.
Just seen that copper picture :rollin it looks like hes doing a frank spencer "ooooh"
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A few tips im sure everyone knows anyway but
Never trust a green light
Never trust an indicator
Assume that they haven't seen you
That car WILL pull out
Any others ?
Also I like to find a quieter roundabout that is save to practice going faster and faster and lower and lower and find that when its needed I have the confidence of knowing the bike can go low on that "overcooked bend" yes its only good enough for right handers you might say but don't forget that the roundabout will always have a left hander exit where you can practice lefts the same.
Just seen that copper picture :rollin it looks like hes doing a frank spencer "ooooh"
This can lead to it's own problems.
Harlow M11 roundabout, Epping exit. On my GSXR, I figured out how to rear-wheel steer the bike on that exit. It was wide and smooth surfaced back then (and no McDonalds entrance/exit just around the bend back then either). Didn't have a crash, but got to thinking about "what ifs". E.g., what if I hi-sided into the opposite lane - a lot of trucks use that road. So packed that in.
Practicing any road until you get faster and faster is really a no-no. Sooner or later you'll overdo it and come a cropper. These kinds of antics are for the track. Do I still do it? Yes, to a degree, but I am a lot more careful generally - if anything is not quite right, I'll back off. But I still know it's not sensible. No excuses really :\
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Perhaps I should of said to do it within your own limits and I did say find a safe roundabout to do it. So that would be one where you have very good visibility all around for any oncoming cars, so you can stop (exit the roundabout)
Obviously you don't go faster and lower until you fall off. The idea is not to get into any antics but to just get a "feel" for how good - or bad your bike can grip. Your hero blobs on your foot rest are going to tell you thats far enough.
Tracks are all well and good but its not the same tarmac.(is it ????? )
But yes------ point taken
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Ok, 2nd instalment.
The big one. FZR1000 September 1991. 25 years old. Excuse if my memory is slightly hazy on this one. Had just watched Brit bike GP on tv. Warm, sunny day. Last thing I remember before the crash was zipping up leathers with the idea of cracking that road as fast as I could. (Yep, THAT road again - real bright, eh? :rolleyes ). Next thing I remember is not being able to breathe properly. Coughing and coughing, some restriction in throat. Turns out I was in ITU with a tube down my throat, having punctured one lung and collapsed the other. (they didn't want to cut a proper tracheotomy because I have a burn scar around throat and they were worried it wouldn't heal after). Surgeon's words regarding left shoulder - "obliterated" - reconstructed with prosthesis. Spiral fracture of R femur (plated). Broke 8 or 9 ribs. Punctured spleen - splenectomy carried out. Tore liver and small intestine. Complex fracture L elbow. Deep gash in lower R leg and damage to ligaments and tendons of R knee.
From what I can gather, I did indeed go for it on that road. Hit car head-on. Closing speed estimates between 120-150mph, depending on who you listen to (bit academic really). Bike is supposed to have left ground, come down, gone under car, car flips over on roof. Car supposedly doing 20mph (60 limit, but probably safe to drive between 40-50mph if driving normally).
Young and totally STUPID. Still hadn't learned, probably because I'd gotten away with it so many times before.
Despite having absolutely no memory of events (thankfully), this one DID change my attitude. I was back on a bike as soon as I was fit to ride, but much more cautious. I still ride fast (for me) today, but there's always that little voice in the back of my mind saying "what if". I tend to heed it now, and back off a little. Except for one little ride in Wales this year. Don't know why I did that. Could have just let those others go. Funny (odd). It can only have been that old thing - riding with others, blood is up, having a blast. Can't say I didn't enjoy it. Can't say it'll never happen again. And I, of all people, know how stupid it is. :\
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As its new year and inlight of Nick Chrisps chilling close call I would like to add mine.
Came to park up in the centre of town in a bike bay on the side of the road, im facing a big shop window -- its an estate agents and all the women inside are looking at me. I put the bike on the side stand----------------- only I hadn't put it out had I. It was just like only fools and horses when Delboy leans on the bar.
So now I am OCD about the side stand, kick it, is it out, kick it ,is it out about 10 times.
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Sounds like that one could've turned out a lot worse Nick :o
Mine was relatively tame is comparison, I was in the left (bus) lane of a four lane road (Mile End road, outside the Genesis cinema for any Londoners here) and a car coming the other way turned through the stationary traffic in lane 2 and hit me square in the side. Bike landed on my leg and I reckon I was lucky it wasn't broken, just twisted my ankle badly. On the plus side my leg being in the way saved any more damage to the bike. Got away with a (even more) broken fairing and snapped brake lever on the bike and a very bruised leg and twisted ankle that took 6 months to be 100% again.
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Thought I'd share my little off..... Whilst acting as an outrider on patrol we had a well organized contact from three separate positions. I could hear the zip, zip of rounds and when I started to feel the air displacement realized I was being targeted and they were starting to find there range. Just at that moment I hit a pothole and preceded to veer into the river. As I lay under water with the bike laying on my legs, lungs about to burst I had a brain wave. I ripped off the rubber fuel overflow pipe on the tank and put it in my mouth. It was just long enough to allow me to breathe. This bought me enough time to free my legs but when I raised my head above the river bank I immediately came under fire. I was well and truly pinned down. I went back into the water thinking I would drift downstream out of harm's way when I suddenly realised that all the commotion had attracted the attention of some rather large crocodiles. It was then I remembered that I had shit loads of chappie in my ration pack as the beef curry and dry biscuits kept repeating on me. So, I opened a couple of tins with the intention of hopefully diverting the crocodiles attention but as soon as I smelt that meaty aroma I just had to tuck in. I think this saved my life as the crocodiles seemed to look at me with disgust and disbelief and fucked off up the river. Sorry lads, got bored at work and it took so long to tap all this shit into my phone didn't have the heart to delete it.
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Thought I'd share my little off..... Whilst acting as an outrider on patrol we had a well organized contact from three separate positions. I could hear the zip, zip of rounds and when I started to feel the air displacement realized I was being targeted and they were starting to find there range. Just at that moment I hit a pothole and preceded to veer into the river. As I lay under water with the bike laying on my legs, lungs about to burst I had a brain wave. I ripped off the rubber fuel overflow pipe on the tank and put it in my mouth. It was just long enough to allow me to breathe. This bought me enough time to free my legs but when I raised my head above the river bank I immediately came under fire. I was well and truly pinned down. I went back into the water thinking I would drift downstream out of harm's way when I suddenly realised that all the commotion had attracted the attention of some rather large crocodiles. It was then I remembered that I had shit loads of chappie in my ration pack as the beef curry and dry biscuits kept repeating on me. So, I opened a couple of tins with the intention of hopefully diverting the crocodiles attention but as soon as I smelt that meaty aroma I just had to tuck in. I think this saved my life as the crocodiles seemed to look at me with disgust and disbelief and fucked off up the river. Sorry lads, got bored at work and it took so long to tap all this shit into my phone didn't have the heart to delete it.
LMAO!!!! your mental mate... love it :lol
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Thought I'd share my little off..... Whilst acting as an outrider on patrol we had a well organized contact from three separate positions. I could hear the zip, zip of rounds and when I started to feel the air displacement realized I was being targeted and they were starting to find there range. Just at that moment I hit a pothole and preceded to veer into the river. As I lay under water with the bike laying on my legs, lungs about to burst I had a brain wave. I ripped off the rubber fuel overflow pipe on the tank and put it in my mouth. It was just long enough to allow me to breathe. This bought me enough time to free my legs but when I raised my head above the river bank I immediately came under fire. I was well and truly pinned down. I went back into the water thinking I would drift downstream out of harm's way when I suddenly realised that all the commotion had attracted the attention of some rather large crocodiles. It was then I remembered that I had shit loads of chappie in my ration pack as the beef curry and dry biscuits kept repeating on me. So, I opened a couple of tins with the intention of hopefully diverting the crocodiles attention but as soon as I smelt that meaty aroma I just had to tuck in. I think this saved my life as the crocodiles seemed to look at me with disgust and disbelief and fucked off up the river. Sorry lads, got bored at work and it took so long to tap all this shit into my phone didn't have the heart to delete it.
I knew it was bollox once you mentioned eating Chappie. The smell of that would make me hurl.
Mickey
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A few tips im sure everyone knows anyway but
Never trust a green light
Never trust an indicator
Assume that they haven't seen you
That car WILL pull out
Any others ?
Also I like to find a quieter roundabout that is safe to practice going faster and faster and lower and lower and find that when its needed I have the confidence of knowing the bike can go low on that "overcooked bend" its only good enough for right handers you might say but don't forget that the roundabout will always have a left hander exit where you can practice lefts the same.
Just seen that copper picture :rollin it looks like hes doing a frank spencer "ooooh"
You talking about green lights, there's a crossroad junction not far from my work that i normally filter to the front of, and the record i've counted so far is seven cars jumping the red light.
I see six quite often, and i'm talking about full on red lights, not amber, before i start counting.
So yes, don't trust a green light at all, you still need to look everywhere at any junction because there are plenty of careless arseholes out there that can really spoil your day!
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My biggy.
Friday 13th Sept 1999. Riding my Bandit (yes I know) back from badminton in the twilight. Pulled into the right filter lane ready to turn right into a side road. Suddenly headlights in my offside mirror, I'm being overtaken! Wallop, get hit at speed from behind, me and bike do somersaults. I land on the ground, bike lands next to me with a jet of oil coming out of the engine casing.
I crawl to the kerb, leg a bleeding mess but otherwise all in one piece. Bike in a terrible state. Traffic all stops and a police car pulls up to check I'm OK and tells me I've been hit by some joyriders being chased by the police.
So there I am sitting on the kerb with everybody fussing around me when I see a fat copper chasing two yoofs back my way. He can only catch one, so I cross the road and stand in the other one's way. I've still got my armoured jacket and gloves on. He tries a karate kick but his chin meets the front of my glove. Down he goes and I kneel on his back until the meat wagon arrives and they throw him in the back.
Result - Bandit written off, bruises and bleeding but compensation, 9 months at Her Majesty's pleasure for the perpetrator
Lessons learned - Sometimes there's just nothing you can do about it. Don't let the bastards get away with it. When your Bandit's written off, buy a Fazer :)
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dont tend to fall off them more over them these days
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dont tend to fall off them more over them these days
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ouch, is it okish?
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My biggy.
Friday 13th Sept 1999. Riding my Bandit (yes I know) back from badminton in the twilight. Pulled into the right filter lane ready to turn right into a side road. Suddenly headlights in my offside mirror, I'm being overtaken! Wallop, get hit at speed from behind, me and bike do somersaults. I land on the ground, bike lands next to me with a jet of oil coming out of the engine casing.
I crawl to the kerb, leg a bleeding mess but otherwise all in one piece. Bike in a terrible state. Traffic all stops and a police car pulls up to check I'm OK and tells me I've been hit by some joyriders being chased by the police.
So there I am sitting on the kerb with everybody fussing around me when I see a fat copper chasing two yoofs back my way. He can only catch one, so I cross the road and stand in the other one's way. I've still got my armoured jacket and gloves on. He tries a karate kick but his chin meets the front of my glove. Down he goes and I kneel on his back until the meat wagon arrives and they throw him in the back.
Result - Bandit written off, bruises and bleeding but compensation, 9 months at Her Majesty's pleasure for the perpetrator
Lessons learned - Sometimes there's just nothing you can do about it. Don't let the bastards get away with it. When your Bandit's written off, buy a Fazer :)
Woww this tale is just a roller coaster --- being hit like that and then getting the oppo to punch one them in the face !!!. (if only every time you could)
So they had no insurance but were being chased) or followed as the police perfer to say ) how did you get a claim or whatever
Oh and I hope you wre comming from Badminton the place and not the game !!
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My favourite-
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Woww this tale is just a roller coaster --- being hit like that and then getting the oppo to punch one them in the face !!!. (if only every time you could)
So they had no insurance but were being chased) or followed as the police perfer to say ) how did you get a claim or whatever
Oh and I hope you wre comming from Badminton the place and not the game !!
I didn't punch him in the face officer, he ran into me, and then I restrained him. As my statement made clear :rolleyes I held him face down in the mud, and one of the policewomen suggested he couldn't breath properly, so I carefully twisted his head to one side... It's amazing what adrenaline can achieve.
You're right, no insurance, but a good solicitor and a claim through the Motor Insurance Bureau, which is that premium we all pay a little bit of to cover the uninsured.
I was very, very lucky. Oh and I think I won at badminton 15-13 ............
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he ran into me, and then I restrained him. As my statement made clear ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rolleyes.gif[/url])
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i had on off tonight..... :o i was lucky......happily i am fine as i was kitted up(right knee light grazing a little scuff on left hand) and FOC.ME.CO.UK..the bike isnt' THAT bad....piccys to follow
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Oh crap get sorted first. Hope you are ok
Its almost like people are still in the ditch reaching for the phone ----- must--------post------in------ off-------- thread
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i had on off tonight..... :o i was lucky......happily i am fine as i was kitted up(right knee light grazing a little scuff on left hand) and FOC.ME.CO.UK..the bike isnt' THAT bad....piccys to follow
Shit exup, glad you're ok, get some beers in.
Have you PM'd Cristo, i know he'd want to know straight away....it's ok, save your poor scratched hand......ii've done it for you.....that's what mates are for. 8)
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He texted me. Glad to hear he's ok, he hasn't replied to me yet.
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Oh crap get sorted first. Hope you are ok
Its almost like people are still in the ditch reaching for the phone ----- must--------post------in------ off-------- thread
I had an off... Where should I post it?
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what you doing old man :eek ....us thou old boys dont fall off !!!!!....glad your ok matey ;)
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Oops ,,go careful boy :)
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New Year, new model to fall off.
Glad you are ok matey.
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Yeh po
Oh crap get sorted first. Hope you are ok
Its almost like people are still in the ditch reaching for the phone ----- must--------post------in------ off-------- thread
I had an off... Where should I post it?
Yeh post it here when you are ready. Its just that it sounded like it was 5 mins ago
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Is your sarcasm detector faulty, fazersharp?
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Oh bugger, glad you're ok Pete. So first victim of the year and it's a thou? I hope this year isn't going to be the one for thou spills - not that I'd want it to be the year of the 600s (again) either.
Could it be that your new office job has left you out of practice? :lol
Come on then, what happened?
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One thing's for sure...
It woulda be a slow speed off on a Blue bike :D
Good thing you were wearing all your kit....unlike so eone i know :rolleyes
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I'll post up bike/injury pics wen i get home and let u know wot append. Bike is driveable thank foc.
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Tough luck Pete, glad you & your bike sound relatively unscathed though.
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Bad luck Pete.
My last off was a verticle stoppie into the back of my mate, proper headbutted him in the back!
Our own fault, three of us too close together, too fast and an argumentative mate (point man) who decided to stop in the middle of the road to argue with a local who had been gesturing for us to slow down.
One minute Im braking, have to slow down more so apply more brake and whoop, the bikes rear shot up pointing at the sky as Im barreling towards the back of an R6...
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Well, at least the local guy achieved his aim of getting you to slow down :-)
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Oh man, that's heartbreaking! Looks like it went down quite hard judging by the depth of the scrapes on the engine covers. Damn, fairing! Repair or replace? Fold-up levers didn't save much! Feel for you Pete. Scrapes on you don't look too bad, bit sore though eh? How? C'mon, fess up!
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eeesh, how'd it happen?
Not trivialising it because the damage to both you & your bike look painful but at least it's fairly superficial, glad it wasn't worse. Blue fairing on ebay atm:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-Fazer2001-2005-5LV-front-upper-fairing-cowl-/191042902463?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2c7b0b59bf (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-Fazer2001-2005-5LV-front-upper-fairing-cowl-/191042902463?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2c7b0b59bf)
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Blue fairing on ebay atm:
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-Fazer2001-2005-5LV-front-upper-fairing-cowl-/191042902463?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2c7b0b59bf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-Fazer2001-2005-5LV-front-upper-fairing-cowl-/191042902463?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2c7b0b59bf[/url])
They don't come up too often either, as I found out a while back - so if it's good, it might be an idea to snap it up.
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Evenin all.... I thought i was very lucky and the bike crashed well. I was doin bout 55/60 on norf circ just after a 50 cam but x-eleratin gently past a car doin 50 ish and a car about 15/20 meters behind. I could see trafick in front but it wasn't in our vicinity and was aware of only the one car behind me. All good. Then the car pulled out without any signal so i jammed the anchors but couldn't avoid him and he clipped the bike. 1 slice of Tarmac cake please. So i rolled a few times and my legs kinda stopped that and I remembered the car behind and started to go fetal thinkin i was gonna get hit ( never been more frightened in my life) then i heard a skid and the driver avoided me. Foccin lucky. Quick check and nuffin broken so I'm up and on the central barrier like a foccin rampant cricket and looked back and all was clear. Norf circ @ 6:20???? Foccin miracle. The chap in the merc who was behind me waaaand down iz window and said ...r u ok? Yes I'm ok. I'm gonna park my car by your bike wait there ok? No foccin R-gument from me. I sit on the barrier and he comes back and asks if i ok and can I walk etc and i answered yes. I asked him if he got the reg and he said ... Sorry no i was to busy tryin to avoid u. Again no foccin argument from me...so he said come on let's go sort the bike. Then the traffic came bibbin like a bunch of people who couldn't give a foc , which they didnt and stoppin us get to the middle lane where the bike ended up. My new best mate wasn't impressed and started say some unsavoury words lol but we got there in the end and got it up. I switched ignition off and started to walk up to where i went down and picked a set of house and bike lock keys that I knew I had lost and they survived the traffic nippin past ...i had a look for a traffic camera....none but it was dark.....then quickly remembered what a foccin drama it is to get any footage off the bastids ....and went back to the bike ,switched on the ignition and it fired up like the pure thoroughbred that blue bikes are ;-) so i shake the drivers hand and contemplate remembering him in my will and focced of to find somwhere to park up and look at the damage. Mmmmmmm.... I thought it would be much worse and while I was smokin the best ciggy i'd had in foccin ages lol i was already feelin better. it looks a bit shitty but it drives like normal apart from the mega clunky gear change And it wont go into neutral. It either clunks up or down into 1st or 2nd. Not sure if the clutch plates took a hit as that seems to be where the bike acted as a free yamaha crash bung ( Yama steelers my arse lol) so mainly cosmetic. Thank foc. Plastic weld? Spray job. New crutch/rotor cover. Sort the gear change and levers bar ends and new belly pan or repair?
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Hi Expnut, sorry to hear about it. Thank foc you're OK.
If you are thinking about plastic repair, you probably already know about http://www.sudden-impactuk.com/ (http://www.sudden-impactuk.com/)
As good as new. Not cheap, but usually cheaper than buying replacement.
I've had to use them more than once .... They might give you a discount for bulk ;)
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Foc, sorry you had to go through that Pete. So if I read right, it was a hit & run. Whoever hit you was a total bastard. This is why I wear a helmet cam, I cannot trust folk anymore, especially on London roads. At least there was somebody kind hearted enough to help you though.
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Wishing you a fast recovery mate. Your legs look sore has hell but you came out alive which is the main thing.
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Foccin ell that has brought up some memories from my off now :( , same side, similar damage, similar speed.
There's always a complete good egg nearby who helps out....this is never the bawbag that actually causes the accident...they are too busy doin a runner & justifying their actions to themselves & getting home in time to watch the Apprentice.
Are you walking like john wayne yet?...couple days after i had totally stiffened up, could hardly walk even though i jumped outta the grass full of adrenaline after the fall, my leg is still a bit focced.
Points to make:-
-quite allot of Blue damage......could a different colour have faired differently? :b
-someone a while back was dissing these type of levers...look like they are still working and intact.
-no copying of the noggyfighter allowed.
-get some more beers in....beer is your friend. 8)
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Difficult one without any evidence I guess... perhaps should report it just in case?
Good to see you didn't take too much damage and the bike looks pretty repairable. Plastic welding isn't terribly difficult which is good, but I'm not so certain about spray painting as I haven't had to do it and I've heard that the cold temperatures of winter can produce some less than perfect results.
Noggy is also right, more beer is a good thing. I remember after my off we ended up with beer and pizza at my old place haha
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Can't figure out what the gear change problem might be. Can the clutch be affected by a heavy knock on the cover? Has the cover actually been pushed in? Might be worth putting in the Thous section for an answer. Or I suppose it's just as easy to whip the cover off and have a look. I take it the gear lever and linkage is untouched?
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Linkage is good. When I pulled over and checked the clutch i had to adjust it furthest out at the lever. Made it easier but stil clunky as foc. Gonna ring me mate who helped me with exup valve and get the clutch cover off. Have a looksee.
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I think the clutch isn't disengaging properly as in first with clutch pulled in i cant roll the bike backwards. Well just a tiny bit but it's not as easy as it should be. Also if i ride it like this am i likely to fuck up the selector?
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No, you will just wear the clutch plates a bit more when trying to change gear. Without seeing the bike a bit more, I can't say as to exactly what's causing it
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Will a timing/rotor cover from an 01 fzs 1000 fit an 03 ?
http://bit.ly/1hnrYx9
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glad to see your all ok mate and the bike is repairable gets harder to get over as we get older.will keep a look out for parts.
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As far as I am aware, there aren't really many changes across the years with the thou are there? I would be incredible surprised if it didn't fit
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Cheers dead. If someone can tell me for sure I'd buy it.
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Just a point and feel free to call me up on this but so the thread dosent get full of other stuff perhaps it would be an idea to start another thread about repairs and keep this tidy with the off description itself, and some "shit mate" and some if and how it could be avoided and what have you.
Im not a mod its a free forum, dont want to upset anyone -- but what do you think
Oh and by the way your knee looks like a smiley face !
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Sorry to hear about your off , at least you walked away , and a bike can always be repaired/replaced .
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Just a point and feel free to call me up on this but so the thread dosent get full of other stuff perhaps it would be an idea to start another thread about repairs and keep this tidy with the off description itself, and some "shit mate" and some if and how it could be avoided and what have you.
Im not a mod its a free forum, dont want to upset anyone -- but what do you think
Oh and by the way your knee looks like a smiley face !
Ok fazersharp i got no probs with that. I'll post up a bits wanted thread :-)
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i have a new timing cover no fairing though if its a stock indicater i have that foot rest to if damaged
i have a new band for the exhaust with rivits
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Sorry to hear about yer off Pete. That's another reason you can't ride my bike.
In all seriousness you were very lucky the North Circ wasn't rammo with traffic. No breaks to your bones is good and love the smiley face thing you've got on your knee... bet that cheers you up.
Looking at your clutch cover I reckon it's probably been slightly pushed in which would explains the gear change issues.
If we get time on Saturday we might be able to change it there and than for your ride home. But I might have to leave you beavering away in my garage from time to time. Shouldn't take that long to change as long as the gasket is not clagged on.
Rubber Crocodiles to you and Luke :lol
Think I've just twigged what Luke's on about and will tell you on Saturday.
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Sorry to hear about yer off Pete. That's another reason you can't ride my bike.
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Thanks, Kos! Exup now owes me a tenner! :lol
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Sorry to hear about yer off Pete. That's another reason you can't ride my bike.
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Thanks, Kos! Exup now owes me a tenner! :lol
Hows that?
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Sorry to hear about yer off Pete. That's another reason you can't ride my bike.
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Thanks, Kos! Exup now owes me a tenner! :lol
Hows that?
I bet him that that would be one of the first things you'd say.
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I cycle past that burnt patch EVERY day and it always brings a smile to my face (in the nicest possible way of course)!!
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Maybe you'll get a chance to clean it at the same time as fixing it? :D It's starting to look a bit like mine ;)
Unlucky dude, hope your legs gets better quickly and the clutch problems aren't anything serious. If there's anything I can help with drop me a pm, I'm round your area every few days.
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It does look scummy Lawrence i agree. I have been readin the acf50 posts and some folks convinced me.....so I'll fix it up and buy 4 cans....and foccin blitz it..
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i had on off tonight..... :o i was lucky......happily i am fine as i was kitted up(right knee light grazing a little scuff on left hand) and FOC.ME.CO.UK..the bike isnt' THAT bad....piccys to follow
Glad you're okay dude. Thankfully it looks as if the damage was aesthetic and whilst I have sympathy for the bike you were never any oil painting ;-).
Get well soon Pete m8.
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Hehe... AHOY!!! SimonM..... Come in...Ur time is up
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Hehe... AHOY!!! SimonM..... Come in...Ur time is up
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Sorry. I'm not allowed to play that. My mental age is barely 10, never mind 12. I can't believe some stoopid cager made you dump your beauty. Gutted. I hope she is back to pristine soon as. Better to dump than end up embedded in their rear end. Also a relief the road was clear where you came off. As good an off as you can hope for.
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Hey Pete, that's normal. Deefer says so ;)
Hope your bike ran okay on your way home.
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Yup, normal. I am really interested to find out if the new casing cured the clutch issue
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Top foccer day...:-))) bike sooo much better...... Thanks kosmic and mr Deefer.
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Wound the bike up from 7k Onwaaaaaards!!!!! In 1 2 3 gear and no slipping.... Nuetral good to find at 100 mph or idle.. Bike V NEAR to what I would expect but on C stand wheel still movin in 1st clutch full in....
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expect but on C stand wheel still movin in 1st clutch full in....
I wouldn't worry about that.
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Aye, that's nae bother!
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"they all do that sir" :rolleyes ...if you can stop it easy with your foot,nothing to worry about ;)
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It didn't do it b 4. Curious as to why it does it now. Thanks bigsteve for the bars. Still lookin right fairin infill....
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It didn't do it b 4. Curious as to why it does it now....
Probably because your back brake was binding and your chain was rusty where you've done no service work on your bike. :lol
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Agree with that kosmic......give the bike a damn good clean, lube the chain and check wheel alignment.....you dirty foccer ;)
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Agree with that kosmic......give the bike a damn good clean, lube the chain and check wheel alignment.....you dirty foccer ;)
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I should prob put my lengthy off thread on here.
I learned a few lessons that day & doing the off diary helped me get back on it & understand what went wrong.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9486.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9486.0.html)
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Just spoke to kosmic..... He was windin me up.... Bastid...and i bit 100%....brakes and chain fine hehe
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Just spoke to kosmic..... He was windin me up.... Bastid...and i bit 100%....brakes and chain fine hehe
Between my Peugeot, and your off, they're going to tease us mercilessly come Sunday! :lol :lol
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Iam not winding you up exup........clean the foccing thing....... :eek
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When its all lookin good repair wise i gonna go see nuge with kosmic and get it valeted and acf50'd.
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Dunno lol U said you were geared up. Just looked bad at 1st view .........
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Hey Midden, Exup......all the gear.....no idea! :b
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:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin......nice one noggy......you met exup then :lol
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She said get me a onesie so thats what i bought her, silver of course.
Then she said whats this bit of rope.
Bite on it & shurrup & bend over bitch!!!!
Then i woke up & got a hiding for only [size=78%]making myself a cup o tea even though she was still sleeping at the time i made it![/size] :'(
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Wow.... I just insulted u all and got me post count up.... foccin luv this site hehe
I think what you mean is that when you talk about bikes you get your insults count topped up. :b
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Is that wot ur mrs say when ur bent over an she whackin ur ballsack? Lol
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"I'm da man"
Is that wot ur mrs say when ur bent over an she whackin ur ballsack? Lol
No i go to your missus for that treatment......that's why I'm so fat.....every time i visit she feeds me a biscuit :b :b :b
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