Post by: wickedmonkey on 16 December 2013, 01:33:55 pm
I spent quite a while on forums and watching Youtube videos about fitting the grips and then I spent some time figuring out how I wanted them orientated and where to run the wires. If you use superglue as Oxford recommend, then you want to get the grips in the right position first time and rather quickly (in a few seconds)!
Getting the old grips off was a doddle. I used a screw driver inserted from the bar end of the handlebars to loosen the grips from the existing glue. The left came off in tact. I had to cut the right off as it moved with the throttle slider when I was trying to twist it off. Whatever glue had been used previously came off cleanly and no cleanup or sanding of the handlebars was required.
I spent a while dry-fitting and experimenting with the throttle-side grip which slid on with little effort. The lefthand grip would not go on. The diameter looked too damn small so I gave up after an hour of trying and tried again the next morning. I'm sure I'd read somewhere about heating the grips up making them expand which allows them to slide on easier, so I wired them up and turned them on 100% for 10 minutes. The lefthand grip slid on hot fairly easily with a little help from some WD40 to lubricate. Didn't use glue on the left as I cant get the bugger back off (!) but did use superglue on the right as I didn't want it sliding around whilst riding.
Wiring was straight forward, it just takes a little thought and some cable ties. I went straight onto the battery terminals but I'll change that when I get it clear in my head how to wire on an ignition circuit. I wrapped the molex plugs with insulation tape to protect from rain.
Hope that helps someone. I'd highly recommend heating them up before fitting (you need to test them anyway, right?) and some careful thought about positioning. Have used them around town and they feel great -- 100% is too much after a while. Hopefully they'll cure my numb fingertips!
David.
Post by: dBfazer600 on 16 December 2013, 01:42:44 pm
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Nice having warm fingers on a cold day just watch your mates at lights they tend to get a little snatch happy for my grips and we can not move when they are taking the piss
Daz
Post by: darrsi on 16 December 2013, 01:46:55 pm
I have them switched on probably 70% of the year, they do make a massive difference in the cold and wet weather. :)
Post by: Buzz on 16 December 2013, 01:47:57 pm
Leave the earth as it is and use this to piggy back into ignition. 2 min job.
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+1 for this, it's exactly what I did to add my 12V satnav
Post by: dcurzon on 16 December 2013, 06:40:36 pm
Leave the earth as it is and use this to piggy back into ignition. 2 min job.
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Nice having warm fingers on a cold day just watch your mates at lights they tend to get a little snatch happy for my grips and we can not move when they are taking the piss
Daz
I'm trying to figure out how this would give you live only when ignition is on... Can someone enlighten me?
Post by: dBfazer600 on 16 December 2013, 09:48:16 pm
Leave the earth as it is and use this to piggy back into ignition. 2 min job.
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Nice having warm fingers on a cold day just watch your mates at lights they tend to get a little snatch happy for my grips and we can not move when they are taking the piss
Daz
I'm trying to figure out how this would give you live only when ignition is on... Can someone enlighten me?
The ignition will not allow power from the battery until the bikes key is on. Only then can you use the start button. Its also part of the battery recharge system (if I remember correctly)
Daz
Post by: dBfazer600 on 16 December 2013, 09:55:39 pm
The newer oxford grips have built in battery protection, I havn't tried it yet and dont plan too :lol .
Anyway OP :useless
And where did you hide the excess cable from each lead?
I ran my N/S passed the coils using cable ties. This is the only pic I have. I simply followed the cables to and from the handle bars. Mine excess cable and fuse I hid in the N/S panel where the the key to take off the seat is located. I put my sat nav and heated grips on same fuse. I have issues with gripps turning them self off if left idling at lights to long. So may put sat nav on main lights visa versa.
2 seat and tank off now for the petrol pump and filter also the coils 30 Oct 13 |
Post by: dBfazer600 on 16 December 2013, 10:02:34 pm
Post by: Buzz on 17 December 2013, 08:41:46 am
I'm trying to figure out how this would give you live only when ignition is on... Can someone enlighten me?
If you use that tap on something like the headlight fuse then it will only be live when the key is turned. There are 2 slots on a fuse tap, the bottom slot uses the existing fuse which was there already, 20/10A, the top slot is used for the live wire sticking out i.e. the heated grips, probably 5A
Post by: dcurzon on 17 December 2013, 09:37:33 am
gotcha, well described, thanks
I'm trying to figure out how this would give you live only when ignition is on... Can someone enlighten me?
If you use that tap on something like the headlight fuse then it will only be live when the key is turned. There are 2 slots on a fuse tap, the bottom slot uses the existing fuse which was there already, 20/10A, the top slot is used for the live wire sticking out i.e. the heated grips, probably 5A
Post by: wickedmonkey on 17 December 2013, 12:07:10 pm
The newer oxford grips have built in battery protection, I havn't tried it yet and dont plan too :lol .lol! I'm not sure you need pics. You know what grips look like?!
Anyway OP :useless
And where did you hide the excess cable from each lead?
It is the newer grips with battery protection. I'll still move the live though.
The excess is cable-tied by the left fairing at the moment. Not sure what to do with all that cable...
Post by: wickedmonkey on 17 December 2013, 12:15:49 pm
Leave the earth as it is and use this to piggy back into ignition. 2 min job.
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Nice having warm fingers on a cold day just watch your mates at lights they tend to get a little snatch happy for my grips and we can not move when they are taking the piss
Daz
Good idea. Just ordered one now.
Post by: Buzz on 17 December 2013, 02:48:20 pm
Post by: Punkstig on 17 December 2013, 09:38:27 pm
Post by: mtread on 17 December 2013, 10:50:04 pm
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I've gone for Keis' new heated gloves, not cheap but frickin awesome!I've just gone for the Keis heated vest. Also awesome, especially round the kidneys.
Post by: Punkstig on 18 December 2013, 06:40:31 am
I've had the older model vest for 2/3 years, which is just lovely when it comes to January/ February!QuoteI've gone for Keis' new heated gloves, not cheap but frickin awesome!I've just gone for the Keis heated vest. Also awesome, especially round the kidneys.
Post by: wickedmonkey on 19 December 2013, 02:23:19 pm
Leave the earth as it is and use this to piggy back into ignition. 2 min job.
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Nice having warm fingers on a cold day just watch your mates at lights they tend to get a little snatch happy for my grips and we can not move when they are taking the piss
Daz
Got the little fuse piggyback gubbins today. How do I attach the live from the grips to it? Do I have to strip the wires and crimp or is there a more elegant way of doing it?
Post by: Buzz on 19 December 2013, 03:47:16 pm
Post by: wickedmonkey on 20 December 2013, 10:10:24 am
Post by: Buzz on 20 December 2013, 11:33:32 am
Post by: wickedmonkey on 20 December 2013, 03:15:17 pm
The newer oxford grips have built in battery protection, I havn't tried it yet and dont plan too :lol .lol! I'm not sure you need pics. You know what grips look like?!
Anyway OP :useless
And where did you hide the excess cable from each lead?
It is the newer grips with battery protection. I'll still move the live though.
The excess is cable-tied by the left fairing at the moment. Not sure what to do with all that cable...
You win Fizzy -- pictures attached! First is under the seat, the two of the grip positions and lastly the cable by the n/s fork.
Added the piggyback connector so the grips only turn on if the ignition is on. Shame the fuse box doesn't close now... Which circuit is best to piggy back? I've used the ignition circuit but if there is a failure whilst riding, not sure what would happen. Any ideas?
Post by: wickedmonkey on 20 December 2013, 07:47:10 pm
No idea why people fit the grips like that with the wire coming towards you. Just seemed odd why I test fit mine, I decided best to have the wires on top, 135 degrees this way of yours. No chance of interference that way, levers switches etc. Anyway glad you got sorted :thumbs
That was how I was going to fit them originally but after test fitting I chose the way you see in the pics with the wires coming towards the rider. They keep well out of the way like that and look a bit tidier IMO.
Post by: bozboz on 22 December 2013, 11:59:16 am
No idea why people fit the grips like that with the wire coming towards you. Just seemed odd why I test fit mine, I decided best to have the wires on top, 135 degrees this way of yours. No chance of interference that way, levers switches etc. Anyway glad you got sorted :thumbsI'm obviously the black sheep...The clutch side I have facing me, the throttle side I have facing forward and run the cable along the throttle lines....:)
That was how I was going to fit them originally but after test fitting I chose the way you see in the pics with the wires coming towards the rider. They keep well out of the way like that and look a bit tidier IMO.
Post by: wickedmonkey on 22 December 2013, 02:21:24 pm
No idea why people fit the grips like that with the wire coming towards you. Just seemed odd why I test fit mine, I decided best to have the wires on top, 135 degrees this way of yours. No chance of interference that way, levers switches etc. Anyway glad you got sorted :thumbsI'm obviously the black sheep...The clutch side I have facing me, the throttle side I have facing forward and run the cable along the throttle lines.... :)
That was how I was going to fit them originally but after test fitting I chose the way you see in the pics with the wires coming towards the rider. They keep well out of the way like that and look a bit tidier IMO.
I actually thought of doing that as well but changed my mind when I realised it would look a bit mental.
Bah!
Post by: Punkstig on 22 December 2013, 03:59:05 pm
Post by: fazersteve on 26 December 2013, 06:12:25 pm
What fuse is best to use for the live one.
Thanks
Post by: Buzz on 26 December 2013, 06:26:59 pm
Post by: wickedmonkey on 27 December 2013, 09:30:18 am
My -ve goes direct to battery, the fuse tap is using the headlight fuse...but anything which works only when the key is turned will work just as well.
I've gone -ve to battery and +ve to piggyback on ignition circuit (from memory it's the first nearside fuse). Chose that because of the high fuse rating. Not sure which is best though as the grips add potential for an extra 5A of current to be drawn.