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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: darrsi on 28 November 2013, 03:26:37 pm
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I'm pretty damn sure that i need either a new rear shock or a refurbished one.
Question is, are they okay being refurbished, bearing in mind i primarily use it just for commuting to and from work, which isn't far away either?
And if so can anyone recommend where to have it done?
I haven't got time to ponce about modding stuff, or to have the bike off the road for a week as i need it, especially when i'm on call for work at weekends.
One idea was to just buy a 2nd hand one off Flebay then send it off so i can still use the bike while it's being sorted out, then sell my one, as it'll still work out at least half the price of a new one.
Any thoughts appreciated?
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Will a FZS1000 shock fit, if so I have one for sale....PM sent
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Will a FZS1000 shock fit, if so I have one for sale....PM sent
Cheers fella, does anyone know the answer to this?
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Pretty certain they are different.
There's a fella in Scotlandshire, refurbs the original one, reckoned to do a decent job I think. He is on here, only pops in once in a blue moon. Try pm-ing some of the others Scots foccers, they'll have his details. Aegis, neely, loony tunes, I think all those guys will know him...
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I really would prefer something that just bolts on with no fuss to be truthful, that's another reason why the refurb seems to be a good idea as well. :smash
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Why not buy a Hagon, Busters have them for around £250
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Why not buy a Hagon, Busters have them for around £250
I was going to earlier today, then i did a quick search on here and there were a few negative remarks about them and it threw a bit of spanner in the works.
I've never needed to buy a shock before so it's all a bit of a mystery to me to be honest.
As i said earlier it's only really a work bike so i'm wondering if i'm looking too much into things, whereas in reality anything would probably do?
Hagon is £299 from Busters/M&P. (whoever designed their websites needs a serious talking to :rolleyes )
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Hi Darrsi
you could buy a second hand shock and get it rebuilt and just swap so your still mobile, but if your keeping the bike long term I would buy a Nitron http://www.nitron.co.uk/Motorcycles/Yamaha/FZ/fzs600-fazer/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-98-03-ntr-sport-shock-1-way (http://www.nitron.co.uk/Motorcycles/Yamaha/FZ/fzs600-fazer/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-98-03-ntr-sport-shock-1-way) bit more pricey than hagon but they are far better ( had one on my R1) :evil
Mark :)
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Hi Darrsi
you could buy a second hand shock and get it rebuilt and just swap so your still mobile, but if your keeping the bike long term I would buy a Nitron [url]http://www.nitron.co.uk/Motorcycles/Yamaha/FZ/fzs600-fazer/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-98-03-ntr-sport-shock-1-way[/url] ([url]http://www.nitron.co.uk/Motorcycles/Yamaha/FZ/fzs600-fazer/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-98-03-ntr-sport-shock-1-way[/url]) bit more pricey than hagon but they are far better ( had one on my R1) :evil
Mark :)
I did look at that earlier, but i'm finding it a bit hard to justify spending £400 (surely nobody opts for turquoise?) :\
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looks good on the bike, at least people know you've got a good shock on the bike :lol
if you thinking of selling in a year or so go cheapest, if its a long term or keeper get the best you can afford :D
Mark :)
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looks good on the bike, at least people know you've got a good shock on the bike :lol
if you thinking of selling in a year or so go cheapest, if its a long term or keeper get the best you can afford :D
Mark :)
What if...........i got a 2nd hand shock refurbed and also got a Hyperpro spring as well?
If it's a no no just tell me straight, as i'm in unfamiliar territory here?
What is it that people don't like about the original shocks?
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No damping on the original ofter 20000miles
I have a Hagon on with 50000 miles with a stiffer spring than the standard and never had an issue
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I don't think that's going to work out much cheaper than a new one:
S/H shock£25?, spring £80? rebuild £100 ? + postage £250
New one £299?
standard shock is fine but can lose its damping over time/miles etc
also depends on how you ride if its worth getting a shock that's good for fast road /track etc
The older I get the faster I was !!! :lol :lol
Mark :)
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Darrsi, changing the spring would do nothing to the oe shock as it limitations are down to inadequate dampening..
If you buy a second hand one @ £60 ish then £100 for the refurb your into r6 shock territory..
I know you said you use the bike daily but can you not put up with it until the Christmas hols and do a fzs1000 or r6 shock conversion??
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Do you need a new rear shock or a refurbished one ? If you use it only for work, wait till it fails it M.O.T :thumbup
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I think the oem shock is oversprung and underdamped for most riders, it's a budget item and the ride quality suffers as a result. Having said that it's ok for commuting and normal riding, especially if you're quite heavy or take a lot of luggage. I always found it good for varying loads, pillons, luggage etc.
I had an oem shock rebuilt by ABE (All Bike Engineering) in Greenwich. Dealing with them was a bit of a palava tbh, but they made it right in the end and the shock was certainly better than before, with noticeably better damping and less sagging. They polish the shaft (replace if nec at extra cost), replace seals & oil (+ bump stop if nec).
A trackday did show up it's intrinsic limitations though, so I changed it for a R6 shock (Kebab's mod) pretty much straight away, which is much much better and has lots of adjusters to play with :b
My refurbed shock is sitting in a box waiting to be refitting for when I sell the bike so I'm in no hurry to sell it but if you're interested pm me. I'm pretty it sure has less than 1000 miles on it - I can check. It was refurbed earlier this year, May I think.
Still would recommend an aftermarket shock if you can afford it or the R6 or Thou shock mod. I think respringing the oem shock is not worth it tbh, ultimately it's the budget nature of the whole unit that let's it down when the bike's pushed.
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I'm not really one for tinkering and modding stuff for fun, it's just a work horse for me so i just wanna bolt on and go.
I'm slightly warming to the Nitron one that Mark suggested in his link, and it tells you to put the riders weight in as they are custom made.
D'ya think i should add another 1 stone because of my topbox, clothing, etc?
Gonna see if anyone's got anything for sale as well on the forum, although it doesn't look like it at the moment.
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Yeah, definitely include the weight of your gear. Stand on the scales with all of it on. If somebody catches you, you'll have some explaining to do but still :lol And add any extra stuff you have on the bike, topbox etc and consider whether you want the spring stronger to cope with a pillion.
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I wouldn't say the shocks are "custom made", there just sprung within your weight range..
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Yeah, definitely include the weight of your gear. Stand on the scales with all of it on. If somebody catches you, you'll have some explaining to do but still :lol And add any extra stuff you have on the bike, topbox etc and consider whether you want the spring stronger to cope with a pillion.
Just PM'd you mate.
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I wouldn't say the shocks are "custom made", there just sprung within your weight range..
Yeah, i understand that.
How does it work if you take the occasional pillion every once in a blue moon then, is that just a case of adjusting things, how do you get the happy medium for instance when ordering a new one?
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I've got a Hagon shock. Far better than the original and no sign of it weakening. Not an Ohlin, but then again, not Ohlin prices
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If you only take a pillion occasionally I'd just spring it to your solo weight. In which case, the main thing to do would be increase preload, some of the aftermarket shocks with castle nut adjusters are an arse to adjust, the oem style is often easier unless you drop more notes on a remote hydraulic adjuster. My Wilbers was a bastard to adjust but it differs from one make to another.
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I wouldn't say the shocks are "custom made", there just sprung within your weight range..
Yeah, i understand that.
How does it work if you take the occasional pillion every once in a blue moon then, is that just a case of adjusting things, how do you get the happy medium for instance when ordering a new one?
As always with suspension its a compromise, but you would just increase your preload to correct the sag and add a couple of clicks compression dampening when carrying a pillion..
Fuzzy is right about them castle nuts, my pal has a gixxer thou with them and its a PITA
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Just to let you know i'm gonna go with Fuzzy's offer of his refurbed shock, my bike's on 42k now and seeing as i doubt it's ever been touched before i bought it then it's definitely gonna be a vast improvement anyway!
Cheers for the input though, it's been a quick learning curve, and much appreciated. ;)