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Title: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 November 2013, 07:49:38 pm
"Twice as much torque as a Triumph Street triple"
 
"..at 2500 rpm...as much torque as 990 Super duke R...could muster at peak..."
 
"...a sophisticated psychopath, able to perform acts of astonishing ferocity..."
 
"...a true 1:1 ratio between twistgrip and throttle butterflies...was just impossible..."
 
"Untamed, this engine is literally too powerful for it's own good."
 
"In sport mode with digital assistance off, it will wheelie - big, angry, fast wheelies - off throttle alone in third gear..."
 
(all quotes from Bike Magazine)
 
This bike is so ugly, I want one now! Where do I sign?!!....... :rollin
 
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYo6qTlhCCGRk2F0RefFMUB_VSDF7Eb-2WcIOIX0BD63oh_gt3)
 
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: snapper on 09 November 2013, 08:13:33 pm
I want one now! Where do I sign?!!....... (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rollin.gif)     your cheque book over and over ,,, and over again ! :lol
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: noggythenog on 09 November 2013, 08:13:53 pm
How much on PCP???
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 November 2013, 08:25:43 pm
177bhp, 180mph.......180?! On an upright, high-barred, adventure lookalike? How the hell did they find that out?! Guy must have had arms like Schwarzenegger just to hang on!
Yes, you can have my chequebook, I'll sign em all - just let me enjoy this thing for a year - hell, a summer - before you cart me off to jail/nuthouse/morgue!  :evil :nana :2guns :lol :rollin :b :evil :nana :2guns :lol :rollin :b :evil :nana :2guns :lol :rollin :b :evil :nana :2guns :lol :rollin :b
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 November 2013, 08:27:35 pm
Oh well, that's it then - this foccer has ORANGE FORK SEALS!! I'm gonna rob a bank.....
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: snapper on 09 November 2013, 08:28:42 pm
"hell, a summer "  what a whole week ! mind you after that long youll probably have a weak hole !
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: stevierst on 09 November 2013, 08:48:38 pm
You can stick the mt09, I want one of these!! No, I NEED one of these!

For sale, 2 children, house trained, come complete with their mother. :D;D
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: slimwilly on 10 November 2013, 06:54:56 am
If it is the one i saw,then it is alot of steel,a bit like a school metalwork project,crap finish,,not like the alloy we are used to.|Did look a bit cheap.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 10 November 2013, 09:16:17 am
Yamaha FZ1 wet weight - 220kg
KTM 1290 SD R wet weight - 202kg
FZ1 power output - 150bhp
KTM 1290 power output - 177bhp
 
Who cares if it's got a steel frame?! My gen1 thou has a steel frame and it's still a great bike.
Quality of the KTM? I don't know, but I'm not likely to last very long if I had one anyway!  :lol
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: jon on 10 November 2013, 10:19:27 am
I need one of those
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: stevierst on 10 November 2013, 10:56:17 am
It wheelies off the throttle in third!! Yes third!!! Gotta get one!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: mr self destruct on 10 November 2013, 12:20:43 pm
I'd be at the front of the queue if I had £14k spare, that's gorgeous!  :eek
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: snapper on 10 November 2013, 01:48:33 pm
not sure I could live with one to be honest , but by god I'd loveto have a go !
 
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 10 November 2013, 05:39:54 pm
Sounds like it's more a question of "surviving" rather than "living with". Take a good, long look at your license if you buy one, cos you ain't gonna have that for much longer  :lol
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: steeeve66 on 10 November 2013, 07:45:45 pm
I've been invited for a test ride when they arrive in December - if I survive the experience I'll do a write up. My prediction tho is that I'll stick with the 990 I have already. Probably...

S
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: noggythenog on 10 November 2013, 07:55:15 pm
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve!!!!, look forward to the right up buddy,


Out of interest...from experience.....how reliable are ktm road bikes???,based on the 990 would you keep one long term, say 10 years with just normal wear & tear???


& what sort of stuff can you annihilate with the 990 please?


Cheers


Fras
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Doddsie on 10 November 2013, 08:13:26 pm
KTM 1290 Super Duke R - The Beast Escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMboFftXW-Q#ws)




I like it!!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: fireblake on 11 November 2013, 03:05:10 pm
First thing, I'll get out my old platform boots  that I wore when a Rubettes fan. Then  go online and check out Wonga.com. Damn my stumpy legs and empty bank account.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 11 November 2013, 06:05:18 pm
I have a cunning plan.....  :lol
 
Mine paid off in 1 1/2 years (maybe sooner), then there should be some nice 2nd hand ones about, perfect for PCP! Which means I can still follow thro with my plans for next year - s'all good dawg!  :)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: CRH on 11 November 2013, 06:09:37 pm
I have a cunning plan.....  :lol
 
Mine paid off in 1 1/2 years (maybe sooner), then there should be some nice 2nd hand ones about, perfect for PCP! Which means I can still follow thro with my plans for next year - s'all good dawg!  :)
...time to sort out some good life insurance then nick? :rolleyes .......
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: mr self destruct on 11 November 2013, 06:25:50 pm
KTM 1290 Super Duke R - The Beast Escape ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMboFftXW-Q#ws[/url])




I like it!!


1.10 in, how the fuck does he do that?!  :eek
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Doddsie on 11 November 2013, 06:47:05 pm
It took me a few goes to get it right!!! ;)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: steeeve66 on 12 November 2013, 08:07:26 am
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve!!!!, look forward to the right up buddy,


Out of interest...from experience.....how reliable are ktm road bikes???,based on the 990 would you keep one long term, say 10 years with just normal wear & tear???


& what sort of stuff can you annihilate with the 990 please?


Cheers


Fras

I've had mine from new since '07 - the only fault has been a failed water pump. Generally reliability is pretty good with, if the Superduke.net forum is anything to go by, few problems. But they are idiosyncratic buggers - changing the oil requires removing two drain plugs, two filters and cleaning two screens. Changing the coolant requires lifting the front of the bike 50cms - harder to do than you might imagine. Battery access appears to have been conceived by someone convinced you never needed to get to it...
It might say a lot pointing out that when I leave the country to go to France, Holland or Spain I'll always take the Fazer, not the SD.
As for annihilating - ALL the performance is under 80 odd mph; to 60 or 70 and between 20 and 70 I'd say almost nothing can touch it, but in general the Fazer is quicker. And more comfortable - the SD is a bike you perch very much 'on top' of, with very little wind protection, none actually. It feels like you're sitting on a billiard ball, it turns so quickly but leaves you just as exposed to the elements.
No electric rider aids, nothing to make you feels safe - just a sophisticated but violent V Twin strapped in to a bicycle frame with two thumping great Brembo brakes on huge disks mounted on forks that are near vertical.

Fantastic.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Aegis Bearing Mel on 12 November 2013, 02:36:02 pm
RUN!
RUN LIKE THE WIND!!
:rollin

Long term Foccers will remember I loved my SuperDuke, but it was a piece of shite.
Owned it for two and a bit years, had four oil pressure switches, a new battery, a COMPLETE wiring harness including reggy/rec as it corroded off, three fork seals, a fuel pump and a letter from KTM demanding that I wash and dry the brakes after every wet ride.
I live in Glasgow ffs!!

Saying that, the new one looks AMAZING!!
Actually thought about it but then decided no.
Saying that, New Zealand don't put salt on the roads, so mibbes when I move over there...
:D
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: bigralphie on 12 November 2013, 04:07:06 pm
Meh ,its slow and underpowered  :evil
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hamos on 15 November 2013, 07:52:55 pm
I may wait for the 1490 superduke!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: moffmeister on 16 November 2013, 07:43:44 pm
Quote
Long term Foccers will remember I loved my SuperDuke


Spring Meet attendees a dew years ago will concur, "So did I!"


I would have bought it only Andy was the previous owner....


This new one has me salivating :'(  Ah wannnnt waaannn!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: lew600fazer on 17 November 2013, 12:19:01 am
Jeremy McWilliams riding Ascari with KTM 1290 Super Duke R track bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgaVzBrGNuM#ws)
Hopefully the link is here , Jeremy McWilliams having fun, .
Lew
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: moffmeister on 17 November 2013, 06:41:58 pm
Ah wannnnt waaannn!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hamos on 18 November 2013, 04:28:53 pm
I'll have one please.  They are some lean angles her is getting there!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 18 November 2013, 04:34:22 pm
Oi! This is my thread! It's mine! Get in the queue!
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: caretaker on 18 November 2013, 04:47:11 pm
the only orange bike i'll ever need.


(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/biblebasher_photo/100_2815_zpsd5573ebf.jpg) (http://s909.photobucket.com/user/biblebasher_photo/media/100_2815_zpsd5573ebf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: mickvp on 18 November 2013, 05:37:15 pm
^^ looks like arrochar car park that does. at top of loch lomond? (nice bike BTW - shame its a kwacker :lol)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: caretaker on 18 November 2013, 05:56:45 pm
well spotted! at the start of my 1500 mile ride round scotland in 3 days trip. still got my fazer though.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 22 November 2013, 07:01:10 am
I'd like to see these cats on a KTM 1290!
 
INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! Police chase bikes, incredible drifting HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqcI2g2bbkc#ws)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: pitternator on 24 November 2013, 08:16:22 am
its the most exciting bike IMO for many many years ....BUT
 
1. its a very big twin, so to make it rideable its incredibly loaded with electronics . Initial reports say its too castrated by them.  :'(
 
2. dont start thinking double the torque of a speedy at low revs means much , as its what happens at over 3000 rpm which counts.That is marketing speak, and its been proven to be a false claim.It will have more torque simply because of its extra capacity.Side by side tests will be needed to see just how all this power can be put down OTR. Dont forget blades have been best selling sportbikes for years  simply cos they can !..speedys are great bikes OTR for same reason. But 50 bhp more is staggering !
 
3. you probably will have to be a very skilled rider to actually use that performance without killing yerself !   :eek
 
4. It will break down !  :lol
 
5. I still love it ! :)
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 24 November 2013, 08:46:06 am
its the most exciting bike IMO for many many years ....BUT
 
1. its a very big twin, so to make it rideable its incredibly loaded with electronics . Initial reports say its too castrated by them.  :'(
 
2. dont start thinking double the torque of a speedy at low revs means much , as its what happens at over 3000 rpm which counts.That is marketing speak, and its been proven to be a false claim.It will have more torque simply because of its extra capacity.Side by side tests will be needed to see just how all this power can be put down OTR. Dont forget blades have been best selling sportbikes for years  simply cos they can !..speedys are great bikes OTR for same reason. But 50 bhp more is staggering !
 
3. you probably will have to be a very skilled rider to actually use that performance without killing yerself !   :eek
 
4. It will break down !  :lol
 
5. I still love it ! :)

BUT...
 
1. Most of the electronic gizmos can be switched off.
 
2. Big V-twins are usually very torquey - but coupled with this bikes light weight, it's going to seem pretty amazing anyway.
 
3. I'll die with a big grin on my face!  :lol
 
4. Probably not before 3. above!  :lol :lol
 
5. Me too!  :)
 
 
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: pitternator on 26 November 2013, 07:43:43 am
Sat on it at show yesterday and its a great riding position. It is small though , so I looked a bit like donkey kong on it !   :lol
 
would love a ride all the same .I do love big twins !
shame I couldnt see a full on orange one like the vid, the show bikes were a lot blacker.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: fireblake on 28 November 2013, 02:28:19 pm
Sat on it at show yesterday and its a great riding position. It is small though , so I looked a bit like donkey kong on it !   :lol
 
would love a ride all the same .I do love big twins !
shame I couldnt see a full on orange one like the vid, the show bikes were a lot blacker.
When you say small, is that just the Seat/Tank/Bars small or the Seat/Ground small? Just asking as I'm vertically challenged?


Mickey
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hamos on 28 November 2013, 03:02:41 pm
I sat on it at the show too.  It was comfortable and you feel as though you are right over the front wheel.  Still pretty much like any other naked in terms of seating position.
I'll get a test ride as soon as the weather improves.  At £14000 it could be the best bike ever, that is still a lot of money to find.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: fireblake on 28 November 2013, 03:23:12 pm
I'll be getting one as soon as they get to about £3000. A long wait methinks?


Mickey
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: pitternator on 30 November 2013, 07:53:14 am
Its physically small, as compared to an adventure bike. I cant see too many issues with seat height unlike say an 1190 adventure.It will feel fast as you are perched rightover the front wheel, but it is a very nice riding position, very like my 1050 speedy2.
 
really love it , but its a very narrow market surely ...??? how many folk have 14K literally for a bonkers toy?...or does this merely increase its desirability and folk lining up for a pcp !
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: fireblake on 30 November 2013, 09:02:33 am
I would buy one now but the wife is keeping a firm grip on my baubles.
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 November 2013, 12:21:47 pm
I could buy 1/10 of one now.......hmmmmm, which tenth to have?  :rolleyes
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: steeeve66 on 30 November 2013, 02:02:12 pm
I could buy 1/10 of one now.......hmmmmm, which tenth to have?  :rolleyes

I could buy another 1/10 as well, hey, if we all club together we could buy one and then, collectively, tell Exup he's not allowed to have a go on it?  :lol
Title: Re: KTM 1290 Super Duke R
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 November 2013, 03:38:49 pm
I'd be up for that JUST so we could tell Exup he can't have a go  :lol