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General => General => Topic started by: beach700 on 07 November 2013, 08:45:59 pm
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Hello everyone!
I just bought my first bike, a 1986 Fazer.
First, I wanted to say hello.
Second, I am not sure what section my bike would fall into... as I don't see it listed in the forums subsections.
Questions if I may pick your brain:
For the USA: Where do you prefer to buy the parts?
Any set of sites in specific?
This is my first bike, so I just don't have the experience.
Thank you!
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Cor, one of the little baby v-max copies? Can we see?
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Hey welcome to foc-u
Cant say we've got anyone here with that bike, trouble is that models in the us are often called different names so what is called a fazer in us may not be one in the uk, ie with cars VW Rabbit in us, VW golf in Uk.
I think ive seen picturesof something called a fazer which fits jons description- like a mini v max
A quick google search also seems to throw up this pic of the FZ700.
If you look deeper though the pic is on a manual & the manual also states for the fazer, to top it off the website is american so ive pasted in thelink for you, maybe get you closer to technical matters.good luck!
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Bingo!......found it
It is the FZX700 Fazer
Here's a fetching pic........you got any pics like this yet????? :b
And some shpeel-
The FZX 700 Yamaha ‘Fazer’ was made in 700cc purely for the USA market for only two years, due to Harley Davidson’s lawyers asking for a limit on the importing of Japanese motorcycles of 750ccc and over. With 68 BHP from it’s five valve per cylinder engine, it gave more than enough performance to embarrass Harley Davidson’s of any capacity of that time! Handled properly as well! The 750cc version was and is popular in Europe, with a considerable power increase gave sports bike performance in a naked cruiser package. A peach of an engine, with low centre of gravity, one of Yamaha’s best efforts of the 1980’s!
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Hows about this then? http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/yamaha_fzx_700_fazer_1986.php (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/yamaha_fzx_700_fazer_1986.php)
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Wow, looks sweet as a nut!
Noggy you bastid. That second pic is the tits (in more ways than one!) :lol :lol
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That tank and air intake look very like the new mt09...
Chris
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Wow guys!!
AWESOME welcome!
Thank you very much!!!
I had read that yes, as noggy said, it was only in 86 and 87 in the USA.
Didn't know that Harley started crying... yet it doesn't surprise me. :b
Anyway, I had been wanting a bike for around two years.
Between excuses and more excuses... never did anything.
Until three-four months ago, where I bought a helmet, nice motorcycle jacket, and started looking.
I fell in love with the R1... yet I know I am going to wrap my self up around a pole on that thing.
It took a LOT to swallow my pride, and not get the R1 as my first bike.
Plus side is, I found this very nice bike for 1,000 USD (621.58 gpb? as per google).
Guy is moving away and was selling everything.
I am stoked!!!!!
Ok, without further adieu (ado?)... the pics!!
:D
Here is a pic of here in front of the guy's house (I bought it this past Monday!)
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And on the back terrace of my house (please excuse the mess)
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and
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Now, she ain't perfect, yet I think for the price, it's just right.
I would like to get her up-to-speed little by little.
I am a Shade Tree Mechanic, and would love to do everything that I can myself.
Already ordered oil filter, NGK spark plugs, paper air filter, brake pads... and I think that's it.
Oh yeah, and the Service Manual... that will help a ton.
She has various things that need fixing.
The Yellow paint is three shades of yellow, and all of them look bad.
The black parts also look bad.
Polishing the chrome is on the To Do list.
Speedometer works fine ("supposedly" 20,441 miles)... yet tachometer doesn't work.
This weekend I will dive into her to see if the tach is because of a connection, or the guy actually needs opening up and fixing.
The fuel pump is some sort of Frankestinian thing... with a pressure regulator right after it (will snap pics tomorrow with daylight).
I want to get the original fuel pump (under the tank?) working again.
The seller was very honest... he told me she needed TLC, and pointed out all the things wrong he knew she had (it wasn't his primary mode of transportation).
For example, he said the fuel reserve, he once tried to fix it, and as he was clamping down on the part, it broke/cracked... so he just said "screw it" and bypassed it (or blocked it?).
All signal lights work... which is good!
High beams don't work... front brake switch for brake light is out.
Yet brake light works with foot brake (rear brake, is it called?).
One thing I looove:
I went to the gas station... poured a little bit of "fuel system cleaner" thingy liquid, and the bike filled up with $4.48 (2.78 gbp?) of PREMIUM gas!
I know it doesn't require Premium... yet... it's new!! I couldn't resist!
(I know I know... it's pissing money away... premium won't do jack if the engine doesn't need it)
That, to me, is AWESOME!
I fill up my pickup with around $80 USD (49.73 gbp).
So just the thought of the money savings... w000t!!
I will post up more info ASAP.
Again, thanks for the AWESOME welcome guys!
Very much appreciated!
I will see if I snap some nice pics of her somewhere in the island.
Can't wait to ride again!
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Best thing bout that red bike is its awesome rack :b
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I know fuel is cheaper over there but how did you fill a 20 litre tank for $4.48? Thats about 14p a litre. To spend £50 filling up your pick up it would have to have a 355 litre tank!! :eek
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I know fuel is cheaper over there but how did you fill a 20 litre tank for $4.48? Thats about 14p a litre. To spend £50 filling up your pick up it would have to have a 355 litre tank!! :eek
Assuming it's a 20L tank, and that it was bone dry... but yep, good point Doddsie! Fess up, beach! :lol
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Hey yah!
You know... I read your post, and I was like "WTF... I gave a $5.00 bill... saw $4.48 on the pump... got 52 cents back... wtf?"
And then it clicked.
I think where the mess up is.
I did pump $4.48 into the tank... yet in Puerto Rico we sell fuel by the Liter.
Yeah... something messed up.
We have part of the Imperial system... part of metric.
Roads are km, and speed limits are in mph.
We watch the price of fuel $/gallon, yet pay for $/Liter at the pump.
Don't ask man... I was just born here. :)
Anyway, I did pump $4.48 into it... and being my first bike, and my first fill-up ever, I trully don't know if the tank was empty, mid-way, or what.
I pumped until the fuel was to the top.
As to the pick-up, it has a 35 gallon tank (132.489 Liter).
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Hello,where is Puerto rico hombre?
Nice bike man !!
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Right, thats it, forget a rideout in Wales next year....
Lets all go to Porto rico!!!!! :sun :sun :sun
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132 ltr tank on a pick up :eek that would cost me £174 in English Diesel :eek
Thought my 90 ltr tank was big enough :lol
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Wow love the bike. I can't believe this thread discovered a whole new type of Fazer!
Andy
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funny enough beach I recently went horse riding in one of your rainforests, in april, they do quad biking as well. very nice country,.
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noggy... LoL!
If you guys come, I will happily help out with whatever you need!
I have to go to your side of the world!!
Never been out of the Americas!
locksmith... yeah, 132 ltr tank... insane.
Yet I looove that pickup.
That's my old girl... never gives me trouble.
Plus she sounds awesome (Cummins 6cyl inline... all mechanical engine!)
Andybesy, the forums you guys have here are awesome!
I feel right at home!
Haven't posted more because last week at work was insanity x3.
Taylor,
You don't say man?!
Awesome!!
Next time anybody else comes along, please contact me or send them my way!
There are some awesome stuff to do!
About 3-4 weeks ago I re-visited one of our "bio-luminescent bays".
There are these microscopic lifeforms (don't know what they are) in the water.
When agitated, they flouresce (spelling?) a blue-ish hue (a la Avatar).
It's unreal... everything glows... the kayaks, the water breaking in front of them...
Everything glows when you "fall" into the water (fall, because you're not supposed to jump in).
Anyway, update on the bike!
I went riding early Sunday... it WAS AWESOME!!
Remember this is my first bike... so I'm taking it easy.
And early Sunday, not that many people on the roads.
Yet it was AWESOME!!
The feeling of the open road... and the connection with everything around you.
The air speeding around you... road underneath... scenary whisling by quickly.
Amazing.
I went around town, and just cruised up and down.
The most I did was a winding beach road up in the north of the island... did a short trip there.
Turned around, snapped one pic (beach looks awesome, my "artsy" motorcycle in the foreground didn't come out at all).
Then I headed back.
I was going to ask you guys:
Where should I post new threads about the bike?
Which section would she fall into?
Or should I post in General?
Thing is, I did some maintenance on her, and I have a couple of questions.
I changed the oil and filter... and the filter center bolt, one of its oil-flow holes "overlapped" the filter itself.
So I am thinking that oil will be by-passing the filter, as it will be the path of least resistance.
Not sure if it should be that way.
I replaced the spark plugs with new NGK ones (old ones looked good though!).
Drained the cooling system... refilled... etc etc
Thanks for everything guys!
Awesome to be here!!
=)
--AJ
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I was on the independence, doing a transatlantic, its docked there today on its way back, if we go next year will meet up for a drink in s juan, also give the bike a blast. ;)
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Hey everyone!
Sunday ride!
:D
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Looks like a lovely day!
windy and raining here... :'(
Chris
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Ahh man... best wishes for nice weather for you guys!
Hey, side question:
My clutch today started "going out".
I realized it wasn't depressing fully because it was hard to shift gears... and when coming to a complete stop, the bike "pushed" forward.
So I went home... dis-assembled the engine-side clutch piston... and all was good.
I then started pumping the clutch lever to "bleed out" all the brake fluid... and nothing was coming out!
So I think the o-rings are busted.
Can I use regular rubber o-rings to fix it?
Thanks!
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Ahh man... best wishes for nice weather for you guys!
Hey, side question:
My clutch today started "going out".
I realized it wasn't depressing fully because it was hard to shift gears... and when coming to a complete stop, the bike "pushed" forward.
So I went home... dis-assembled the engine-side clutch piston... and all was good.
I then started pumping the clutch lever to "bleed out" all the brake fluid... and nothing was coming out!
So I think the o-rings are busted.
Can I use regular rubber o-rings to fix it?
Thanks!
You have a hydraulic clutch?
I'm no expert, but common sense would suggest you should be able to use brake hose o rings without trouble.
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nice bike. I have one myself. The hydraulic clutch should just use the regular brake hose o-rings, as was mentioned. There seems to be quite a bit of variation in how these run, but the one I have is very fast for a 28 year old bike. It will easily hit 150mph, and has almost 100 hp with minimal tuning. A couple of things that are weird about it though… On mine, I have a Kerker pipe, which means I have to remove the header to change the oil. Also, one of the spark plugs is a huge pain to change. So, I would recommend putting plugs in that will last a long time. The other three aren't bad, but the second plug in from the right side of the bike is a nightmare, iirc. As long as you take care of it, that bike should easily last 100,000 miles.
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A friend of mine had one, think hers was a 750cc it was imported from France, the odd thing about it was it didn't have an engine number just the code letters and nothing had been stamped after that, it was unmarked so hadn't been ground off or anything? I wondered if it had a new engine fitted but even then you would have thought it would be stamped.
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I had a UK FZX750 98bhp (they were official in the UK for one year before being dropped due to poor sales).... Evil handling little bastards, never really knew what was going on underneath me and I sold it to my uncle and it spat him off....Twice! :rollin :rollin :rollin
If the clutch is fading then like all late 80s/early 90s yams the clutch slave cylinder will need either rebuilding or replacing plus it'll be leaking brake fluid onto your chain which wont do it much good at all..... Really really common fault and the part is the same as the FJ1200/1100 & FZ700/750. Unless you are really unlucky you should be able to get away with just fitting a seal kit to the slave.
Due to falling sales in the late 80's nd the failed merger & bail out program, Harley Davidson a forced the US government to impose an excessively heavy import duty on all Japanese motorcycles 750cc and above, The Japanese responded by reducing the bore on it popular models for the US market to 700cc. When Harley realised what the Japanese were doing they got the Government to amend the bill to also limit the power output of imported Japanese bikes. Hence we got the 98BHP FZX750 and the US got the 60ish BHP Fazer 700, We got the VFR750 and the US got the 700 Interceptor.... etc etc
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It was based on http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/fz-750.jpg (http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/fz-750.jpg)
These were a sensation when released very radical and technical at the time. Steep inclined cylinders giving a straight through downdraught (fore runner to ram air) induction effect, 5 valves per cylinder to reduce reciprocating mass of the valve gear for higher revving, spin off was 27,000 mile valves clearance checks, box section frame, nose firing, a genuine 150mph and vented discs all very trick. It was the bike to have and beat in 85, it got trounced by the GSX-R750 in 86!
Yam came back with the FZR750 Genesis later in 86 and they swapped back and forth until 89 when most manufactures dropped 750s. Yam upped the cc to 989 and introduced the FZR1000 Genesis in 87 in answer to GSX-R1100 of 86 which blow away every open class prody racer and big sports bike in 86. The thou was a a real tool, but couldn't match the GSX-R for grunt so they introduced the EXUP in 89 with increase to 1002cc and an EXUP valve, making the bike on more par with the GSX-R in grunt. Suzuki moved on to GSX-R1100K basically a sling shot 1100 a real brute. The engine was unbelievable at the time but unlike the 750 the handling was very iffy just too much power and overwhelmed the chassis and more importantly the tyres. It killed Phil Mellor at the 89 TT and a few owners.
Sorry gone off on one a little :rolleyes :D
The 5 valvers or Genesis engines as they became known where excellent engines. The Yanks back in 85 weren't all that keen on race reps so they gave birth to the street rep i.e. the "Fazer" and as Deffer says the reduced the cc to get around the law, the rest is history!
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:) GREAT THREAD GUYS and welcome beach 700 to this great forum which gives such informative help as you can tell by the answers so far ,ive not long sold my fzx 750 it was my first fazer :D before moving onto the thou ,but my on had a few mods not done by me but even in its standard for they sure are a real head turner not many of them here in Ireland and i never saw anything like 150 mph on it jeez :eek like said above tyres and handling wouldnt match that ,its a cruiser ,enjoy it mate https://youtu.be/Mi7bgjI2WfIpower (https://youtu.be/Mi7bgjI2WfIpower),.............................