Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 03:34:39 pm
Not a professionals only thread, all comers welcome. If you got a shot you're particularly proud of on your last biking tour, or one you just like a lot, or maybe you went hill walking or whatever. Your own work only please, and no bikes in shot! Those piccies go on the touring threads.
Also for discussion of the art, the tools, the techniques.
I've posted quite a few shots here and there, so excuse me if I start with just a couple more; Blencathra at sunrise:
Post by: mickvp on 27 October 2013, 03:37:06 pm
Nice shots :thumbsup:
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 03:39:53 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 27 October 2013, 04:48:52 pm
Post by: mickvp on 27 October 2013, 04:50:03 pm
Thanks Mick, but what's HDR? :rolleyes
HDR is "High Dynamic Range" Nick. basically its a method of either taking 4-5 pictures on a tripod of the same scene, but at different f-stops, and then layering them together to increase the amount of the photo that is exposed properly (so you could have gotten both the grass and the sky exposed properly together, rather than just one or the other as you would have found with a single image), or taking one photo like yours and running it through specialist hdr software.
HDR does create some weird effects through its process though, and its not for everyone, but some like it (I do as long as its not too overdone).
See here (linky) to see what I mean. (http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/inspiration/20-hdr-before-and-after-photographs-youll-love/)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 06:04:35 pm
Post by: apage16 on 27 October 2013, 06:07:21 pm
Sadly in the cage this time round.
Post by: unfazed on 27 October 2013, 06:18:23 pm
We felt like explorers no other tracks but ours :lol
Post by: slimwilly on 27 October 2013, 06:27:25 pm
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/theFurkapass_zpse019f450.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/theFurkapass_zpse019f450.jpg.html)
Post by: slimwilly on 27 October 2013, 06:30:38 pm
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/photsinthesnow_zps444b9a61.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/photsinthesnow_zps444b9a61.jpg.html)
Post by: red98 on 27 October 2013, 06:44:46 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 06:50:11 pm
Post by: evesdad on 27 October 2013, 07:11:24 pm
The view down my street
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 27 October 2013, 09:02:05 pm
Beinn a'Chochuill
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8501971856_9dffec8cde_c.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 10:12:30 pm
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 27 October 2013, 10:20:44 pm
Bought a Panasonic G1 in 2010 with a 14-45 kit lens. Dumped the kit lens for a Panasonic 12-35f2.8 quality optic. Itching to upgrade the camera to a Panasonic GH3. G1 was the first generation micro 4/3rds. The GH3 should be streets ahead and would get the best from the sweet wee lens I've got.
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 27 October 2013, 10:24:15 pm
Have been thinking of getting a filter holder to take my Lee grads, but then I waste so much time on the hills taking shots that I think maybe grads will slow me down even more.
Nice thing about winter is that the snow often reduces the contrast.
Post by: fazersharp on 27 October 2013, 10:36:44 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 10:52:24 pm
Can't decide on use of filters and how far to go with the photoshop stuff. Although it can produce some good results, it's not really "telling it like it is", is it? Oh, I know all those greens and greys can get a bit boring, but it's about catching the natural light - and that might mean being there at silly times of the day. I suppose if it's used subtley it's ok, and I guess with the professionals' work it might even be hard to tell. Hmmm, don't know, jury's out for me. I saw some work in a shop in Keswick, guy has some fantastic work in his repertoire, but there were a few where I thought he'd gone too far - looked like they'd been touched up with paint; colours were just too extreme and I thought I could even identify some of the ones he'd used - cadmium yellow, raw sienna etc. Others were brilliant tho.
All just theory for me tho, as I only have a cheap digital jobby, and no decent software to play with it later. Just happy snaps! (as I'm sure you've figured by the lack of clarity in my "work"). I do try to think about light and composition tho, to get the best with what I've got. But that's also why I can get in the hills and not worry about the weight and bulk of camera gear. Part of the idea for me was to get the pics home and use them to base some watercolours on, so just need a base for composition and an idea of the atmospherics. Haven't done much tho :rolleyes
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 27 October 2013, 10:54:34 pm
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/LlanGorse3copy.jpg) (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/adthebad/media/LlanGorse3copy.jpg.html)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/CloudBankcrop.jpg) (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/adthebad/media/CloudBankcrop.jpg.html)
Post by: Lampwick on 27 October 2013, 10:56:11 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 27 October 2013, 11:03:04 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 11:19:27 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 27 October 2013, 11:30:33 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 October 2013, 11:35:25 pm
Yes, exactly what I mean about enhancing detail - well done Fazersharp! :thumbup
What can you do with this one?:
Post by: fazersharp on 28 October 2013, 12:00:23 am
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 28 October 2013, 12:20:24 am
With digital, the lens is still very important, but no longer is the camera just a light tight box, the sensor counts too. My 5D2 sensor is light years ahead of my G1 sensor, which doesn't even compete with my 5D1 sensor. I need that GH3.
Nor does film or digital see what we see. It just doesn't. So treat it as data.
My favourite photography was b&w, I could spend 3 or 4 hrs in the darkroom trying to get one display print just so. Paper flashing, split filter printing, dodging and burning and using toners to get the right result. Expose and process for a flat boring neg, then work your magic in the darkroom.
Nor is it necessarily about what you saw, it's about how you felt, emotion, what you want others to see.
I stick to the old rule of never to add or take away anything that wasn't there when you took the snap (the odd bit of rubbish, or dust mark expected)
Final rule is, if somebody asks what darkroom or photoshop technique you used to get the result, well it makes you wonder........have I gone too far. Has too look natural. A bit like JJ Cale, lots of endless cleaver studio sound work to create the most wonderful natural sounding recordings.
Oh yeah I miss my old darkroom. Oh to shoot b&w film again.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5043/5209751985_07c45cf355_z.jpg)
Post by: midden on 28 October 2013, 12:26:04 am
([url]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m523/evesdad1/file-13.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/evesdad1/media/file-13.jpg.html[/url])Good to see someone complies with the rules. this is sure to please Mr Crisp :rollin
The view down my street
Post by: red98 on 28 October 2013, 06:53:02 am
Oi, no bikes! :rolleyes
oppps.....still a good piccie ;)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 October 2013, 07:00:44 am
([url]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m523/evesdad1/file-13.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/evesdad1/media/file-13.jpg.html[/url])Good to see someone complies with the rules. this is sure to please Mr Crisp :rollin
The view down my street
Actually midden, I've been trying to think what hills those might be in the background....don't know tho.
Fazersharp - B &W eh? Hadn't thought of that. Not bad, not bad.....
VNA, have you had any of your work published? Seems as good as some that I have seen in books, calendars etc. Or have you got a website you show/sell your work on?
Post by: slimwilly on 28 October 2013, 07:43:47 am
Post by: evesdad on 28 October 2013, 08:50:18 am
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m523/evesdad1/P1000156.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/evesdad1/media/P1000156.jpg.html)
Post by: fazersharp on 28 October 2013, 09:06:44 am
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Fazersharp - B &W eh? Hadn't thought of that. Not bad, not bad.....Its not just a straight B/W convert as each of those layers of landscape hills have had different amounts of contrast- lightening, darkening and then the sky has had a lot of work done in the clouds, as VNA said it should look good but the viewer should not necessarily see that anything has been done
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 28 October 2013, 09:48:15 am
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/8870388657_89cea7a15a_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/8870388657/)
DSC_0169 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/8870388657/#) by Trackart Images Adrian Barnard (http://www.flickr.com/people/adrianbarnard/), on Flickr
Sorento, Italy.
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6184/6071510750_d14cdcef70_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/6071510750/)
Minerva Hotel, Sorrento, Italy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/6071510750/#) by Trackart Images Adrian Barnard (http://www.flickr.com/people/adrianbarnard/), on Flickr
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6140/6026706627_f14d04e8dc_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/6026706627/)
Back Garden (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianbarnard/6026706627/#) by Trackart Images Adrian Barnard (http://www.flickr.com/people/adrianbarnard/), on Flickr
Post by: mr self destruct on 28 October 2013, 04:19:49 pm
These were taken on holiday with my iphone or a little compact I have, so no advanced settings/editing here, just the right shot at the right time.
Shell Island:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/jonnyspatter/Holidays/Volkstorque%20holiday%202011/DSCF5644.jpg)
On a boat on the Norfolk Broads:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/jonnyspatter/Holidays/Norfolk%20Broads%20July%202011/DSCF5901.jpg)
And like I said, it's all about the timing. :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/jonnyspatter/Holidays/Norfolk%20Broads%20July%202011/DSCF5986.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/jonnyspatter/Holidays/Norfolk%20Broads%20July%202011/DSCF5986-1.jpg)
Post by: CRH on 28 October 2013, 04:26:23 pm
Post by: unfazed on 28 October 2013, 08:06:14 pm
Post by: unfazed on 28 October 2013, 08:17:18 pm
Post by: ChrisJH on 28 October 2013, 09:59:24 pm
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/chris-jh/5211ED5B-341A-4AEE-BD14-7ACD2849F3C2-485-00000140073FB722.jpg)
Post by: Tori on 29 October 2013, 07:40:35 pm
Unfazed's two bikes in the snow is my favourite, although a little too blue I feel :)
Some nice shots here, though some could benefit from filters (ie, bring out that beautiful sky, but still ahve interest in your foreground, rather than darkness)
One from mondays storm, just as the light was fading.
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76389_545957885473848_510855354_n.jpg)
Hdr, composite of 5 images.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1150305_514213951981575_1346384517_n.jpg)
This is using a half grad filter.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969800_509614212441549_1965803561_n.jpg)
One with an ND Grad
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/406206_365554356847536_421185291_n.jpg)
A few more of my landscapes here: [size=78%]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.197250140344626.44661.187533181316322&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.197250140344626.44661.187533181316322&type=3)[/size] amongst lots of other things :)
Post by: slimwilly on 29 October 2013, 08:08:02 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 29 October 2013, 09:07:01 pm
Do you have any recommendations for some inexpensive software I could try, just to improve some of mine? I mean, it's only a cheap digi snapper, and I really can't afford the time and expense to get the kind of results yourself and VNA get, but I was impressed by how Fazersharp was able to enhance those that I posted here, and would like to be able to have a bit of a play with that myself.
Post by: unfazed on 29 October 2013, 09:34:42 pm
Here is one of Glandore Harbour in West Cork taken outside the fishing village of Union Hall with the trawlers tied up at the pier in Keelbeg.
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 29 October 2013, 10:46:17 pm
Duncan Ban MacIntyre 1724 - 1812. One of the most renowned of the Scottish Gaelic poets.
This is his old house in the Auch Glen (Gleann Ach-innis Chalein)
MacIntyre hated sheep, the sheep which caused so many to be cleared from their homes.
"My blessing be upon the foxes, that they hunt the sheep, The sheep with the brockit faces that have made confusion in all the world."
Today the remains of the house are used as a sheep fank.
Took this snap as I was making way back out after 'climbing' Beinn Mhanach.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8167425811_96606d5701_z.jpg)
Nick, you could try The Gimp - http://www.gimp.org/ (http://www.gimp.org/) I've never tried - keep meaning to though - it's the free alternative to photoshop, I'm told it's very powerful but it might also mean a steep learning curve. I assume there's plenty of guides out there, but finding the right one is the tick.
For anybody starting at photoshop wondering what the heck to do with it I'd recommend Scott Kelby's 7 point photoshop system book. If you can excuse the terrible American English and his OTT processing it is a great shortcut to becoming a photoshop shark. His processing is OTT in my opinion but his technique, knowledge and step by step tutoring are excellent. Just where he turns it up to 100%, I just turn it up 10%. You download his images that he works on in the book and follow it all step by step. Brilliant.
Post by: Tori on 29 October 2013, 10:54:01 pm
Thanks for the nice comments, much appreciated. It's nice when folk like what you do.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 29 October 2013, 11:04:50 pm
Took this snap as I was making way back out after 'climbing' Beinn Mhanach.
([url]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8167425811_96606d5701_z.jpg[/url])
Nick, you could try The Gimp - [url]http://www.gimp.org/[/url] ([url]http://www.gimp.org/[/url]) I've never tried - keep meaning to though - it's the free alternative to photoshop, I'm told it's very powerful but it might also mean a steep learning curve. I assume there's plenty of guides out there, but finding the right one is the tick.
For anybody starting at photoshop wondering what the heck to do with it I'd recommend Scott Kelby's 7 point photoshop system book. If you can excuse the terrible American English and his OTT processing it is a great shortcut to becoming a photoshop shark. His processing is OTT in my opinion but his technique, knowledge and step by step tutoring are excellent. Just where he turns it up to 100%, I just turn it up 10%. You download his images that he works on in the book and follow it all step by step. Brilliant.
That pic - time to pitch the tent! :lol
:eek "the gimp"?! You'll have Exupnut posting on this in a minute! :lol
Seriously tho, that kind of weather I don't mind in the hills - as long as it doesn't settle in for days. It's when the rain eases and the clouds begin to clear I find that you want the camera ready.
And that shot is just the kind of thing to inspire a watercolour - a perfect composition for it.
Thanks for the tips, it'll give me something to look at through the winter.
Oh, and just saw your post Tori, thanks for that too, looks like I'm going to be busy! :)
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 30 October 2013, 07:44:46 pm
Don't under estimate the power of the gimp.
I use Lightroom to catalogue my raw files and to set up the raw files up for use in photoshop.
Presumably it can be used on jpeg and tiff files - Tori?
Everything I do starts as a raw file so I wouldn't know.
Certainly if it can, it's a great way to import and catalogue your files and the develop module has the basic controls you need to set up and image and is very easy to use.
There are of course free alternatives. But not something I've looked into.
Photoshop is a pig, but Kelby's 7 point system book can turn anybody into a shark. It's a step by step dummies guide and it works.
I did look at that shot of yours. The exposure looks OK but there's a lot of noise which makes doing much with it difficult. That may just be the shortcoming of a basic compact - dunno.
There's some really good compact and small system camera out there that produce nice clean low noise shots. A Canon g15 for less than 300 quid for example. I think it's got a decent sized one inch sensor, so noise levels should be low.
I'm using a Panasonic G1 for my walking shots, it's got a 4/3rds sensor (decent size). You can get the much more up to date and much better G5 with a kit lens for about 350 quid I think. I got one because it's compact and light, plus there are good optics available. There's an EVF (electronic viewfinder) rather than an optical viewfinder. It's basically an SLR with the pentaprism and mirror box stripped out, which is why it's so compact and in turn the lens sitting closer to the camera allows for physically smaller lens.
My G1 is the first generation, I think Panasonic were dipping their toes in the water with a new concept and the sensor is not the greatest. So I'm itching to upgrade to the GH3 which has a much sweeter sensor.
Blah blah blah blah blah ............................
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 October 2013, 08:06:50 pm
Unfortunately, I'm not really in the position to start buying camera kit while I'm paying off the bike (bike always comes first for me!). But I also noticed that although, as Tori said, Lightroom 3 is cheaper, surprisingly not by much compared to lightroom 5. So any advantage for an amateur like myself, one over the other, and bearing in mind my camera's limitations? But will have to look at other options you've mentioned too.
Just really want to play with what I already produce to get started, I don't know if I'll ever take it much further. Dip a toe, so to speak.
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 30 October 2013, 08:41:49 pm
When you shoot say, jpeg, the camera is making decisions on what to do with the data in order for it to become a digital image.
The advantage is shooting raw is that I make the decisions after the shot has been taken rather than the camera when the shot is taken.
You get a bit more flexibility in what you can do with a raw file and how much correction it will take before it turns to mush.
But raw is not available on all cameras, though it is becoming increasingly popular on more advanced compacts etc.
But you don't need to worry about raw. Though if you buy Lightroom make sure it will handle jpeg and tiff files.
If you just wanna dip a toe why not read up on and try some of the free software out there.
Though Lightroom pricing, unlike photoshop, is not unreasonable.
A quick google;
Top ten free image editors - http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/best-free-photo-editing-software-10-top-image-editors-you-should-try-1135489 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/best-free-photo-editing-software-10-top-image-editors-you-should-try-1135489)
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 30 October 2013, 08:47:22 pm
Is roadscape allowed?
The main trunk road through South Harris;
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2466/3799942133_f9225724c6_z.jpg?zz=1)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 October 2013, 09:05:40 pm
Yeah, but I'm at a disadvantage :'(
Post by: mickvp on 30 October 2013, 09:33:24 pm
The view from the top of the CN tower in Toronto:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/mickwhitworth/DSC_0182.jpg)
The view from the hotel room in Niagara:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/mickwhitworth/DSC_0903.jpg)
Back to our own country(This ones from near Arrochar):
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/mickwhitworth/DSC_0204_zps8846a7ab.jpg)
And again:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/mickwhitworth/DSC_0212_zpsd27f1bb5.jpg)
Nighttime Run up Rowardennan (this was taken in near pitch black whilst resting the camera on top of my car):
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/mickwhitworth/DSC_0250_zps69a57102.jpg)
thats more than enough for now. Ive only actually managed out 1 day this year (which is when i took the image above in pitch black). Just dont get enough time for it nowadays. shame, as I was just about starting to figure things out :rolleyes
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 October 2013, 09:37:57 pm
For everything that can be done with photo software, nature, I think, has some equally astounding effects.
Post by: mickvp on 30 October 2013, 09:41:35 pm
does your compact allow you any control over shutter,aperture, or iso, Nick? (As I know some of them do, which is essentially all I fiddle with on mine - I dont have many fancy lenses just yet)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 30 October 2013, 09:57:45 pm
Wish I lived in an area like Scotland, Lakes etc. It'd be much more worthwhile laying out for some decent kit then, and could get out in the hills all times of day/year. :\
Post by: mickvp on 30 October 2013, 10:02:32 pm
FWIW, Talk Photography has quite a busy sales section on there forum, but you do need to have a certain amount of posts to get access. Getting a cheap DSLR, or even a bridge camera which gives you more control, will help you better understand the shenanigans going on inside the camera (that last picture I posted wouldnt be possible with a compact, as I had to set the shutter open for around 6-8 seconds in order to get enough light in - something beyond the scope of most compacts)
Post by: Tori on 30 October 2013, 11:16:19 pm
Post by: devilsyam on 31 October 2013, 06:51:38 pm
Fontana lake
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/933885_10151565956028800_877820495_n.jpg)
rio grande
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/338699_10150919207088800_959050753_o.jpg)
utah
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/456986_10150919331988800_1962897630_o.jpg)
cortez
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 31 October 2013, 08:14:07 pm
In bear country, wear small tinkling bells, so that you alert bears to your presence without startling them.
Also carry pepper spray in case you do encounter a bear.
And it's useful to be able to tell black bears and grizzly bears apart by their droppings. Black bear shit tends to contain berries and maybe small squirrels.
Grizzly bear shit contains little tinkling bells and smells of pepper spray....
And another way to be able to tell them apart:
If you see a bear, climb a tree. If it climbs the tree and kills you, it's a black bear. If it knocks the tree down and kills you, it's a grizzly bear.......
Post by: slimwilly on 31 October 2013, 08:19:57 pm
:lmao2 :lmao2
:sun :sun
:sun
Post by: unfazed on 31 October 2013, 10:00:04 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 31 October 2013, 10:16:11 pm
Post by: unfazed on 31 October 2013, 10:34:17 pm
Here is one of me trying to sort out the battery charging with solar panels and generators.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 31 October 2013, 10:38:54 pm
Post by: unfazed on 31 October 2013, 11:11:25 pm
No, technical support, did not have the €30000 + required to do it. An amazing place, and spent 6 weeks fixing things like generators, charging systems, communications equipment, laptops, solar panels and anything else that came my way, for some of the teams out there. They were impressed with my theory on repairs, "if its broken the worst you can do is fix it, as you can't break whats already broken". Did managed to get in some rock and ice climbs there. Have you been there?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 01 November 2013, 06:15:41 pm
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 01 November 2013, 07:13:00 pm
Just about finished Cairngorm John, about John Allen's 30 year involvement in mountain rescue in The Cairngorms, a good read for anybody who goes walking in the Scottish hills.
Everest looks amazing. I've seen quite a few documentaries about it, including the one the other night Words of Everest, focusing on archive footage, photos and in particular private memoirs and letters of both the failed Mallory attempt (though of course nobody knows whether he made the top or not) and the successful Hillary climb. Not read anything about the mountain though.
A fascinating but strange place. But even if I had the money and/or the ability to get up there I wouldn't want to. Just don't fancy sleeping in those grave yard rubbish dumps. Sort of feel it's a mountain, a wild place that's not given it's respect. Just a personal feeling, but I still find it fascinating that people want to go to the top. I'm too old now anyway.
Forecast is not great up here this weekend Nick. Could head out but my priority is seeing what there is to see. Just got to be patient and wait for those breaks in the weather. Will probably force myself up my usual hill to keep my legs ticking over.
Me forcing myself up the usual hill;
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6453819181_bd5bb221ea.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 01 November 2013, 08:41:06 pm
I don't see any reason why experienced climbers shouldn't push new routes in such places, the problem is with the commercial guiding companies, who sometimes seem not to care if their clients are mentally and physically "right" for such a challenge - as a challenge it will always remain while there are storms, avalanches, oxygen deprivation and the risks of oedema, etc - but only seem to be interested in the profits to be made.
For me, it would be more about trekking in those regions, and especially with the camera. I would never pay such a commercial outfit to get to the top. I think Reinhold Messner has a good philosophy on such things - if you are not skilled enough or fit enough to rise to the challenge, what are you doing there in the first place?
Andy Cave - he was the coal miner, wasn't he? A great story. From the deepest depths to the highest heights! My climbing collection is pretty big these days - just bought Savage Arena by Joe Tasker and Sacred Summits by Pete Boardman, 2 of the greatest climbers Britain ever produced, and love to read about that golden age of the Brits headed by such characters as Whillans, Haston , Scott, Bonington etc. Also I read the classics of the pioneers like Whymper, Bonatti, Harrer and others - different times!
But I love the photography people produce too - such deep blue skies, alpenglow on a vast Himalayan peak, precipitous valleys and raging torrents - this is why I would go to such places - to see and photograph all this!
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 01 November 2013, 10:18:48 pm
I do like your shot of Fleetwith Pike Nick.
Yup seems to be if you are very reasonably fit, for a price they'll check the ropes and the ladders and drag you up there.
But it's also into a place where you cannot survive, simply not enougth oxygen, if you make it to the top you are effectively dying, and if you turn for the worst, other than trying to drag you down there's not much anybody can do for you. And if you do succumb you will forever be on that mountain perfectly preserved and often lying there for all that follow to see.
Some of the Sherpas can apparently (correct me if I am wrong) get from base camp, to the summit and back without oxygen within a day.
I like the rule of leave nothing but foot steps. But I'm just a walker of wee hills.
Yeah that Andy Cave was a miner, and was a miner through the strike of the 80's, partly attracted me to the book.
Just waiting for the right weather, this was just a few weeks ago, 11th October this year;
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7322/10616077214_a83aeef873_z.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 02 November 2013, 11:18:41 am
That's something I can't achieve with my compact, and so perhaps a good reason to upgrade one day.
At the other end of the scale, here's one taken whilst headed towards the top of Grasmoor - it might be entitled "Into the Smoky Distance"!
Second shot is of Catbells - the first hill on many a Lakeland walkers tick list. Not high, but a lovely ridge to walk. This was actually early springtime - I'd love to visit with the camera in the autumn, as from photos I've seen, the colours are stunning at that time of year. I didn't manage anything spectacular with this shot, but just liked the sunlit greens and browns.
And lastly, again, no photographic skill in evidence, but Blencathra looking moody - taken from a commercial campsite I used a couple of times.
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 03 November 2013, 12:11:36 pm
The weather was perfect that day I was up Aonach Beag and Aonach Mor. Visibility was perfect, could just about see England from up there.
So yeah the right day, the right conditions help big time. Going into winter I always think can help, visibility improves (on still days), the snow reduces contrast between land and sky (though bear in mind in built camera meters don't understand snow!), the low sun makes everything look more dramatic. The downside is the big shadows the low sun can create, finding the sun getting in the way of your shot, flare, and of course the cold and short days! Downside with the snow is all that light reflecting about the place, that can be dealt with a polarising filter but that means taking off gloves and mucking about - frozen hands and being late off the hill etc. The polarisor only works at 90 degrees to the sun, so for wide shots it has to come back off.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Weather has been generally miserable up here since I took those Aonach shots, only the baggers and crazy folks will be oot on the hills at the mo I would think. Peeved off.
Sure a good camera and lens helps. But don't forget the old rule, better gear won't make you a better photograher.
Understanding exposure, which is so much easier these days with digital cameras (if your camera displays a histogram then pay attention to it). Exposure is simple as there are only three variables shutter speed, aperture and film speed. Composition - read up on rule of thirds and play about with it, and a little post processing to finish it all off.
There's loads of good digi cams out there these days for not a lot of money. A free raw processor and maybe a copy of photoshop elements or something and you are in business.
Aonach Beag; 11th October 2013
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Post by: fazersharp on 03 November 2013, 12:47:42 pm
I hpoe that you do not mind Devilsyam but I have used one of yours to demonstrate some cropping- I have also given it a tweek, but you may not like it as you wre the photographer and were the real witness to the view. If you dont like it then I apologise and will remove it
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 03 November 2013, 02:44:32 pm
The 6x6 format used to very popular with Landscape and portrait photographers, presumably still is.
The format of your camera does tend to influence how you take shots. So it's not so easy to take square shots with a say 135 format camera.
Which is one of the things I find weird about modern digital cameras, that is that most of them are based on the proportions of the rather awkward 135 film format.
Thought not everybody went in that direction, Olympus, who often go their own way, not only went for a smaller sensor for it's 'serious' cameras but adopted the much more natural 4/3rds proportions .
And don't forget to turn the camera on it's side if it's gonna give a better composition.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7395/8872022580_7225c68af8_z.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 03 November 2013, 03:35:10 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 03 November 2013, 03:48:51 pm
The off-centre subject I hope is illustrated in this shot:
Post by: devilsyam on 03 November 2013, 04:38:30 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 03 November 2013, 05:01:21 pm
Post by: Phil on 03 November 2013, 05:36:08 pm
Costs more than some DSLRs though.
Square photos
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(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9660/cuyf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/cuyf.jpg/)
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 03 November 2013, 06:01:48 pm
Rule of thirds Nick, just google 'rule of thirds', you should find endless articles. Look for multiple thirds. If you look at the work of the classic old snapper Henri Cartier-Bresson you'll find his images always follow the rule of thirds, however what you find with Henri is more often than not his images have multiple thirds. Multiple thirds is eye tennis. Though don't forget, it's a rule, and rules exist to be broken.
Vertical shots, and Glen Shiel?
Sgurr na Ciste Duibhe;
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5342/10226563914_3a111f5198_z.jpg)
Beinn Chabhair 2nd of march 2013,
I thought the winter was over, the snow was thawing out fast. I packed my axe and crampons just in case, but this is up around the summit. I decided that winter must be drawing to a close.
How wrong I was. A couple of weeks later there was deep snow right down into the Glens and passes, so much so it wasn't even worth thinking about trying to get up a big hill.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8522813992_6111dd40c2_z.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 03 November 2013, 06:29:49 pm
I will have to look up that rule of thirds - all my composition tips come from landscape painting! Ah, but having said that, thinking about it, it sounds like it might be akin to the guide I already use - divide horizontal and vertical planes into 3 equal sections, don't have subject in the centre square/rectangle, but more on the intersection of the lines? (4 points).
Post by: devilsyam on 03 November 2013, 07:40:25 pm
sorry about the size nick
i find the g11 works best in good light although its iso is good the picture richness is rich in good light
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Death Valley
Post by: Grahamm on 03 November 2013, 08:41:32 pm
I can't view all that at once Luke - can you resize it?
In Firefox you can right click on the picture and then "View Image" which will fit it on the screen.
Post by: Oldgit on 04 November 2013, 02:58:25 pm
Brent c |
Post by: unfazed on 04 November 2013, 07:19:35 pm
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 05 November 2013, 07:09:45 pm
Good photo.
Post by: unfazed on 05 November 2013, 08:19:11 pm
There are major cleanups of all the ripped tents and oxygen bottles and other rubbish. There was about 25 tons of rubbish taken off the mountain in 2011. Sagarmatha Pollution Control Committee are doing their best with limited resources to try and ensure the teams take the rubbish back with them. When we were there in 2003/4 all our rubbish was brought back out in barrels including human waste, which cost the expedition over £5000. Any real dedicated mountaineer will never leave any rubbish behind. It really pissed me and my friends off to have to ask trekers to pick up their litter, they are there to take in the incredible sights and aweinspiring scenery and cannot understand the simple rule of leave only footprints. :'( Enough of my rant and here is a picture of the bossons glacier in the alps, our attempt to do the 5 peaks in the Mount Blanc failed due to 2 metres of snow falling in 3 days causing some serious avalanches. Second picture is when we finally called it off and we headed back to try snowboarding. Simple survival rule "It will be there again tomorrow"
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 05 November 2013, 08:57:18 pm
There have been one or two attempts to clear the mountain of debris over the last ten years or so, but as one can imagine, it's never going to be an easy task. It requires trained climbers (mountaineers?) with plenty of experience to carry out such a task, and of course even such people place themselves at extreme risk to do so. Given the risks, and the very short windows of opportunity regarding good weather just to get in a decent attempt at the summit, the time that would be required to bring down all the abandoned tents, discarded oxygen cylinders, clear fixed ropes and cart down all the other accumulated debris left behind by countless teams and individuals who have made attempts on the mountain over the years - I feel it would be nigh-on impossible. A clean-up team itself would be likely to add to the rubbish that they were there to collect.
And who would do it? The many westerners who travel to the Himalayan countries to climb there often save every penny for years, or have to accumulate sufficient sponsorship to be able to afford the huge costs of such trips. Most of them have to apply for climbing permits to climb any route they may want to tackle, and permits for Everest are always much in demand - and limited. Who of these would wish to "waste" a trip to those regions, never to be able to try for the summit? And even if the Nepalese or Chinese governments offered to pay people to do it, how would you get a large enough team together for sufficient time, at the right time (bearing in mind climbers often wait for weeks for that elusive weather window, just to attempt the summit), as of course, all these climbers have commitments outside of their climbing trips too?
Well, what of using local manpower, one might ask? But is it morally acceptable to ask others to risk their lives to clear up the mess left by visitors from other, wealthier countries? Bearing in mind that such local people would still require all the skills of the climbers aforementioned, limiting still further the pool of those qualified and experienced enough to try such a thing.
As for the abandoned equipment itself, wouldn't the mountain clear itself of most of this alone? Tents and other kit are ripped from it's flanks by the storms that whip the mountain frequently. Avalanches take down and bury more. Some of it may well turn up at the foot of a glacier some years later, where it will much easier to get to, to remove. Not ideal but.....
To climb such a mountain, humans need this equipment. They cannot survive such extremes without it, and even with it, they are still risking life and limb, even if they are not making a summit attempt, but may be just porters or other members of the summit team support. Lives have been lost just negotiating the approaches, with the tortured ice-falls with their mazes of crevasses and toppling seracs, heavily laden snow slopes, and the potential of rock-fall from crumbling, weathered cliffs.
Of course, there could be a ban on climbing Everest. There have been temporary bans by both the Nepalese and Chinese governments in the past. But then we get into the arguments over the rights and freedoms of people to travel, to go where they choose, to see the wonders of nature this planet has to offer. Like you, VNA, I am (or was) only a walker of small hills here in the UK, how would we feel if we were told that Ben Nevis, or Snowdon, or Scafell were to be forever off limits, because people could not be trusted with their litter? I'm sure that you would agree this would not be the way to go.
Banning climbing (and indeed, trekking) in such regions would also have a devastating effect on the local economies. Such "sports" have transformed many lives for the better, building and equipping schools, constructing and maintaining transport and communication links, and improving medical care and facilities for communities who were once virtually completely cut off from the outside world. And it may be said that perhaps that is how they should have remained, without the degrading monetary interests of the wealthy, developed nations to corrupt them. But you can't now turn back the clock.
And if you ban people from one mountain, won't they just go elsewhere, and create the same or similar problems there?
I am of the same mind as has been expressed here - take your rubbish with you, and leave little or no evidence of your passing. Trekkers have no excuse as they are not going into places (generally speaking) where they place their lives at risk just by being there. But we are but individuals who can easily carry away in much friendlier climes what we bring with us. On the flanks of the world's great peaks, it is much more problematic.
Ok, got caught out by further posts as I was trying to put this little spiel together ( :lol ), but only one more thing - Unfazed, when you say you cleared up the rubbish you created, did your team attempt the summit, or reach any significant height above Base Camp? And if so, did they manage to leave nothing behind on the mountain's flanks?
Comments?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 05 November 2013, 09:17:53 pm
Post by: unfazed on 05 November 2013, 09:53:44 pm
Is it not common practice to pay other to pick up your rubbish in all areas of life? Some see it as a way of making a living, I remember when I arrived back in Lukla to get our flight back to Kathmandu I shook hands with the porter who caried some of my gear amd gave him a 10euro tip as a thank you for his help and only later realised that it was the equivalent to two and a half days pay to him. The same porter was asked how far his home was from Lukla and his reply was "3 days walk". The biggest problem in the hi altitude areas is polution of the glacier rivers by the rubbish left in the mountains. They forget so easily that many of the communities they passed on the way and the porters they employed to assist them depend on these rivers for their survival.
A debate that will go on and on.
Back down to lower levels Biarritz from the top of the 248 step lighthouse and the beach at sunset
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 05 November 2013, 10:04:34 pm
On the point of isn't it normal for people to pay others to collect rubbish - yes, but most refuse collectors don't work in excess of 20,000ft!
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 05 November 2013, 11:04:37 pm
Great to hear the big hill has been cleaned up!
I guess Nick if shit happens and things get out of control in bad weather, sure you might not be able to take everything back down, it's survival time. Same anywhere really.
But outside of such situations nobody should be going anywhere unless they intend to carry out all their waste.
Indeed on one occasion I failed to leave only foot prints. Lost my wee bag for my ski goggles last year, got blown out of my hands. Felt bad about that! Guilty :o
I guess maybe the clean up is about exactly what you mention, either it gets cleaned up or perhaps you risk the possibility of the relevant authority spitting the dummy out. Just a matter of refusing visas.
I've seen very little rubbish on the walks I've done here in Bonnie Scotland. But I am aware that there are issues, in particular Ben Nevis, a big voluntary clean up was just completed recently, countless bin bags of rubbish having been removed.
Another issue in the Scottish Hills are memorials. More and more little memorials are being left and then found by others. Attempts are often made to contact those who left them before they are removed.
If we cannae keep mountains and wild spaces clean and free of oor crap, what hope is there for anywhere?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 05 November 2013, 11:07:07 pm
Buachaille Etive Beag. Looking along the ridge from just off the summit of Stob Dubh
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8198/8230050675_171fbb7ba7_z.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 06 November 2013, 11:03:08 am
Post by: unfazed on 06 November 2013, 08:09:20 pm
.And most divers do not dive deep in the North Sea to weld oil pipes :lol
On the point of isn't it normal for people to pay others to collect rubbish - yes, but most refuse collectors don't work in excess of 20,000ft!
A few to keep you happy
Les Houches from the the ridge to Mount Blanc du Tacul in pic 1 and the reason we finally call off the climb, notice no bergschrund at the cliff base in pic 2. and every crevasse was snow bridged.
Pic 3 and 4 are just the alps :)
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 08 November 2013, 10:34:14 am
Post by: unfazed on 08 November 2013, 03:04:15 pm
Absolutely fanastice views :)
If you go to Chamonix you can get the cable car to the top of the Aiguille du midi ( 3850 metres and take in similiar views. It is well worth it for non climbers, the skiers and snowboards use it to get height to take the glacier down. Sking or snowboarding down the glacier accross crevasses is definiteely not for the fainthearted. Unfortunately we had to go up the hard way to acclimatise :'( and on our last day we spent a few hours in the Cosmique Refuge Hut at 3600metres just beneath the Aiguille du midi. We headed up to the Aiguille, took the cable car down and went to the pub :lol
Picture is of the Chamonix Valley
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 09 November 2013, 11:22:10 am
Not a skier or snowboarder. Did go on a school ski trip once - no snow. So they took us out winter hill walking, which was a bit bonkers when I think back on it, a bit hap hazard. Remember sitting on top of a hill in a white out drinking slushy Irn Bru.
Post by: unfazed on 09 November 2013, 01:28:07 pm
Post by: nakedadder on 09 November 2013, 01:56:39 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/10712217444_c0396a6d99_b.jpg)
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Post by: unfazed on 09 November 2013, 04:51:26 pm
Post by: nakedadder on 10 November 2013, 08:47:45 pm
Great colour and detail in those two pictures. Your obviously not Toni Bou then :rollin :rollin :rollin
Thanks, and no, but I wish I had his talent :eek
Post by: tatastha-sakti on 11 November 2013, 09:00:27 pm
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2869/10806603113_9ce62d808a_b.jpg)
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Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 02:41:26 pm
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 03:59:57 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 04:13:34 pm
Great pictures with great views,my point & shoot wouldn't get results like these. :(
That's all mine is, £70 digi compact from Tesco.
Quite pleased with the results I get, and these are without photoshop after the fact. Of course, VNA, Tori and others are in a whole different league - very professional standard, but they know what they're doing! :lol
Post by: Mattsplat on 28 December 2013, 04:29:57 pm
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Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:00:46 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 05:09:02 pm
Just tried to put some pics on! but it wouldn't let me. Told that i was trying to put duplicate pics??
Have you posted your pics elsewhere, it might be a sharing issue. You could try editing them - resize slightly, or rename, and save, then try again.
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:23:13 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 05:31:10 pm
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:36:41 pm
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:37:32 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 05:42:42 pm
Got there in the end :D :D :D :D :D
Erm, this is a landscape photography thread :rollin
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:45:26 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2013, 05:55:02 pm
Post by: chunk166 on 28 December 2013, 05:59:11 pm
Post by: slimwilly on 29 December 2013, 07:05:32 am
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/cheddarrocks_zpsf0a19154.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/cheddarrocks_zpsf0a19154.jpg.html)
Vertical rock face in the Cheddar gorge
Post by: slimwilly on 29 December 2013, 08:10:34 am
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/S6300808.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/S6300808.jpg.html)
The landmark known as the Devils table is below,,on the landslip gorge on the Skirrid mountain,Abergavenny
Post by: unfazed on 01 January 2014, 05:35:42 pm
Post by: Jdalt on 07 January 2014, 11:03:47 pm
Photography used to be my number one hobby until I got back into bikes, I am now looking forward to the nicer weather when I will be able to combine both.
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(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4076/4854276713_42d115557e.jpg)
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Post by: Andy FZS on 07 January 2014, 11:16:38 pm
Post by: ddtwelve on 09 January 2014, 03:56:35 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 22 January 2015, 06:52:21 pm
Lake District shots from this week; ok, all pretty amateur, but all pretty, too :lol
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015003_zps9fb01090.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015003_zps9fb01090.jpg.html)
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015030_zpsc50f11a0.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015030_zpsc50f11a0.jpg.html)
Skiddaw:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015115_zpsfc9715fc.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015115_zpsfc9715fc.jpg.html)
Skiddaw and Keswick:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015145_zps668f8c92.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015145_zps668f8c92.jpg.html)
Ullswater:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015261_zps28626bba.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015261_zps28626bba.jpg.html)
Patterdale:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015275_zps0d84c4c6.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015275_zps0d84c4c6.jpg.html)
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015303_zpsdcd740b5.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015303_zpsdcd740b5.jpg.html)
On the way down to Windermere from the Kirkstone Pass:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/LakeDistrictJan2015317_zpsd6c7dc8a.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/LakeDistrictJan2015317_zpsd6c7dc8a.jpg.html)
I'll definitely have to invest in a better camera and start learning to do this properly soon :)
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 23 January 2015, 12:22:49 am
Post by: Fazerider on 23 January 2015, 09:46:51 am
(https://s19.postimg.cc/mi0tekc0z/MC_ss_pan.jpg)
Post by: odbguy on 23 January 2015, 10:55:34 am
Post by: youngsterbiker on 23 January 2015, 12:49:37 pm
Untill then here are some of my attempts:
Andorra a few years ago.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/430862_10200431709581598_1021646377_n_zpssuxctvsz.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/430862_10200431709581598_1021646377_n_zpssuxctvsz.jpg.html)
Glencoe in scotland last year
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/GOPR0120_zpsgzrmdg0r.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/GOPR0120_zpsgzrmdg0r.jpg.html)
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/GOPR0114_zpskmvb4lap.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/GOPR0114_zpskmvb4lap.jpg.html)
Low clouds on the A9 near pitlochry
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/20141006_185944_RichtoneHDR_zpsmhuwubft.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/20141006_185944_RichtoneHDR_zpsmhuwubft.jpg.html)
And From the top of ben-y-vrackie.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/20141007_142239_zpsoflkyh4n.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/20141007_142239_zpsoflkyh4n.jpg.html)
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/Fen_Sheridan/20141007_140648_RichtoneHDR_zpsdpetw4bl.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/Fen_Sheridan/media/20141007_140648_RichtoneHDR_zpsdpetw4bl.jpg.html)
One day i will learn how to take decent pictures and use photoshop.
Post by: odbguy on 23 January 2015, 12:52:48 pm
How do you get the picture so it comes straight up rather than a link tho ?? :/
Post by: youngsterbiker on 23 January 2015, 01:03:25 pm
Don't need to take decent pics of you have photoshop! LolI just upload them to photobucket then copy the IMG link onto here. :)
How do you get the picture so it comes straight up rather than a link tho ?? :/
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 23 January 2015, 02:04:30 pm
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/_DSC0237r1_zps1b794ec9.jpg) (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/adthebad/media/_DSC0237r1_zps1b794ec9.jpg.html)
Post by: odbguy on 23 January 2015, 03:55:12 pm
I just upload them to photobucket then copy the IMG link onto here. :)
Ahhh photobucket. Good call. Cheers mate.
^^ Sweet pic of Brecon
Post by: Fazerider on 23 January 2015, 04:30:18 pm
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 23 January 2015, 05:34:13 pm
Interesting one, Kosmic. ND filter to give a long exposure time?
Yes mate. ND filter and a few others thrown on top to give me a longer exposure. Then a bit of Photoshop to replace the bush in the foreground.
Post by: lew600fazer on 23 January 2015, 11:17:49 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 25 January 2015, 07:41:35 pm
Img is from Otterburn .... lovely place :/
Did an exercise on Otterburn ranges with 230 sqn (Puma helicopters). We were lucky with the weather, warm and sunny for the 2 weeks we were there. The cabs were taking pongos out among the moors to play soldiers, and we sat in deck chairs on the makeshift helicopter landing strip drinking cold cans of Coke as they came slogging back in at the end - should've joined the Air Force! :lol
Anyone who's seriously into landscape photography, did you see Countryfile tonight? A short feature on Colin Prior, one of the best in the subject, and showed some of his work from the Scottish Highlands. Well worth checking him out if you haven't already. A master at making best use of light in the landscape.
Linky:
http://www.colinprior.co.uk/high-light/?display=24 (http://www.colinprior.co.uk/high-light/?display=24)
Post by: lew600fazer on 26 January 2015, 06:23:30 pm
www.markmccoll.co.uk (http://www.markmccoll.co.uk)
He is my nephew and has won national and international awards.
Last year he had a photos printed in the Times & Glasgow Hearld stuff he had taken in Ice caves in Iceland.
He does a lot of landscape stuff all over the UK but a lot up in Scotland , just wish I had his talent.
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:00:02 am
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2hfv32q.jpg)
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:05:55 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/avj48z.jpg)
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:20:16 am
(http://i52.tinypic.com/1zztbl.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/s2txkz.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/95soz6.jpg)
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:25:26 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2saje3r.jpg)
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:30:54 am
Apparently, he lead his people into the desert and when he got to that point, he looked out over his new land and declared "We're the Fookawi"
(http://i55.tinypic.com/zthmjl.jpg)
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 06:36:37 am
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2r4259y.jpg)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 27 January 2015, 08:50:37 am
I think I need more clarity in my pics more than anything; a camera that gives a more sharply defined result. Perhaps it could be achieved with photo software, but having a better quality camera seems the best way to start, as I really didn't think I'd get so into it when I bought mine, believing I just wanted one for happy snaps.
Post by: Millietant on 27 January 2015, 10:34:44 pm
Liz has learned about the settings, but she says all of her best pictures have been taken on full auto settings.
Post by: odbguy on 27 January 2015, 11:16:36 pm
Did an exercise on Otterburn ranges with 230 sqn (Puma helicopters). We were lucky with the weather, warm and sunny for the 2 weeks we were there. The cabs were taking pongos out among the moors to play soldiers, and we sat in deck chairs on the makeshift helicopter landing strip drinking cold cans of Coke as they came slogging back in at the end - should've joined the Air Force! :lol
Iv done a fair few weeks in Otterburn and iv not seen to much sun in my time. Lol plenty of rain and snow !!
My brothers in the RAF, Aircraft technician. . I considered joining as a WisOp, but was missing the good school grades so decided blowing stuff up in the Artillery was better ....
should have tried harder at school .. :l
Post by: devilsyam on 27 January 2015, 11:42:22 pm
(http://i59.tinypic.com/alomf7.jpg)
Post by: devilsyam on 27 January 2015, 11:49:38 pm
Post by: devilsyam on 27 January 2015, 11:56:11 pm
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/382411_10150919331988800_1962897630_n.jpg?oh=55815364c3fe1b13a2e0ce81c130a9cc&oe=5553BC6A)
Post by: odbguy on 28 January 2015, 11:05:34 am
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm149/odbguy21/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg) (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/odbguy21/media/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg.html) little sand storm
Post by: odbguy on 28 January 2015, 11:08:34 am
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm149/odbguy21/IMG-20140825-WA0032_0-1_edit_1422434133158.jpg) (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/odbguy21/media/IMG-20140825-WA0032_0-1_edit_1422434133158.jpg.html)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 January 2015, 12:23:11 pm
([url]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm149/odbguy21/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s295.photobucket.com/user/odbguy21/media/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg.html[/url]) little sand storm
"Hey guys, come see this! Oh wow! Where's my camera, this'll amaze the folks back home. That's fantastic! Oh.........wait...........is that coming this way??..............Shiiiiiiiiiittt!!" :lol
Post by: odbguy on 28 January 2015, 07:10:20 pm
Post by: lew600fazer on 28 January 2015, 09:27:15 pm
Post by: odbguy on 28 January 2015, 09:58:58 pm
Yeah I would definitely believe that ... It was amazing how big it was, stretched for miles !
Post by: lew600fazer on 28 January 2015, 10:18:34 pm
Another effect is that the sand is that fine the roads become skating rinks ever after they dry out, the grains of sand just sit in the tarmac surface meaning a reduced amount of grip. I nearly came a cropper when I lost the front end on my FZ6. I was lucky as I picked her up and thankfully nothing was coming the other way, squeaky bum time that was.
Post by: slimwilly on 02 February 2015, 07:58:04 am
sunrise Feb1st |
Post by: Robbie8666 on 03 February 2015, 09:03:04 am
([url]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm149/odbguy21/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s295.photobucket.com/user/odbguy21/media/P1010358_0__edit_1422434278238.jpg.html[/url]) little sand storm
"Hey guys, come see this! Oh wow! Where's my camera, this'll amaze the folks back home. That's fantastic! Oh.........wait...........is that coming this way??..............Shiiiiiiiiiittt!!" :lol
Bastion by any chance?
Post by: odbguy on 05 February 2015, 06:35:03 pm
Post by: Robbie8666 on 06 February 2015, 04:18:54 pm
Danes were hoofin
:D
Post by: lew600fazer on 06 February 2015, 06:11:49 pm
Post by: odbguy on 06 February 2015, 07:08:49 pm
Guadalest looks well nice, I want to visit !! Lol
Post by: evesdad on 08 February 2015, 09:58:17 pm
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m523/evesdad1/file-24.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/evesdad1/media/file-24.jpg.html)
And to the south back down to Merthyr Tydfil and the Taff valley
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m523/evesdad1/file-25.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/evesdad1/media/file-25.jpg.html)
both straight from camera because Im not clever enough to do anything else :(
Post by: lew600fazer on 08 February 2015, 10:56:42 pm