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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: adeejaysdelight on 29 November 2011, 05:16:11 pm

Title: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 29 November 2011, 05:16:11 pm: Hi Everyone,

I plan to take my Fazer 600 off the road for 2 or 3 months, as of tomorrow. Not because I mind riding in the winter (I have a CBF125 for that), but because I have a list of things I want to do. I bought the bike 5 or so months ago, in OK condition. She needs a bit of TLC though, and winter is a perfect time for me.

I have made a list of what needs doing, and my budget is only £200 (+/- 10%). I will do all of the work myself, with a bit of help from a mate (when needed) who is a mechanic.

I am not including the cost of any additional tools I may need, although I doubt there will be any. Also, I already have some of the stuff required, and will not include the cost of that either. I have not included an air filter in my service either, as I fitted a K & N within a few days of getting the bike.

Winter Work on Frazer

Braided Brake Hoses (Full Set F/R)/ Brake Fluid Change

Calliper Re-Condition/Seals

Wheel Alignment

Spark Plugs

Oil Change (Already have it)

Engine Re-Paint

Philips MotoVision Headlamp Bulbs (Both)

Heated Grips

Clean Inside Lamp Reflector

Investigate Tapping Noise from Engine

Clean Carburettors

Remove old alarm and fit new alarm with remote start

Fit GPS holder with 12V Auxiliary socket (Already have GPS holder)

Genesis Performance Chip (Already have it)

It might seem ambitious on just a £200 budget, but I recon it is possible.

I will keep you all posted on progress and tell you where I got the stuff from as I go. If any of you have experience of any of these jobs and have some advice, great. It all helps.

Cheers
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 29 November 2011, 07:34:05 pm: Good luck with all that, but what is that Genesis performance chip supposed to do for a carburettor equipped bike?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 29 November 2011, 07:45:44 pm: That's a good point. I actually bought it for a CBR, but sold that bike before I fitted the chip. I have contacted the manufacturer of the chip, in Canada. They very kindly offered to exchange the chip I have for the correct one. I had considered that point, but these guys have been doing this for years and I admit I am investing a little trust in them. We'll see how it goes. The worst that can happen is I have a different chip from the one I have now, and it still won't do anything. Nothing lost really, except a stamp :)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: limax2 on 29 November 2011, 09:02:36 pm: I think Fazerider is probably wondering where you are going to fit the chip! The only chips I have come across on my FZS600 are in the paintwork :\ . Of course I could be wrong.
Nice list of mods.
I find a 12v auxiliary socket very handy and have fix it into the fairing side panel. Connected straight to the battery with an in-line fuse. Some prefer to come from a feed that is only live when the ignition is on.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 29 November 2011, 10:08:41 pm: I think I will fit the socket under the seat, in the big box area with a permanent feed for phone charging and so on... As for the chip, if it's the same size as the one I'm returning, it will fit away nice and neat. I am not commited to a location yet, but when I get her in bits, it will become clear (I hope). The biggest job for me will be sourcing that engine noise and fixing it. Looking forward to getting the hoses on. The breaks are all spongey and soft. They stop the machine, but could be a LOT better.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: richfzs on 29 November 2011, 10:19:21 pm: What is this chip supposed to do?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: alan sherman on 29 November 2011, 10:21:57 pm: Good stuff. My input:

Braided Brake Hoses (Full Set F/R)/ Brake Fluid Change - The club used to get a discount from HEL braided brake lines. From memory it is cheaper to buy clear plastic rather than coloured. Do get stainless banjos as anodized will
chip and fur up.

Calliper Re-Condition/Seals. Front is a good move. Rear - don't bother, try to get a FZS 1000 caliper instead as it is much better.

Wheel Alignment, Spark Plugs, Oil Change (Already have it) - Service. Include balancing the carbs.

Engine Re-Paint - Smoothrite in a spray can works well. Been using it for years! Not heat proof but seems to last just fine.

Philips MotoVision Headlamp Bulbs (Both)

Heated Grips - Only good if you wear summer gloves. Winter gloves are thick with insulation. This insulation keeps the heat from the heated grips out!

Clean Inside Lamp Reflector

Investigate Tapping Noise from Engine - Likely the camchain tensioner. Search for it on here or the old site (where is hot poop?)

Clean Carburettors

Remove old alarm and fit new alarm with remote start - Why if you are short of cash?

Fit GPS holder with 12V Auxiliary socket (Already have GPS holder) - I fitted a aux socket under the saddle to charge phone. Waterproof sockets are more expensive so you can save a bit of cash there by siting the socket there.

Genesis Performance Chip (Already have it) - Waste of time!

Don't forget to check bearings, chain and sprockets, and fork oil.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 30 November 2011, 12:15:22 am: Thanks for the input Alan. :) . I find the heated grips I have on the wee (R & G) bike fine with my winter gloves (TUZO). To be honest, as the bike is off the road for winter, I might not need them anyway. As far as the re-paint goes, one of my neighbours is in the powdercoating/re-coating industry and recomended a brush on paint as the spray can get a bit messy if you are not used to it, which I am not. I am not much of a sprayer...I put up another post entitled engine noise regarding the, erm, engine noise. I though it may be the cam chain. I'll check that first. The alarm that is on it does my head in. It self-arms after about 15 seconds, which I find a pain. I have an alarm from another bike that I will see if I can modify. The manufacturer recons not, but I'll try. The Performance chip I have already. Have you had experience of these on a big bike? I put one on a 125cc, so its hard to tell if it made a difference to its 11BHP! Chain and sprockets are good. New renthal kit fitted just before I bought the bike and its mint. Fork oil, good point sir. Its on the list.

Cheers
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 30 November 2011, 11:53:27 am: The paint arrived today. The engine repaint is the first job to be done. I am still waiting for the brass brush bits I ordered to help remove the pits and rust spots around the bolts.
Once I have the engine painted I can get the tank off and have a look to see what this noise is (Cam-chain?). I am hoping the chip will have arrived by then too, so I can fit that whilst I have good access. The 12V socket will go in at this point too, as I want a charger for a GPS mounted up near the handle bars and no tank will make this job easyer.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110779413090?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D110779413090%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110779413090?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D110779413090%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: rustyrider on 30 November 2011, 07:14:37 pm: I think the point everyone is making but you seem to be ignoring is, where do you intend fitting the chip? You can only chip the ECU on a bike (or car) that has an ECU which is only a bike (or car) that has fuel injection. You have carbs, you do not have fuel injection so you do not have an ECU so you do not have anywhere to fit a chip.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: wraith600 on 30 November 2011, 07:38:01 pm: the only " chip " ive ever encountered that works on a gen 1 fazer is the NICKO G PACK
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 30 November 2011, 08:29:26 pm: RustyRider, I am not ignoring the issue. I had said in an earlier post that I had though about it and don't know if or how it will work. All I can say for sure is that the guy from the chip manufacturer knows the situation with my particular bike and recons they have something for it. He never said what though, could be a sticker ;) . He could be wrong about the chip, I could be wrong in the understanding of his explination. There is nothing to be lost here, so it's worth a shot. I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 05 January 2012, 12:35:24 pm: I got my engine painted using this...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engine-Enamel-Heat-Resistant-Paint-Gloss-Black-250-ml-/110797059709?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item19cc04f67d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engine-Enamel-Heat-Resistant-Paint-Gloss-Black-250-ml-/110797059709?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item19cc04f67d)

And I got a set of rebranded Oxford Grips from the shop below for just £28 delivered! They are the same as the oxford ones only they say Roxter and the switch is different. But for that kind of money, who cares.

http://www.bikerswear.co.uk/ (http://www.bikerswear.co.uk/)

I also got a set of braided hoses from here...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250519011312?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D250519011312%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250519011312?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D250519011312%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1)

These hoses are official HEL product. Top of the range item for just £50. Rock on

And am lucky enough to have a sister-in-law who asked the missus what I would like santa to being me. I suggested this, and got it ;-)

http://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/node/47 (http://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/node/47)

Fitting starts today when I finish work. Well, I'll start with stripping the bike of plastic, tank and so on anyway.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 05 January 2012, 07:23:56 pm: Looks all right for a first attempt... :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 05 January 2012, 08:33:55 pm: Hope the paint stays put and doesn't turn to crap like all my attempts do!
And heated grips are amazingly effective. People kept nagging me to get some, in the end I did... and then couldn't be bothered to fit them for ages 'cos I knew half a dozen Watts wasn't going to make any difference faced with a wind-chill of -40ºC and winter gloves insulating my hands from the puny amount of warmth. I was wrong. I can now manage a commute home down the M3 in freezing conditions without suffering the horrible pain of thawing fingers once I get home.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: topgun44 on 06 January 2012, 12:09:08 am: so you did not take the engine out off the frame before u paint it :eek and that alarm is sorry but crap i have one last year it in the bin know :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 07:06:49 pm: No hoist to get the engine out I'm afraid...It is better than it was, belive me. As far as the alarm goes, I have one on my CBF125, and it has worked without fault for 3 years. I have also fitted one to my CBR600, my friends Blade and my neighbours Yam XJ 1300. All working fine :D . Maybe you got a duff one, or fitted it incorrectly? What specific issue did you have with it?
The old system is out now anyway, and I put the new one in yesterday, although I can only get the remote start working with the key in. Did the Fazer come with a factory fitted immobiliser as standard?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 07:24:54 pm: Fazerider - I have never painted an engine before, but my neighbour is in the powder coating type industry and gave me some pointers. The prep took a good 4 hours to get rid of all the crap. I then jet washed the engine with it running and let it dry. I used a hairdryer to finish it off then gave it a first coat after letting the engine cool down a bit (hold your hand on the fins for around 10 seconds, if you can do that without pain, its good ;) . I let it dry for 24 hours as instructed, then ran the engine for 10 minutes to get rid of any condensation on the engine. Let it cool down...and gave it another coat. The paint is nice and thick and freshens the engine up. I would have liked to remove it to do the job, but there is only so much time/money to invest in a 12 y/o bike. Over all I am happy with the outcome, although maybe some people may not be. Glad you, like me, enjoy the benefit of a little head on the hands during the winter. I found on my CBF that the addition of hand guards, it is even better. The guards break the wind and keep the worst of the rain and snow off, allowing a litter vortex of heated goodnes for my hands to get a proper sweat going, which is always nice :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 07:29:33 pm: CBF, With said hand guards.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 08 January 2012, 08:33:04 pm: Must admit I've not tried painting the engine, but my efforts at halting the rust on the frame have had no success. :'(

I've been thinking of fitting handguards to stop the worst of the windblast on the motorway, which ones did you get?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 09:29:30 pm: I painted the frame too, although not all of it. I preped the frame as I did the engine. I bought some steel brush drill bits, which cut the job in half, and finished with wet/dry paper. Managed to get all the rust off and touched up the affected areas. Now all the plastic is off, I will do the same with the rest of it. I am just using the same engine paint for this too, as it is waterproof with a rust inhibitor built in and the color is pretty close.
As for the grips. I generally use R & G numbers. This time I sourced a set of ROXTER grips, which are re-branded Oxford grips. On review, they do very well. I managed to get them for just £28! I put a link to the company I got them from up there /\
I could have had the engine powdercoated for cost price, but getting it out would have been hard work. I have a 4 ton lift in work that would have done it, but I would have had to ask my friend to help me with that one. Transporting the engine would have been hard too, as I drive an MX5 witch has less storage room than the Fazer :rolleyes
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 08 January 2012, 10:09:59 pm: looking good mate :)

I like the look of that paint I just wonder the Heat resistant is up to the job

the paint will resist temperatures of 180 C continuously, and 220 C intermitantly.

as I would not mind painting my as well.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 10:46:57 pm: I specifically ordered engine paint from this mob after speaking to them about my intended use. They assured me it would be up to the job. I don't know exactly how hot this engine gets, but I'm sure its hotter than 200 :eek !

I will let you know if I have any issues with it.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 08 January 2012, 10:54:56 pm: Getting the engine out involves a lot of fiddling about disconnecting hoses and stuff, but it doesn't require a hoist. I've swapped the engine out on my own a couple of times using blocks of wood to get it at the right level and some longer bits as levers.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 11:54:51 pm: I drop everything. Keys, wallet, torch...The engine WOULD end on the ground if I never had it attatched to a hoist. Good on you for giving it a go though.
I read that in order to adjust the cam chain you have to remove the carbs too, is that right?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 11 January 2012, 09:03:32 pm: Lamp reflector done. A free and well worthwhile job, if you have a couple of hours to kill :D

I split it with the method below. When it was split I took the reflectors out. I then cleaned the main body and face in the sink with water and a soft cloth. The reflectors I cleaned first with a make-up brush, then rinsed with water and wiped with a clean, wet, soft cloth. Then dry with paper towel and a hair dryer. Finaly, I used glass cleaner on the face, greased the screws and reassembled. Back in the oven to set the glue.

http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/30568#.TwtYoqUwvNU (http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/30568#.TwtYoqUwvNU)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 11 January 2012, 09:10:57 pm: Headlamp done. It has came up great and is a worthwhile job if you have a couple of hours to kill. I used the method below to split the unit. Be careful not to damage the reflector lining.

http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/30568#.TwtYoqUwvNU (http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/30568#.TwtYoqUwvNU)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 11 January 2012, 09:13:24 pm: Sorry about the double post, just getting used to this forum stuff.

Here is the lamp cleaned. Job done, well please :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: limax2 on 11 January 2012, 09:25:25 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 08 January 2012, 10:46:57 pm
I specifically ordered engine paint from this mob after speaking to them about my intended use. They assured me it would be up to the job. I don't know exactly how hot this engine gets, but I'm sure its hotter than 200 :eek !

I will let you know if I have any issues with it.

As far as heat goes that paint should be well up to the job. The engine would have seized up (or melted inside :eek ) and the water long gone well before the outside got anywhere near 200 C. Exhaust pipes are a differant matter.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 11 January 2012, 10:38:42 pm: Thanks for the input. I know it gets hot, but was not sure how hot :o . I googled it, but nothing. The company that make the paint said yeah. Its their industry, so who am I to doubt them?

Quite pleased with it though. And its the cheapest, most visual mod I am doing, Yassss...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Major Rant on 12 January 2012, 12:39:02 am: Quote
I don't know exactly how hot this engine gets, but I'm sure its hotter than 200

It's liquid cooled. It can't get any hotter than the boiling point of water under a bit of pressure.
(plus a bit cos its 50/50 glycol mix)

Max 120C... Usually less than 100C if the thermostat and fan are working properly.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 12 January 2012, 12:34:40 pm: Thanks for clearing that up. The paint is on now anyway. I felt confident in the company I bought it from. They seemed to know their stuff. Sometimes you just have to trust people
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 16 January 2012, 12:48:15 pm: Got the front brake hoses and calipers off now. After a good clean of the calipers I will start to think about fitting the new HEL braided hoses.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 16 January 2012, 12:49:54 pm: Radiator painted too. I will spray the fins when I get a chance. But for now, this is a massive improvement. :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 16 January 2012, 12:51:10 pm: And the other side...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 16 January 2012, 12:54:04 pm: And I got the grips fitted and working. I rigged the Live feed up to an ignition feed so that the circuit is broken when the engine is turned off. I got the Alarm on and working too, Remote start and all...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 17 January 2012, 01:03:47 pm: Have you got much more to finish on your winter project now? Have you gone over the £200? :)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 17 January 2012, 03:57:48 pm: At the moment the bike is in bits. I only have the wheels to take off now, then its onto the re-build. I am well under budget up to now. I got a couple of items as christmas presents, so I saved a wee bit there. Although, I think I will spend the money I saved on something else. Not sure what though. Also, the seals in the calipers are good, so I won't need them. Another £30 saved. Go the brake hoses cheap too. So, yeah, its all coming together.

Jobs still to do are...Fork oil, Auxiliary socket & gps, Cam chain, Clean carbs, Brake hoses (already stripped off), wheel alignment, fit my new bulbs and a service. Easy

I plan to have the bike ready for the first day of March, on time and in budget. At the moment I have a pile of college work to do and my job is demanding a lot of my time, but I am confident that it will happen. I have a week off in a months time, so I can put him back together then :D .
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: richfzs on 17 January 2012, 09:38:25 pm: Any news / progress on the "chip" ?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 17 January 2012, 09:39:02 pm: Good luck mate, hope you get it all sorted without too much hassle. Just wondered where did you get the headlight bulbs from, are they those super bright blue ones?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 18 January 2012, 02:05:21 pm: richfzs - I had forgotton about the chip. I will send them an email today.

Fazerjon- I am not so keen on the blue bulbs, I prefer the orange tint. They look cool when off too, as they give a wierd mystical reflection. I just bought them from ebay. Philips Motovision H7 & H4, cost around £25 for both.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 18 January 2012, 09:51:49 pm: Ok, so I messaged the Genesis performance chip people again today. Here is the low down folks...Please read the bottom message first, and work your way up. Reply's in RED

Yamaha uses the same base programming in all the ecu's therefore our chip
works on all Yamaha efi machines, as all our ads and instructions mention
efi and you actually stated that should I hook it up to the IAT sensor we
assumed you knew what your doing and your bike was a EFI machine .. so we
swapped out the chip as requested

Thanks .........

Reading the email or letter would have been a good start. But you have not
yet answered my question regarding the chips either being bike specific or
not. I would appreciate it if you could tell me that. As I highlighted
before, if they are not bike specific, then this has been a waste of time.
If they are, what bike is the replacement chip for?

Please don't get the idea that I am pissed off or anything. I am not, and I
appreciate the fact you offered to replace the chip in the first place. I
would just like to get a better understanding of what happened here.

Kind regards

Well either way we shipped you a replacement chip, if it don't work then
sorry but not sure what your expecting form here

Thanks .........

AutoRepairInfo
0825536 B.C. Ltd.

I did clearly state both in an email and the letter that accompanied the
returned chip which model of motorcycle I ride. So, if the chips are not
bike specific, what was the point in replacing it? And if they are bike
specific, which bike did you send the replacement for? Either way, this is
clearly not an error on my part. Kind regards

> Well we never referenced the bike we assumed as it states EFI you knew
your
> model was a EFI ... it doesn't work on a carburetor
>
> Thanks .........
>
>
> Hi, Thanks for getting back. I would appreciate it if you could
investigate
> that for me as I have not yet received delivery. With regard to the chip
> itself, I would like to refer to my previous email relating to my specific
> motorcycle. I ride a Yamaha Fazer FZS600 2000 Model, which is a carbureted
> engine, NOT injection. So I guess my question is this, how does the chip
> work on this type of engine? I look forward to your reply. Kind regards
> Steven
> >
> > Yes this was shipped back quite some time ago with the exchange chip, we
> > sent it to the return addresses on the package we received, we'll have
to
> > check the dates but we sure you should have received it by now
> >
> > Thanks .........
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, I am still waiting to hear from you regarding the chip I sent
back.
> > According to the courier it arrived some time ago. Can you please
confirm
> > this and let me know what is happening? Thank you and kind regards
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: richfzs on 18 January 2012, 10:12:48 pm: oh dear :\ :\
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 19 January 2012, 12:19:06 pm: Its no biggie. I got the chip for a CBR, and it was decent of them to swap it about 3 years later, without a recipt or anything. I will sit it aside and use it on the FZ1 I intend to buy next year.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 23 January 2012, 05:06:31 pm: Brake calipers cleaned and ready for refitting...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 23 January 2012, 05:08:22 pm: Hanging out to dry... :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 23 January 2012, 11:04:04 pm: Adeejaysdelight, great thread enjoying the progress. by chance of thinking of bulbs do you know which ones light up both lamps on dipped seen it on a post but can remember where.
Thanks
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 24 January 2012, 11:51:45 am: Hi Diablo,

Cheers mate. Got to do something during the cold Scottish winter :'( . As far as the bulb thing goes, I would imagine that it would be a rewiring job, as it is a switch that controls the circuit. The bulds themselves are a passive unit, in other words, they are only a piece of wire which electricity runs through, they do not manipulate the direction, flow or capacitance of the circuit in any way. So the choice of bulb should not make a difference. Unless their is some new kind of bulb out there I don't know about. In which case I am talking s**t and you should disregard everything I just said :lol . Let me know if you find it...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 25 January 2012, 09:51:10 am: Diablo, click on the 'Articles' link at the top of the homepage, and I think its the 2nd one down is the headlight mod. Theres step by step instructions and photos. I did mine, if you take your time you'll be ok. Good luck :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 27 January 2012, 11:24:51 pm: thanx fazerjon ive been looking at the mod, bit nervous with raising petrol tank but ill be carefull. I will say im gunna wait till i aquire a 12 volt adapter under seat and heated grips. :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 28 January 2012, 12:22:49 am: http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK (http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK)
a link to the site that i read about bulbs making use of both lamps.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 28 January 2012, 12:24:26 am: Argh think they just mean they are brighter lol.
Quote from: Diablo on 28 January 2012, 12:22:49 am
[url]http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK[/url] ([url]http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK[/url])
a link to the site that i read about bulbs making use of both lamps.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 29 January 2012, 07:29:38 pm: Got the front wheel off today, with the intention of doing the fork oil. Then I realised some smart arse designer decided it would be a good idea to have a LARGE allen bolt, bigger than the others and bigger than my kit's largest, on the black yolk. WTF...

Have to get some bigger allan keys then
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 29 January 2012, 08:06:59 pm: Quote from: Diablo on 27 January 2012, 11:24:51 pm
bit nervous with raising petrol tank but ill be carefull.

Don't raise the tank, take it off. Give yourself some room to work. It is only one more bolt and a hose. One man job too, unlike my Honda.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 30 January 2012, 04:25:44 am: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 29 January 2012, 07:29:38 pm

Have to get some bigger allan keys then

Talking Pish. I forgot I got these last year as my "gift" when I subscribed to Bike Magazine :lol , just never used them...Well, I have now and got those bolts out :D .
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 30 January 2012, 08:51:16 am: Thats probably better, then you've only got to disturb everything once! :)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: CharlieDee on 30 January 2012, 04:35:18 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 23 January 2012, 05:06:31 pm
Brake calipers cleaned and ready for refitting...

Exactly what I was doing at the week end!! Even robbed the sonic toothbrush to get in the nooks and crannies... our lass couldnt help notice her tooth brush tasted a little funny that evening ;) , but it did an excellent job especially in those blue spots and around the pistons... Did you have any trouble cleaning around the pistons? :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 30 January 2012, 07:38:07 pm: Don't raise the tank, take it off. Give yourself some room to work. It is only one more bolt and a hose. One man job too, unlike my Honda.

Think ill do that might as well,makes life easier. thanx adeejaysdelight. :)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 30 January 2012, 08:42:41 pm: Quote from: CharlieDee on 30 January 2012, 04:35:18 pm
Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 23 January 2012, 05:06:31 pm
Brake calipers cleaned and ready for refitting...

I done it in 4 staps, no problems at all. Quite theraputic actually.

1. Engine de-geaser foam and toothbrush, rinse, do it again.
2. Brake cleaner, spray.
3. A right good skoosh of proclean oil or another rust inhibiter oil, like WD40 or duck oil. Let it soften any remaining dirt and get the tootbrush in again.
4. Rins off and oil again.

Job done.

Exactly what I was doing at the week end!! Even robbed the sonic toothbrush to get in the nooks and crannies... our lass couldnt help notice her tooth brush tasted a little funny that evening ;) , but it did an excellent job especially in those blue spots and around the pistons... Did you have any trouble cleaning around the pistons? :lol
Quote from: Diablo on 30 January 2012, 07:38:07 pm
Think ill do that might as well,makes life easier. thanx adeejaysdelight. :)
I cleaned the calipers in a 4 stage process.
Yeah, take it off mate. Takes 5 minutes and you won't scratch it. Well worth it ;)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: CharlieDee on 30 January 2012, 09:34:19 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 30 January 2012, 08:42:41 pm
Quote from: CharlieDee on 30 January 2012, 04:35:18 pm
Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 23 January 2012, 05:06:31 pm
Brake calipers cleaned and ready for refitting...

I done it in 4 staps, no problems at all. Quite theraputic actually.

1. Engine de-geaser foam and toothbrush, rinse, do it again.
2. Brake cleaner, spray.
3. A right good skoosh of proclean oil or another rust inhibiter oil, like WD40 or duck oil. Let it soften any remaining dirt and get the tootbrush in again.
4. Rins off and oil again.

Job done.

Exactly what I was doing at the week end!! Even robbed the sonic toothbrush to get in the nooks and crannies... our lass couldnt help notice her tooth brush tasted a little funny that evening ;) , but it did an excellent job especially in those blue spots and around the pistons... Did you have any trouble cleaning around the pistons? :lol
Quote from: Diablo on 30 January 2012, 07:38:07 pm
Think ill do that might as well,makes life easier. thanx adeejaysdelight. :)
I cleaned the calipers in a 4 stage process.
Yeah, take it off mate. Takes 5 minutes and you won't scratch it. Well worth it ;)

My method was:
1 - Spray down calipers with brake cleaner solvent (removes excess brake dust)
2 - Scrub with warm soapy water
3 - fine tough nylon brush to clean off pistons (ensuring free movement) and the continued detailed cleaning with our lass's sonic toothbrish
4 - Red grease(water based) the pistons to lube the piston seals then push back in(removed excess grease)
5 - Re wash and scrubbed the caliper and cleaned the brake pads and caliper spring/plate off
6 - copper slipped the retaining pin & back of pads
7 - Re-assembled and refitted onto the bike

Maybe a bit anal... im now more confident in the state of the calipers... he says!! :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Motorbreath on 30 January 2012, 09:52:06 pm: Quote from: Diablo on 28 January 2012, 12:22:49 am
[url]http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK[/url] ([url]http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/used-review-yamaha-fazer-600/4313-2.html#ixzz1jdOVZraK[/url])
a link to the site that i read about bulbs making use of both lamps.

First page, last lines:

"What did Yamaha replace it with? The revvier, buzzier R6-engined tart's handbag that is the FZ6. Alas poor Fazer! We knew you well..."

English is not my mother lenguage. I know what tart means, but what does it mean this expression? It sounds funny.
The right way to wire the lights:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,181.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,181.0.html)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 01 February 2012, 08:51:00 am: A tart is a female who put way too much makeup on and perfume. lol In liverpool some call their women their tarts.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 01 February 2012, 08:18:04 pm: Update - I done the fork oil today, and made an arse of it. Explanation...

There are two washers, one with a hole and one without. The one without goes on top. I, like a total idiot, reassembled the forks with them in the wrong order. I put them back on the bike, locked up the garage and came in the house. It was in the shower I had my "eureka" moment, and realised that I have wasted my day and my new oil. :'(

So, let's look at the positives...This being my first go, I now know how NOT to do it. Also, the forks and all those components are getting the royal treatment as the new oil will be flushed out and replaced in a couple of days, this time with better stuff.

It only seems right I put up the good with the bad here, and hopefully I can save someone making the same mistake as myself.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: CharlieDee on 01 February 2012, 09:10:51 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 01 February 2012, 08:18:04 pm
Update - I done the fork oil today, and made an arse of it. Explanation...

There are two washers, one with a hole and one without. The one without goes on top. I, like a total idiot, reassembled the forks with them in the wrong order. I put them back on the bike, locked up the garage and came in the house. It was in the shower I had my "eureka" moment, and realised that I have wasted my day and my new oil. :'(

So, let's look at the positives...This being my first go, I now know how NOT to do it. Also, the forks and all those components are getting the royal treatment as the new oil will be flushed out and replaced in a couple of days, this time with better stuff.

It only seems right I put up the good with the bad here, and hopefully I can save someone making the same mistake as myself.

I shall remember that when I do mine!! Cheers!! :rollin
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Motorbreath on 01 February 2012, 11:08:22 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 01 February 2012, 08:18:04 pm
Update - I done the fork oil today, and made an arse of it. Explanation...

There are two washers, one with a hole and one without. The one without goes on top. I, like a total idiot, reassembled the forks with them in the wrong order. I put them back on the bike, locked up the garage and came in the house. It was in the shower I had my "eureka" moment, and realised that I have wasted my day and my new oil. :'(

So, let's look at the positives...This being my first go, I now know how NOT to do it. Also, the forks and all those components are getting the royal treatment as the new oil will be flushed out and replaced in a couple of days, this time with better stuff.

It only seems right I put up the good with the bad here, and hopefully I can save someone making the same mistake as myself.

Mate you may not need to disassemble them to fix it.
1.Put the bike on the centerstand.
2.Open the handlebar clamps and place the handlebar over the clocks.
First one leg:
3.Soft the allen screw that holds one fork leg (the upper smaller, not the bigger!)
4.Remove the fork cap, (easiest if it is on the softest preload mark and the cap that you are not dissasembling is at the hardest position).
5.Now you can get the upper washer. Remove the spacer and this is tough part: I do not know if the oem washer can be caught with a magnet. I used a magnet and a long hook when I changed the springs, but the washers were made by myself and they were on the right position near the top. You may need to stick the magnet to a long thing to reach it and expect it being magnetic.
6.Put every thing in place and do the other leg.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 02 February 2012, 10:54:25 pm: I had the forks off the bike (which is pretty easy considering the bike is naked just now), totally stripped and hanging upside down to let them drain of old oil. I use an old cat tray as my oil tray, which I just poured all of the internals into. I then proceeded to clean them all, one at a time. I never checked the order they came out as I have my Haynes manual, which has a clear diagram. And that was my mistake...

The washer in question is part number 2. Looks to me like there is a hole there. What you recon?

Well anyway, I took a tired and cold guess, and got it wrong :\ . I'm over it now and have taken the positive from it.

Let me know what you see in the picture.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Motorbreath on 03 February 2012, 12:46:47 am: It is not your fault, that is not a fazer fork, the haynes is wrong. Download the 2002 yamaha service manual or part catalogue. Do not download the 2000 yamaha supplement because it is wrong too. Neither the 98 manual because it is for non-adjustable forks.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 03 February 2012, 08:15:32 am: Cheers for that moterbreath. Any idea where I can acquire said manual from the old interwagon?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: squiz on 03 February 2012, 01:49:22 pm: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1)

i got my manual from here mate:)
if not i have another in pdf format let me know n il see what i can do.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 03 February 2012, 02:32:21 pm: Quote from: squiz on 03 February 2012, 01:49:22 pm
[url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1[/url])

i got my manual from here mate:)
if not i have another in pdf format let me know n il see what i can do.

Ha ha thats where I got mine from, just as good as the one in the shop/ebay etc!!
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: squiz on 03 February 2012, 07:05:14 pm: yep...only far cheaper jon lol......have only ever had to buy one workshop manual for all the cars and bikes ive owned in the last 22 years lol

gotta love the interweb! :rollin
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Motorbreath on 03 February 2012, 09:45:50 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 03 February 2012, 08:15:32 am
Cheers for that moterbreath. Any idea where I can acquire said manual from the old interwagon?

You are welcome. Can I ask a favour in return? Could you measure the length of the spacer if you get it in your hands again? (number 3 in your haynes picture), and your springs if they are original? I guess the manual specs may be wrong.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 04 February 2012, 09:02:06 pm: I re-done the forks today, as I made a pig's ear of it during the week. This time I used shell advanced 15w oil, which feels very nice. They feel as if there is quite a bit more resistance than the standard 10w. I will have to wait to get on the road though.

I seem to have lost my white grease. Does anyone know if copper grease can be used on axle rod's? I have not relubed the shaft yet (tee hee hee), so I want to check first.

I also finished painting the radiator. I had already done the sides and piping, but the fins had quite a bit of pitting. So I gave them a double coat of black engine spray paint. Came up ok, and a definite improvement.

Motorbreath - The spacer, number 3 in the picture, is 183mm. I forgot to measure the spring, sorry mate. But I'm not sure if they are original or not.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerjon on 05 February 2012, 12:55:41 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 04 February 2012, 09:02:06 pm
I re-done the forks today, as I made a pig's ear of it during the week. This time I used shell advanced 15w oil, which feels very nice. They feel as if there is quite a bit more resistance than the standard 10w. I will have to wait to get on the road though.

I seem to have lost my white grease. Does anyone know if copper grease can be used on axle rod's? I have not relubed the shaft yet (tee hee hee), so I want to check first.

I also finished painting the radiator. I had already done the sides and piping, but the fins had quite a bit of pitting. So I gave them a double coat of black engine spray paint. Came up ok, and a definite improvement.

Motorbreath - The spacer, number 3 in the picture, is 183mm. I forgot to measure the spring, sorry mate. But I'm not sure if they are original or not.

I always use LM Grease for lubing my shaft!! I have heard some stories about using copper grease on shafts, as it can be abrasive on certain metals. I normally use copper grease on threads, and the back of brake pads to stop them siezing in the calipers. :)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 07 February 2012, 06:05:01 pm: Hi just whanted to say a big thanks about the paint :) just painted mine two day its nice stuff :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 07 February 2012, 10:55:30 pm: Your welcome mate. It comes up pretty good with a bit of prep and patience. Did you sand the fins back to expose the silver, like it was from the factory, or did you leave it black? I have mine back for now, but I think I will rub it down.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 08 February 2012, 03:06:43 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 07 February 2012, 10:55:30 pm
Your welcome mate. It comes up pretty good with a bit of prep and patience. Did you sand the fins back to expose the silver, like it was from the factory, or did you leave it black? I have mine back for now, but I think I will rub it down.

I sand the fins back to the best I cud do as must of it was coming off it look nice it smells nice as well then you run the bike the first time ;) I did the rocker covers as well not in black :rollin silver
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 February 2012, 07:27:13 pm: Put up a picture, I would love to see it :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 08 February 2012, 09:31:46 pm: (http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/mamodsteam/DSC02776.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 08 February 2012, 09:36:41 pm: there you go that was the second cote of paint .
I did one more cote touched up in places its now looks better now then this pic :rollin I for got the cam today when I was down at the garage I will show you a better pic in a day or two :lol .
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 08 February 2012, 10:16:24 pm: Spot on bikerboys. Lookin good :D . I spent the day yesterday getting off the bits of paint I got on the exhaust. I used a stanley blade, a scourer, turps and metal polish. Over, and over, and over and....... :rolleyes Yawn. But it came up really good. Took ages, but its worth it. I also got the "spillage" off the hoses and stuff too. Then gave them a bit of rubber feed. I am well pleased.

I have to strip and rebuild the rear caliper now. I have ordered new pistons, pads and seals. I will get that done at the weekend if all the bits arrive on time.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 12 February 2012, 08:31:43 pm: I have now got the front end back together, forks, brakes and all. It is starting to look like a bike again. I ordered some axle grease for the, erm, axle. Decided not to use copper grease as I read it can do damage. I know the axle is not a moving part, but still.

I am awaiting the assitance of my friend (Pro mechanic) to do the last of the technical jobs I don't want to risk myself. Once I get a day of his time, I can get the project finished. I am off for a week as of Friday, so I hope to get a hold of him midweek.

I really can't wait to see it all finished. But there is still a bit to go, so I won't get ahead of myself.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 26 February 2012, 12:43:49 pm: Bike is almost finished now. Sorry there have been no more pictures, my Blackberryis playing up and I can't email. I will get that sorted and get some pic's up.

I have sorted the engine tapping noise (cam chain tensioner), fitted the reconditioned calipers and braided hoses front and rear, cleaned the rear wheel (off the bike), chain, sprockets and swing arm. I have also fitted my auxiliary waterproof socket and USB cable for the GPS. Fitted a new fuel filter and iridium spark plugs too & I got a set of those jack up linkage, as per post on the "general" forum, so I got them on.

I have to do a little mod to the alarm system involving a 100 ohm resistor, re-wire the right hand headlamp so that it works on dipped beam and do the wheel alignment, paint 2 engine panels and change the oil and filter.

After that I will take it to my local dyno center for a carb balancing and a run on the rolling road, then I should be good to go...
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Diablo on 28 February 2012, 09:18:09 pm: good progress, cant wait to see it. :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 02 March 2012, 08:51:53 am: I re-done the brake fluid last night with dot 4+. It gave the new stuff a chance to settle and I managed to get a tiny bit of air from the right hand front caliper. I got the scoop I needed for the air filter too, so that's on too. I am now waiting on the kidney cover and the starter cover to dry so I can re-fit them (gasket required on the right side, Yam only part :'( ). Wheel alignment done too. It was 1/4 and 1/8th turn out, which you probably would not notice on the road.

I will get the new oil and filter done on Sunday, then stick the engine covers back on and that should be her. The alarm work is not urgent, but getting her back on the road is!!!

Pictures coming soon.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Looney tune on 02 March 2012, 09:11:07 am: Quote from: bikerboys on 08 February 2012, 09:31:46 pm
([url]http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/mamodsteam/DSC02776.jpg[/url])

Fair play to you boys who bike all year round, not easy up here. My bike goes to bed the end of September and is still asleep, but I let it purr every now and again. Did you buy your bike in Cockermouth last year ? :pokefun :kiss
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 02 March 2012, 02:51:16 pm: I got my bike form a lovely fella in a wee toon called Stanley, down near Newcastle. I got the bus down and was planning to ride back up (assuming I bought the bike). When I got there, he had made up the spare bed for me to stop the night if I wanted to. What a nice act of human kindness, I though anyway. I took the bike off his hands and the rest is...History.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 02 March 2012, 03:04:50 pm: As a wee off shot of the "headlamp conversion", I would like to say that, although the link on this forum is accurate, it is highly over complicated and is no better a job than the way I done it. So here is how...

You will need -

1 Yellow (smaller of the two sizes) female spade crimp/connerctor

1/2 meter of 1.5 or 2.5 copper wire

Soldering iron & snips

Ok, disconnect the battery and locate the wire that feeds the headlamp on dipped beam. Got it? Right, cut it and bare about 10mm on each end, as well as 10mm on one end of your 1/2 meter of wire. Now solder those three together.

Now run the cable tidy as you like to the right headlamp connector block. Cut to lenth and bare around 15mm. Twist and fold, then slip into the female spade, after removing the yellow seathing. Now crimp (I like to add a solder too, for good measure).

Slip the spade into the remaining space in the connector block and tape up the lot with warmed electrical tape. Try make it as water tight as you can.

Plug the connector onto your bulb and tell me that is not easier than all the pissing about...And for anyone in doubt, a good solder is far superior to a crimp.

Simples :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 06 March 2012, 12:57:17 am: Today I had the bike out for her first run since doing the works. The weather was good and the roads dry, so a perfect opportunity to test out the new parts. Rather than a huge written analysis, I thought I would put up a video.

So without further ado...

http://youtu.be/ecla3ONqcuw (http://youtu.be/ecla3ONqcuw)

http://youtu.be/Q_3BYxLy1vc (http://youtu.be/Q_3BYxLy1vc)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 06 March 2012, 09:29:02 am: Looks lovely, but where's the centrestand gone?

As for your headlamp rewire, am I right in thinking the rh dip is on even when you're on main beam? :eek
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 06 March 2012, 02:07:07 pm: I never had a centerstand in the first place. I use a paddock stand. As for the main beam and dip beam, they have always worked together. The single cable I attached has not affected that in any way.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 06 March 2012, 02:35:52 pm: If you've wired it so both filaments in the right hand bulb are lit when on main beam it'll be dissipating 115W in that side... I'd be a bit nervous about subjecting the reflector to that much heat, not to mention the increased current through the wiring.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: topgun44 on 06 March 2012, 02:45:33 pm: nice mate but you did not do mirrors they look like late ones off 2002/2003 ;)
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazer Jake on 06 March 2012, 07:10:23 pm: Well done mate, cracking job :D
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bikerboys on 06 March 2012, 09:26:20 pm: Quote from: topgun44 on 06 March 2012, 02:45:33 pm
nice mate but you did not do mirrors they look like late ones off 2002/2003 ;)

I have to agree :eek what a big difference it made.

Looks nice mate well done :D paint still looks good on mine after 3000 miles and still holding up well
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 21 April 2012, 12:05:07 pm: Sorry it took so long to get my pictures up here. My Blackberry has been playing up. They are absoutley Pish. Anyway, here are some pics of my bike all finished. She is running like new now, and looks great. I have yet to see one of the same vintage in better condition :lol
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 23 April 2012, 10:11:43 am: Some more pic's
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Skippernick on 23 April 2012, 03:29:18 pm: Is it me or are you missing a radiator guard?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 23 April 2012, 08:05:18 pm: And more still...

Quote from: Skippernick on 23 April 2012, 03:29:18 pm
Is it me or are you missing a radiator guard?

Erm, no, I don't think so...?
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Skippernick on 23 April 2012, 08:33:59 pm: Quote from: adeejaysdelight on 23 April 2012, 08:05:18 pm
And more still...

Quote from: Skippernick on 23 April 2012, 03:29:18 pm
Is it me or are you missing a radiator guard?

Erm, no, I don't think so...?

just looks like you are just a black grill that is hinged at the top and protects the rad from stone strike, maybe its the picture angle.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: Fazerider on 24 April 2012, 08:51:11 am: Quote from: Skippernick on 23 April 2012, 03:29:18 pm
Is it me or are you missing a radiator guard?
They're an after-market addition that some people choose to fit. I've left my radiator naked too... currently on my fourth, but none of the previous ones would have lasted longer with a grille in place, it's corrosion that did for two of them and impact with a car driven by a blind woman that wrecked the other one.
A fender extender is much more use for protecting the radiator IMHO.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: bootz76 on 24 April 2012, 10:02:53 am: great job mate,dont want to sound picky but your rear brake hose is on wrong!! the guides should route it on the inside of the swingarm NOT the outside,dunno if thats an mot failure or not but it could snag or chaff on the can.
Title: Re: Winter
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 24 April 2012, 11:38:59 am: Quote from: bootz76 on 24 April 2012, 10:02:53 am
great job mate,dont want to sound picky but your rear brake hose is on wrong!! the guides should route it on the inside of the swingarm NOT the outside,dunno if thats an mot failure or not but it could snag or chaff on the can.

I know. I noticed after I bled the breaks. I will re-do the fluid soon anyhow, so I can change it the. It is secure. And, err, good eye!