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General => General => Topic started by: stevierst on 02 October 2013, 06:29:37 pm
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Went to Raceways in Fleetwood for a set of brake pads, and there it was, the mt09 spanking new.
I paid for my pads and was asked did I want to take it out for a spin. Silly question really. ......
Within the first 10 seconds I was giggling like a schoolboy with his first porn mag. This thing is a hoot and a half! Massive torque from almost tickover, and it keeps on pulling up to about 12k!!!!
It's like sitting on a light supermoto with twin turbo nitrous power, it's awesome!
It's a hooligan tool, for that there's no doubt. It was trying to wheelie off every roundabout at very low revs! It's a Sunday blast tool, but an every day ride, Erm, no!
Controls feel a bit fisher price, and the mode button works, but would probably get ignored after a while.
I even think it looks cool! Can't wait for a faired version. :))
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If they finally do a nice faired version and I think a loan might be in order...
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If they finally do a nice faired version and I think a loan might be in order...
The modder hat is on. :evil
I wonder how hard it would be to mod an FZ-1 fairing to a MT-09?
Also, I'm sure Skidmarxx and other companies will soon produce fairings for the bike. And if you're really keen, write and ask them! (they have a contact form on their site for custom orders like this). 8)
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Shame about the every day ride, I'd love one but would need to commute on it.
Then again, would you say an FZS600 is a good everyday bike anyway? Would the MT-09 be any worse?
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I'd be more inclined to modify a C90 fairing, but I already did that on my old T'cat, plus I'm a bit weird like that!
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The fzs is probably one of the best all weather, do it all bikes I've ridden, shame mine is going soon :-\
The mt09 might be a bit of a handful in bad weather such as sub zero due to the huge bottom end torque, so maybe not an ideal commuter.
I had a quick look through the mt09 parts catalogue, and there is a bolt on flyscreen available already. Doesn't look too bad at first glance either.
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The fzs is probably one of the best all weather, do it all bikes I've ridden, shame mine is going soon :-\
The mt09 might be a bit of a handful in bad weather such as sub zero due to the huge bottom end torque, so maybe not an ideal commuter.
Isn't this exactly what the mode switch is for though? A setting for a more tame power delivery that would be more usable in poor conditions?
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Even in 'B' mode, it's still very torquey, albeit with less throttle snatch and a bit more gentle power delivery.
I'd still be a bit cautious in slippery conditions though.
But it's not for that, it's for having HUGE FUN on. :o
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"Dear Santa, can you come in through the garage door this year, because...." ??
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The fzs is probably one of the best all weather, do it all bikes I've ridden, shame mine is going soon :-\
The mt09 might be a bit of a handful in bad weather such as sub zero due to the huge bottom end torque, so maybe not an ideal commuter.
I had a quick look through the mt09 parts catalogue, and there is a bolt on flyscreen available already. Doesn't look too bad at first glance either.
Oh yeah stevie....ditching a fazer eh :eek ......at least youve still got the best fazer to fall back on...the boxeye 600 :) .....awww i feel all warm saying that.....let me say it again for everyone else....boxeye fazer!!! :D
Hope your not getting an mt09 instead! :b
I just wish i had more dosh saved up because i can see allot of cheap fazers coming up soon with all this mt09 frenzy going on.
Anyone got a lend???????.....pay you back on Giro day!
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Only a 14 litre fuel tank :eek . What's that all about?
Otherwise I like it.
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I guess that's acceptable if it's only for "recreational" use, for want of a better word. Clearly, with no kind of fairing it's not meant for touring. Again, I'd be interested to see what other set-ups this engine gets used in.
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Only a 14 litre fuel tank :eek . What's that all about?
Otherwise I like it.
I didn't take it out long enough to find that Out, but it'd be bloody annoying!
And sadly it's the boxeye that's going, not the fz1.
So I'm looking for another cheap commuter.
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The Flyscreen thingie looks really good fitted as does the comfort seat and the pillion seat cover thingie!
I'm waiting for the UK press to test it over here on our roads to see if they likey or no-likey and I want to see all the colours in the flesh.
Then I'll ride one. I'm tempted to keep the FZ1 just in case it's a 5 minute wonder that I wont like. I'd be gutted if that was the case and I'd let the joy of my life go :(
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You'll be amazed how much the mt09, and the fz1 are like chalk and Cheese locksmith. The mt is a high powered supermoto/street bike, and the fz feels like a tourer when you get back on it. The mt engine is tuned for low down torque, whereas the fz is a screaming thrash machine. It's worth the experience though, it'll certainly make you giggle.:))
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"recreational" use is all I do, one of the reasons I have kept my 600 for 12 years is that nothing has seemed to tick the same boxes my 600 does better enough to change (for my use). I thought about the fazer8 - but not quite enough. Thought about the fazer thou but not bothered about two up or touring or straightline speed and a bit heavy for little me. So far everything I have heard about the MT is pricking my ears up and im getting bigger ticks in my boxes.
Could this be the bike to prise my 600 out from under my legs
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"recreational" use is all I do, one of the reasons I have kept my 600 for 12 years is that nothing has seemed to tick the same boxes my 600 does better enough to change (for my use). I thought about the fazer8 - but not quite enough. Thought about the fazer thou but not bothered about two up or touring or straightline speed and a bit heavy for little me. So far everything I have heard about the MT is pricking my ears up and im getting bigger ticks in my boxes.
Could this be the bike to prise my 600 out from under my legs
Im with you fazersharp, i think in general people have less recreational time every year as working hours & financial restrictions get worse & worse so it makes sense to cater for the folk who just go out for a sunny afternoon weekend blast as they are would guess the majority of sales & this seems to fit the bill perfectly...for me it still isn't an option as i cant afford a new bike but in the future when they are say 3 grand i could see me choosing one over much of the competition.
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Just a thought....I wonder how much they are in America ? If you can buy a brand new FZ1 for about 4 grand sterling then this has got to be a lot cheaper than that, surely.
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Yeh but the handle bars will be on the left hand side
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My local stealer has now sold out of them!
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I think the tag price was £6300!!! (can't be right, surely?) And the salesbloke said they'd sold 3 before the bikes even rolled onto the shop floor. And another 2 the following day. He's got 2 + a demo left. ::)
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You'll be amazed how much the mt09, and the fz1 are like chalk and Cheese locksmith. The mt is a high powered supermoto/street bike, and the fz feels like a tourer when you get back on it. The mt engine is tuned for low down torque, whereas the fz is a screaming thrash machine. It's worth the experience though, it'll certainly make you giggle. :))
The FZ1 feels like a tourer afterwards !!
Jeez is that good or bad? :evil
I'm assuming they will sell out all over as my dealer only has 6 and one of them is the demo bike.
Maybe they are trying to "create" demand and put the price up for when supply meets demand for next season.
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Saw my first one yesterday outside local dealer--looks really nice. They are having an open evening tomorrow so may get a ride out. Would be very surprised if they up the price. They know they are onto a good thing by keeping price under £7k. They want to sell more bikes and this looks like the way forward.
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Your spot on there Dave, probably clever sales tactics.
As for making the FZ1 fell like a tourer, it's hard to believe, but the MT09 is very light, and there's not a lot in front of you when your sat on it! The seating position is very much Supermoto with your feet directly under you, and your hands quite close to the body, it's to be honest, a bit weird! All your weight seems to be on the front wheel, personally I was a bit reluctant to pushing it round the bends because it just felt odd.
And then there's the power delivery!!!!!
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If all your weight is over the front wheel, I would have thought you'd be more able to push it round the bends?
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Interesting link,prices!
http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html (http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html)
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Interesting link,prices!
[url]http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html[/url] ([url]http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html[/url])
WTF?
"Being a sub 800cc model, the MT-09 has the potential to enter India as a CBU,"
Last ime I checked, 847cc was bigger than 800. And I thought it was a 900cc, not an 850?
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Interesting link,prices!
[url]http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html[/url] ([url]http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheelers/2013/2014-yamaha-mt-09-fz-09-three-cylinder-naked-bike-004926.html[/url])
WTF?
"Being a sub 800cc model, the MT-09 has the potential to enter India as a CBU,"
Last ime I checked, 847cc was bigger than 800. And I thought it was a 900cc, not an 850?
Worst article. ever
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Your spot on there Dave, probably clever sales tactics.
As for making the FZ1 fell like a tourer, it's hard to believe, but the MT09 is very light, and there's not a lot in front of you when your sat on it! The seating position is very much Supermoto with your feet directly under you, and your hands quite close to the body, it's to be honest, a bit weird! All your weight seems to be on the front wheel, personally I was a bit reluctant to pushing it round the bends because it just felt odd.
And then there's the power delivery!!!!!
Lots of test units, affordable at the beginning... it looks like they are selling dope :lol It have been said they are going to increase its price later, apparently.
Sterviest, do you think it is actually fast or it does it make that illusion? No offense to you, I'm not a native speaker and I'm not sure I am choosing the right words . I mean that many times even professional testers admit a bike goes faster or slower than it seems while riding it. I thought my new bike wasn't much faster than the FZS until my pillion almost fell off and other mates were left far behind. For example you say it seems the weight is on the front, but the pictures and "cycleergo" seem otherwise. Some people has said it has a short wheelbase just being impressed, but in fact it is quite long, 1440mm. I've read a test form an american magazine comparing it to the SPEED triple, the big one, and they said that the triumph was more flickable despite its weight??
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I had a quick look through the mt09 parts catalogue, and there is a bolt on flyscreen available already. Doesn't look too bad at first glance either.
Its about the same size in real life as the picture, its tiny.
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I just wish i had more dosh saved up because i can see allot of cheap fazers coming up soon with all this mt09 frenzy going on.
Crescent always sell of bikes cheap this time of year, but they have new Fazer 1000s for £7,599
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right..... had a test ride yesterday, so glad i did, i had over an hour on it..... i thought surely this is gonna be a great bike, its had so many positive reviews, everyone loves it, get your order in now cos the next batch will be more expensive, its the bargain of the century etc etc..... i was going to put a deposit down before i had even ridden one. But i didn't gel with it at all.....the one i rode had the optional comfort seat, but 15 minutes in my arse was killing me, alleviated by putting all your weight through the pegs admittedly, but i cant ride like that all the time..... then there was the clutch, the test bike had optional "shorty levers" which made the clutch too heavy for me, but bear in mind my test ride was around london so there was a lot of gear changing.[/size]the engine.... maybe i just don't get the 3 cylinder thing, but combined with the on/off ride by wire throttle thing, it was just difficult to make smooth progress in 'a' and standard mode..... b mode was better but that dulls the engine character.... My fazer 1000 is a carburettor bike and is so smooth, comfortable, easy to ride and fast to boot..... ok the mt09 is much lighter and you deffo notice that when sitting on it, and the narrower seat make it easier to get your feet grounded for a short arse 5'6" like me, but i really didn't gel with it..... maybe a ride outside london would have made me feel better about it, but then again maybe not..... so glad i rode it cos i've just saved myself 7 grand.... and i get to keep my lc...........yipeeeeeeeeeee[/color]
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right..... had a test ride yesterday, so glad i did, i had over an hour on it..... i thought surely this is gonna be a great bike, its had so many positive reviews, everyone loves it, get your order in now cos the next batch will be more expensive, its the bargain of the century etc etc..... i was going to put a deposit down before i had even ridden one. But i didn't gel with it at all.....the one i rode had the optional comfort seat, but 15 minutes in, my arse was killing me, alleviated by putting all your weight through the pegs admittedly, but i cant ride like that all the time..... then there was the clutch, the test bike had optional "shorty levers" which made the clutch too heavy for me, but bear in mind my test ride was around london so there was a lot of gear changing.
the engine.... maybe i just don't get the 3 cylinder thing, but combined with the on/off ride by wire throttle , it was just difficult to make smooth progress in 'a' and standard mode..... b mode was better but that dulls the engine character.... My fazer 1000 is a carburettor bike and is so smooth, comfortable, easy to ride and fast to boot..... more low down torque on the mt09 ?.. dont think so!!!...ok the mt09 is much lighter and you deffo notice that when sitting on it, and the narrower seat make it easier to get your feet grounded for a short arse 5'6" like me, but i really didn't gel with it at all..... maybe a ride outside london would have made me feel better about it, but then again maybe not..... so glad i rode it cos i've just saved myself 7 grand....yipeeeeeeeeeee
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Funny you should say that.
Saturday I was standing outside my shop having a coffee. I spotted the MT from my local dealers obviously with a test pilot aboard and you could tell from his body language he wasn't gelling with it.
The traffic was stop start and he was stopping and starting with it when he could have been jumping it. He was putting it in neutral as well every time he stopped so to me he looked like he was hating it.
Sounded pretty weedy as well !
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locksmith me and you maybe quite similar. I saw you were having similar thoughts about getting a mt09. I remember riding with you on an Essex ride out back in the day with lum et all. I was unfazedfazer on the old site
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Blimey that WAS a long time ago :lol
Something is telling me not to be hasty with the MT, that's why I'm not going to have a ride yet. Wait and see what the real world thinks about it.
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I really wanted to like it. In the ten years since I've had the fazer I thought bikes must have moved on. Familiarity is making me feel a little bored with my fazer and I really fancy a change. But mt09 not my cup of tea
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Good write up on here http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/BIKES/REVIEWS/2013_Yamaha_MT-09_review.html (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/BIKES/REVIEWS/2013_Yamaha_MT-09_review.html)
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And yet again the snatchy fly by wire throttle and front end handling is mentioned - mmmmmm?
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And yet again the snatchy fly by wire throttle and front end handling is mentioned - mmmmmm?
I wonder why Yamaha can't get this right first time by now? Apparently, the Ducati Hyperstrada is the same, but KTMs 990 SMT is a lot better. They must have tested the damn thing to death before putting it to production, did their test riders just think, oh well, it'll do? :\
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Ride magazine think it's the best bike to come out of Japan since the R1 !!
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But did they try it in all different scenarios? The biking press seem to have this habit of taking everything to their favourite areas and just ragging the arse off them, whilst Joe Public is going to have to live with them day in, day out, in all situations. Like I said before, I think it'd be great, as long as it doesn't have to be your only bike. I would wait until someone publishes a long term test and really uses the thing before deciding to buy.
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My mates got a MV Agusta Brutale 800 (wow that's a mouthful) and that has FBY throttle issues. He was having trouble in corners. Sometimes I'd catch him up very quickly mid corner. On it's first service it was given a factory ordered remap which has improved things and he's now got more used to it.
So even loads of dosh bikes have these issues!
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And yet there'll probably be a Power Commander that'll sort it before very long. So if the manufacturers of PCs can do it, why not Yamaha in the first place?
I...........just.........don't.............understand............. :lol
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Christ knows why they've put a mode selector on a 800cc bike that only makes 110hp, if you can't cope with that much then why buy the bike in the first place?
I don't really get the point of them at all to be honest, even when I'm on a powerful bike in the rain i want the power to come in exactly as i tell it to with my wrist, not how some computer feels it should!
That said, traction control I'm entirely in favour of :lol
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Christ knows why they've put a mode selector on a 800cc bike that only makes 110hp, if you can't cope with that much then why buy the bike in the first place?
If you aint ridden it, dont knock it! The torque delivery in A mode is incredibly sharp power delivery no matter how careful you are! Not exactly what I would call safe if you ride in all weathers. B mode is very different, and ideal for wet/slippery conditions.
And it's not really about the horsepower on this bike, it's all about the torque. Why are the Brits so obsessed with horsepower??? ::)
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Doesn't necessarily have to be all to do with horsepower - I'm sure at least one of the modes is designed for fuel economy...
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The 3 modes give the same horsepower so I've read. It will be interesting to see the dyno charts for the 3 modes.
Feedback from market research to Yamaha said riders wanted instant throttle response so they did just that. They even gave another 2 modes which isn't quite as instant. And what do some people do? Moan :lol
Ride magazine has a 40 mile test route for MPG. The KTM 1200 Adventure bike did 55.8 mpg in sports mode, 48.5 mpg in rain mode.
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Ride magazine think it's the best bike to come out of Japan since the R1 !!
Bike magazine says Japan's best bike since the Fireblade too.
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Ride magazine think it's the best bike to come out of Japan since the R1 !!
Bike magazine says Japan's best bike since the Fireblade too.
That's the one! (age has crept upon me and stolen some of the rapidly depleting marbles):o:o:o:o
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I guess overall, Yamaha have come up trumps with this bike, and as a bit of a Yamaha fan (think I've owned more Yams than any other make), I'm pleased for them. Reading back over all the posts (and threads!) on this, it's hardly surprising that we all look at it from the point of view of what we as individuals want from a bike. But I think if you can step back from that, read all the reports and write-ups so far, you'd have to admit they seem to have produced a top class machine.
Another one for the dream garage - garage? I think by now I'd need an aircraft hangar!
BUT NOT AS MY ONLY BIKE!! :lol
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And yet there'll probably be a Power Commander that'll sort it before very long. So if the manufacturers of PCs can do it, why not Yamaha in the first place?
I...........just.........don't.............understand............. :lol
It's emissions basically. Manfucturers have to run bikes both lean and with a huge amount of ignition advance as standard to get them through emissions tests, which makes bikes very jerky on and off throttle.
Power commanders of course can ignore those tests and just get the bikes to run as they should do!
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Don't forget the full Akrapovic system for it !
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Interesting, and may help those who are seriously thinking about it.....
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/10/yamaha-fz-09-vs-triumph-street-triple-r-vs-mv-agusta-brutale-800-comparison-test-review-specs-photos/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/10/yamaha-fz-09-vs-triumph-street-triple-r-vs-mv-agusta-brutale-800-comparison-test-review-specs-photos/)
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If only I had a spare 6 1/2 grand spare! :-\
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Thanks for that Nick, now I can't wait till next year I must buy one now.:lol
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TBH, that write-up just makes me want all three..... :lol
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Well I've one mate with the Brutale and another with the Triumph so it's inevitable I HAVE to have the MT!
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What a cracking idea! All I gotta do is find myself some friends each of whom owns a bike I'd like to have!
Er, I'll start with finding myself some friends.............. :\
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MCN have tested it against the same bikes.
They say the yam and the mv are shit basically.
How can two reviews from different sides of the Atlantic be so different.
I've seen one private review on a YouTube test ride (British) and he said ignore what MCN say about the MT-09, they're lying :eek
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That's what I thought. If you buy this bike without a test ride there is a good chance you may not like it
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MCN have tested it against the same bikes.
They say the yam and the mv are shit basically.
How can two reviews from different sides of the Atlantic be so different.
I've seen one private review on a YouTube test ride (British) and he said ignore what MCN say about the MT-09, they're lying :eek
Wow isn't that funny, that means the Triumph won, imagine a Triumph winning in MCN it happens every bloody week. I bet MCN are on a retainer.
Even Fast Bikes mag who love Triumph have said this is a great bike.
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MCN have tested it against the same bikes.
They say the yam and the mv are shit basically.
How can two reviews from different sides of the Atlantic be so different.
I've seen one private review on a YouTube test ride (British) and he said ignore what MCN say about the MT-09, they're lying :eek
Wow isn't that funny, that means the Triumph won, imagine a Triumph winning in MCN it happens every bloody week. I bet MCN are on a retainer.
Even Fast Bikes mag who love Triumph have said this is a great bike.
My thoughts entirely. I wonder how many times they mentioned the throttle response in total.
On the Street Triple I had a few years ago the suspension was bad over bumps, hardly any give in the forks at all at speed and a thack in the seat as well. No doubt the ST would be better around a track, but thats not what the MT09 is for. I think thats all the MCN testers who race a bit are interested in.