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General => General => Topic started by: stupidamerican on 25 September 2013, 12:04:34 pm
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Forgive my ignorance.
What is the general rule of thumb for traveling through small towns/villages? I know in most places the post speed limit is 30mph but it seems to me most people travel at 40mph instead. I've had plenty of cagers riding my bumper or back tyre when I was traveling the speed limit in town.
Is there a gentleman's agreement I don't know about or are these people traveling too fast?
I find it amazing even in the countryside how many different towns and villages pop up here and there.
Thanks
Clayton
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If you don't want a ticket 30 means 30 !!
Plenty of people ignore the town/village limits I know so if you are getting tailgated move over and wave them pass. You get some real funny looks from car drivers when you do that and as soon as the limit allows sweep past them at warp factor 4 :)
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I only ever go through villages and towns on full throttle, I only change down to pull wheelies outside schools and hospitals.
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If you don't want a ticket 30 means 30 !!
Plenty of people ignore the town/village limits I know so if you are getting tailgated move over and wave them pass. You get some real funny looks from car drivers when you do that and as soon as the limit allows sweep past them at warp factor 4 :)
:agree
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It's idiots like Streetbudgie (it's ok pal, I know you were taking the Michael...) that get bikers a bad name. For me, 30 limits are just that, more so through sleepy little villages, because they'll complain the loudest, and create more tendencies amongst the rule makers to legislate against bikes. 40s a bit more relaxed, for me, same with 50 (depending very much on the road here), but nsl sign means glf....
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It's idiots like Streetbudgie (it's ok pal, I know you were taking the Michael...) that get bikers a bad name.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
I make sure I can stop at the distance that I can see. That goes for both the road, and the area around (if a view to the sides is blocked and some kid can run in front of my bike, I go extra slow). So sometimes under the speed limit, sometimes 2 or 3 times the speed limit. Depending on the situation/conditions.
I just make sure to keep it quiet through residential areas, near hospitals etc.
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My rule is simple.
20 30 and 40 are gospel.
50 and national are up to you.
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Any time you break it you risk points
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Ride at 28 in the 30, then wave the tailgating twat past just before the speed camera :)
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My rule is simple.
20 30 and 40 are gospel.
50 and national are up to you.
BUT
Any time you break it you risk points
Agreed, apart from the 20's we now have in London which are just retarded!
Or as good ol' Jack Burton says ' I only drive as fast as I can see, and besides, its all in the reflexes!'
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:agree
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I only ever go through villages and towns on full throttle, I only change down to pull wheelies outside schools and hospitals.
Brilliant .. :rollin :rollin
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Great!
Now I can do some wheelies and burnouts in any village near you! :D
Thanks for the advice. I figured 30 means 30. I've just had a lot of cars riding my arse doing 30mph. I've even had a few fellow bikers blow me by when out in the country doing 60mph. I know I'm a little older than some squid type riders but I didn't think I was going that slow.
Generally I don't worry about how other people ride but I didn't want to break riding etiquette either.
I think the Fazer attracts a little older rider (no offense tended but usually true I find).
Most of the time I ride pretty cautious (sometimes slow) especially when line of sight is limited.
Thanks
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My rule is simple.
20 30 and 40 are gospel.
50 and national are up to you.
BUT
Any time you break it you risk points
50 is also gospel for me, but I wish those in power could set the right limits for the right areas.
My mrs' parents live on the A478 in Wales on a sweeping left hand bend. The limit is 60, but if you're going any faster than 50 you won't have time to react if we're pulling out of their drive. I've had a few near misses with bikes opening it up out of the village, which has a 50 limit until 100 yards before their house. :rolleyes
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Durham police had a good system. Lots of national limit roads broken up with 30 villages. They would stop bikes in the 30 limits and have a chat. They said, "we know you are going to do 80 odd in the national areas, and so long as you are careful and don't take the piss, then we'll not get upset with that. The 30s and 40s we will nail you if you go over."
This was fair and they were true to their word. If you were a dick going over 100 they would get you, but if making progress and not being an idiot, if you happend to stray to 80 they were not bothered. They were not trying to stop people enjoying the roads, just stick to the 30s etc. When they are fair and sensible like that you take more notice of the limits.
I stick to the 30s 40s etc, then makemy own mind up for the rest.
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Great!
Now I can do some wheelies and burnouts in any village near you! :D
Thanks for the advice. I figured 30 means 30. I've just had a lot of cars riding my arse doing 30mph. I've even had a few fellow bikers blow me by when out in the country doing 60mph. I know I'm a little older than some squid type riders but I didn't think I was going that slow.
Generally I don't worry about how other people ride but I didn't want to break riding etiquette either.
I think the Fazer attracts a little older rider (no offense tended but usually true I find).
Most of the time I ride pretty cautious (sometimes slow) especially when line of sight is limited.
Thanks
This kind of makes me question whether biking is really for me. I'd rather keep my arse as a one way passage and as for being blown by other bikers :eek [size=78%]. Well each to their own[/size]
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My rule is simple.
20 30 and 40 are gospel.
50 and national are up to you.
BUT
Any time you break it you risk points
Agreed, apart from the 20's we now have in London which are just retarded!
Or as good ol' Jack Burton says ' I only drive as fast as I can see, and besides, its all in the reflexes!'
Even 30 through limehouse link is ridiculous
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Just watch out for the scamera vans , those points soon add up .
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Just remember, it's a limit, not a target!
20, 30, 40 stick to it or below, even 50 depending on the area. Nationals are "take your chance" roads.
If you get caught breaking it, take it on the chin, but be prepared to watch the speed limit drop on that stretch of road in the near future. That's what they're doing on some awesome roads round where I live.
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havin stumped up 86 quid to do the drivers awareness course and avoid 3 points on my licence i know the police are looking to catch people doin up to 40 in a 30 limit as there the ones the course is aimed at. it turns out that if you hit someone at 30 there realy is an 80% chance they will live. of course if your goin fast enough to kill yourself then your another unwanted statistic.
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I've seen idiots doing 45 in a 30 limit and 100mph in a National Limit.
If you want to do that, fine, it's your choice, but don't expect me to follow you. (And do expect me to laugh when you get nicked...!)
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Speed limits are for 60 year old ladies. Too low for good drivers/riders. Hate them.
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Speed limits are for 60 year old ladies. Too low for good drivers/riders. Hate them.
How do I get my leathers over my plaid skirt and cardigan and can someone suggest how to stop my shopping bag from interfering with my heated grips? Oh yes I ride slow but quick enough for me.
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30s and 40s I stick to, 50s usually so but occasionally up to about 60. National speed limits and dual carriage ways I ride as fast as I think is prudent really - one of the only reasons I'm thinking not to get another sportsbike as I did used to find myself at well over double the speed limit in some of the nationals around me.
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Thanks again for the advice.
In the States, town speed limit is 25mph across the board. We don't have many speed cameras except a few major cities. But.... the cops are crazy (mad) about their damn radar guns. They'll sit behind some hedges with their radar/laser guns and catch you doing 10-15 over the posted speed limit.
I've seen one scamera van since I've been here and plenty of the stationary cameras atop a light pole (weird) but only a few times have I seen cops with radar guns.
Speeding and the whole police element is quite different over here. It seems like there a fewer police officers worrying about catching people speeding. In my home state of Illinois, there is a whole squad of Harley motorcycle cops and their only job is to catch people speeding - nothing else. It's a pretty big money maker back in the States. :wall
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Speeding and the whole police element is quite different over here. It seems like there a fewer police officers worrying about catching people speeding. In my home state of Illinois, there is a whole squad of Harley motorcycle cops and their only job is to catch people speeding - nothing else. It's a pretty big money maker back in the States. :wall
:lurk
This should be fun. Most of us are of the opinion that chasing speeding motorists is all Plod ever does here!
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Speed limits are for 60 year old ladies. Too low for good drivers/riders. Hate them.
How do I get my leathers over my plaid skirt and cardigan and can someone suggest how to stop my shopping bag from interfering with my heated grips? Oh yes I ride slow but quick enough for me.
No need to get offended, it wasn't meant to be offensive.
Speed limit is set so that 60 year old woman driving a car can react in time. It is not for the average driver, but for the poorest one that passes the test. I consider most speed limits too low. Never had a ticket, or an accident on a motorycle (just on a bicycle :) ).
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not sure I can believe this thread
if you need to ask how fast you can go then you need to be back at school !
harsh ? yes but if your own common sense does help you then no one will !
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Speed limits are for 60 year old ladies. Too low for good drivers/riders. Hate them.
How do I get my leathers over my plaid skirt and cardigan and can someone suggest how to stop my shopping bag from interfering with my heated grips? Oh yes I ride slow but quick enough for me.
No need to get offended, it wasn't meant to be offensive.
Speed limit is set so that 60 year old woman driving a car can react in time. It is not for the average driver, but for the poorest one that passes the test. I consider most speed limits too low. Never had a ticket, or an accident on a motorycle (just on a bicycle :) ).
I see what you're getting at, but you have to remember that while most people drive like idiots I bet almost all of them would say they're better than average ;)
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My rule is simple.
20 30 and 40 are gospel.
50 and national are up to you.
BUT
Any time you break it you risk points
Thats plus 1 for me. Except in a 50 I would be pretty close to the limit, but in the National speed limit I ride as fast as I feel like according to the conditions. :)
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So it seems you've touched on a sensitive subject here, stupidamerican (I can't keep calling you that!! - gimme something else!), but I'm sure you'd get similar back in the States. Have you met Mr. 40mph yet? 40 in a 30 limit, 40 in a 60 limit, and probably on the motorway too. Plenty of those around. 30 and 40 limits I absolutely agree with. Slower if conditions dictate. Best not to get impatient. We have police radar traps here too, I got caught by one in Essex who was also concealed behind a hedge.
Methods and stringency of enforcement in catching speeders vary between different county/authority areas. In Wiltshire for example, most if not all the scameras have been removed from the main roads (A roads) - the markings are still on the roads, and the warning signs are still up, but no cameras. Other places are drenched in the damn things. Parts of the M25 are now a scamera nightmare, you could lose your license within a couple of miles, and there seems to be little agreement as to how active they actually are (people say some are turned off sometimes - would you trust your license to hearsay?!)
In Wales, it seems to be mostly vans parked by the roadside, just done three days very enjoyable riding there though and didn't see any (hope there's not a nasty letter due soon!), although I got pulled by a copper there a few years ago and done, but he did compliment me on my riding!
As to the money making side of it, that's an argument that has been raging for a good while here too (i.e. just another tax for the motorist!). As per Wiltshire, after the initial camera love-affair, things do seem to be settling down a little, the motorists lobby is a powerful one, a real vote loser if they let things go too far. If Mr. & Mrs " Middle England" keep getting nicked whilst taking little Billy to and from school, popping to the supermarket in the little ol' 4x4 etc, they know they'll probably be out in the next election! (Cynical, me? :lol ).