Post by: Skippernick on 23 September 2013, 03:57:25 pm
Post by: slimwilly on 23 September 2013, 06:21:17 pm
Post by: peterjca on 23 September 2013, 06:37:39 pm
November issue of Bike popped through the letterbox with the MT-09 on the cover and the bold claim:
"Japan's best bike since the Fireblade".
!!!
Post by: locksmith on 23 September 2013, 06:41:49 pm
Post by: peterjca on 23 September 2013, 06:50:17 pm
"The MT-09 instantly makes the FZ8 redundant...
...You'll need very specific reasons to buy an FZ1 over the new triple as well."
Bike verdict:
Forget the MT-01 and MT-03. The MT-09 shares their philosophy, a few styling cues and Transformerish logos, but is an entirely new experience. Light, manageable, grunty, comfy, fast -- the list of desireable traits goes on. Comparisons to the class-dominating Triumph Street Triple are unavoidable, but over a 200 mile day the Yamaha is just as agile and easy to exploit, but with a stronger engine, better spec and finer fit and finish. Details like offset clocks and high, close bars need a bit of acclimitisation, but within a couple of hours it's utterly natural. £6799 is an utter steal, but a dealer has told us the second batch of bikes will be more expensive. Buy one now."
5/5 stars
I'm bloody intrigued!
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 September 2013, 06:56:10 pm
Lets just hope they don't do an Apple and release a new model every year with one slight thing tweaked and charge more for the privilege :|
Post by: noggythenog on 23 September 2013, 06:59:10 pm
I'll be sticking with :faz 's,
Stick a Fazer sticker on it & i'll consider.
But if i eventually replenish my funds i'll be getting me a nice, cheap, & probably sadly forgotten Fazer 8.
Poor fazer 8 :\
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 September 2013, 07:02:44 pm
Post by: noggythenog on 23 September 2013, 07:12:12 pm
Any particular reason for the FZ8 noggy?I like the way the Fazers rev & produce their power..im the same with cars as i like Honda vtec engines over say a torquey diesel.I dont think ill ever need the power of a Thou & so the FZ8 falls nicely in the middle between the 6 & thou & i really like the styling of the FZ8.
I think the FZ8 will be a future unsung hero. 8)
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 September 2013, 07:14:06 pm
Post by: chaz on 23 September 2013, 08:42:18 pm
Post by: slimwilly on 23 September 2013, 10:15:54 pm
I do need a half fairing,especially when it rains from Hereford to Milan, alot of rain that is.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 23 September 2013, 10:22:32 pm
Post by: mr self destruct on 23 September 2013, 11:07:34 pm
Post by: jon on 24 September 2013, 06:26:41 am
Post by: pitternator on 24 September 2013, 07:31:02 am
You have to compare it with the street triple, cos basically Yamaha have seen its success and this bike is its answer to it. BUT the street has a 17 litre tank. I doubt if the Yam extra cc will make a massive difference but almost at the outset it has made a negative before its had a chance. The price is cheaper than a street but I aint sold on the yams looks. I dont think at this stage it will scupper the street at all.
Just wait for Triumph to react. Already they have 0% finance on any triumph this month, I am sure they will look at price if Yam dont increase theirs.
If yam do increase price, then they are giving themselves an uphill battle once more.
I wish them luck , but its not cut and dried in my thinking.... :( ....their best advantage over most of the other jap offerrings is at least they made it a triple not a 4 ...IMO the best config for a road bike.
Post by: Davebo on 24 September 2013, 09:06:14 am
I dont think ill ever need the power of a Thou
:eek Huh?
Must admit tho I am nowhere near using all the power of mine... yet.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 24 September 2013, 09:22:00 am
I dont think ill ever need the power of a Thou
:eek Huh?
Must admit tho I am nowhere near using all the power of mine... yet.
I DO NEED it!!! Gimme more, MORE, MORE, yeeee-ha!
But seriously folks, for me, the best thing about more power in higher capacity bikes is having lots of midrange, where it actually becomes useful. It would seem that triples develop quite a bit of midrange, and so I would agree with pitternator that it probably makes it a very good road-use engine. I believe the biking press likes to use the term "flexible" :rolleyes
Post by: locksmith on 24 September 2013, 09:40:53 am
That said if the range is less than my Gen2 I would seriously think before buying.
Post by: chaz on 24 September 2013, 07:02:41 pm
Post by: pitternator on 25 September 2013, 07:37:03 am
If it is a 14 litre tank, most reserves are 4 litres. 10 litres at 9 miles /litre ( 45 mpg average) = 90 miles.!! :'(
That would fook me off, when my m8 on a street is getting 130 miles range before reserve light comes on .... :)
Post by: Simon.Pieman on 25 September 2013, 01:50:24 pm
Well, why not? It's basically what the japs have been doing for the last 50 years. A great example is the old Gpz550H1 from 1981, in 1982 the H2 version came out and the only differences was the colour bars on the bodywork were reversed and the rear brake switch was changed from a mechanical one to an electronic switch. So they charged an extra £100 for the H2.
Lets just hope they don't do an Apple and release a new model every year with one slight thing tweaked and charge more for the privilege :|
Post by: Hamos on 25 September 2013, 03:54:20 pm
Post by: Tefer on 25 September 2013, 04:14:02 pm
Fuel capacity is hardly generous at 14 litres, but the MT is reasonably economical, averaging almost 50mpg to give a typical range of about 120 miles, if not the 150 miles claimed by Yamaha.
Post by: mr self destruct on 25 September 2013, 04:28:10 pm
Lock
If it is a 14 litre tank, most reserves are 4 litres. 10 litres at 9 miles /litre ( 45 mpg average) = 90 miles.!! :'(
That would fook me off, when my m8 on a street is getting 130 miles range before reserve light comes on .... :)
Reviews are estimating it at 48 mpg so you're not too wide of the mark, I'd be filling up every 2 days. :\
Post by: Grahamm on 25 September 2013, 05:27:43 pm
Fuel capacity is hardly generous at 14 litres, but the MT is reasonably economical, averaging almost 50mpg to give a typical range of about 120 miles, if not the 150 miles claimed by Yamaha.
Foc that, with the Power Commander on the "economy" map I can get 190 miles out of my FZ6 before getting to the reserve!
And I've done 20 miles on reserve with fuel still left in the tank.
Post by: Skippernick on 27 September 2013, 07:29:45 pm
In the flesh it looks awesome much better than pics. It's got a very aggressive riding position, so that coupled with a 14 litre tank, average mpg was showing 49.9 which considering people will be yahooing around on it is not bad, means its more of a toy, plus theres no storage space.
Keep the fazer and have a second bike, if only i could afford it.
Post by: locksmith on 28 September 2013, 09:45:05 am
Post by: Skippernick on 28 September 2013, 10:25:11 am
I suggested to the mrs that I should buy one and keep the FZ1 in case I don't like it. :)
:lol Mines away at the moment maybe i should just use the credit card.
Post by: ogri48 on 28 September 2013, 11:04:16 am
Post by: Phil on 28 September 2013, 06:04:17 pm
raining. It looks nice in the flesh, sitting on it the bars seem quite high
and wide and the footpegs quite far forward and low. I'd say its halfway
toward a trail bike riding position. I was quite suprised at this, wasn't
expecting it at all. Great for my knees though. Frank started it up and it
does make a nice noise at low revs. Nobody had booked a test ride in the
afternoon and he suggested I book it for 3pm and hope the sun came out.
Driving home the sun did come out and the roads started to dry, so I got the
bike out and rode back over straight away. I had 1 1/4 hours on it. 60
miles. I went from Charminster past Three cross and down the Cranborne Chase
road towards Wimborne.
Sitting on the front part of the very triangular seat the bars are very
close and it feels like a supermotard. Back a bit on the wider part feels
more normal. Its very narrow, my knees didnt rest against the tank like the
Fazer8, a bit like the F800GS I rode in Feb.
The engine is a peach, pulls hard from low revs. I seem to remember the
Street Triple I had came alive in the 6-9000 range (or 5-8000 cant
remember), with a huge induction roar as sound track. No induction roar like
that with the MT-09, but a decent noise from the can and power was
everywhere. 50mph in 4th on the Fazer8 gives a bit of a dead spot at 5000
rpm, but the MT-09 had none of that, no holes at all. Riding along back
roads in 4th and overtaking traffic was easy. Impressive.
Gearbox was great. The bike had done less than 600 miles and was due its 1st
service soon. Bikes I've run in have had sticky gear changes as they
approached 1st service mileage.
I found the suspension fine for my tastes, it soaked up a lot of bumps well.
Much better than the stuff the Fazer8 came with. Even with the posh Ohlins
shock I've got I have it set slightly softer than the suggested standard
settings.
Pillion seat is small and there is nothing behind it.
A couple of times I slowed down, stuck it in 2nd and opened it up just to
see what happened. It did sit down slightly at the rear, but I wouldn't say
it was bad. Whilst doing this changing up from 3rd to 4th the front did get
flighty over some small bumps. The front came off the ground once. I put
this down to the higher wider style of handlebars and riding position and
nothing to do with the suspension. Too much pressure on the bars at speed
might cause a few wobbles.
This is where comparing the MT-09 and Sreet Triple like the mags are doesn't
make sense as they seem so different in feel. The only thing in common
really is 3 cylinders. It isn't a Street Triple with an 850 engine in it.
The brakes were fine without being impressive.
Recently I had a go on the new Tiger Sport, and reckon the MT-09 has a much
more lively engine and better suspension. The Tiger was far too hard on the
rear, although I didnt try adjusting it, although it felt like the spring
was way to stiff. Steering felt oddly heavy at slow speeds too. I wasn't
impressed, I really wanted to like it. So as a comfy sporty tourer it failed
big time.
The only thing I didn't like was in 'A' mode, the sporty one, at low speeds
in 1st/2nd opening from throttle off wasn't to clever. It just got so far
and whacked the power in. In the other 2 modes it was fine. In 3rd and
above 30-35 mph it wasn't a problem. Defintaly needs a tweek there and I can
see why it gets a mention in the mag tests. Its not as bad as some of them
make out though, in my opinion.
The saleman said up until the previous test rider, the average mpg readout
said 54mpg. (Pinch of salt) That dropped to 44 mpg by one rider. Did he ride
it just in 1st ?? Doing normal test ride stuff I raised the average up to
47.5 mpg, so reckon for me I could get over 50mpg no problem. No idea if the
gauge is accurate.
Hopefully Yamaha will make a MT-09 with a decent 1/2 fairing/screen. A bit
of extra weight over the front might help the flightines too, although if you
dont want that you could just not accellerate as hard. Maybe a bit of
an adventure style, it sounds like they are going to judging from the riding
position. Something like that would have been just the thing required for
my last trip around Romania. I was on the pegs a couple of times, and a
Fazer8 isnt designed for that.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 September 2013, 07:22:31 pm
Post by: slimwilly on 28 September 2013, 07:27:38 pm
Post by: mirdif64 on 28 September 2013, 07:46:06 pm
Post by: ogri48 on 29 September 2013, 10:21:57 am
Post by: Phil on 29 September 2013, 11:11:25 am
V good write up Phil
Thanks. I'm off to Yamaha with all your responses and going to ask for a discount :)
Regardng the cheaper price than we have come to expect from Yamaha, I didn't realise that the Yen has lost value against the £ by 25% in 2 years. Thats good news for the Japanese as their exports will be more atractive and good for us as we getter cheaper Japanese goods.
I only hope that for the half faired version they dont do what Ducati did with their Hyper-Strada touring version of the Hyper-Motard, and just stick a tiny handlebar fairing and panniers on, and say there you go, theres your tourer.
Post by: mr self destruct on 29 September 2013, 04:42:23 pm
Post by: fazercol on 29 September 2013, 06:22:32 pm
:foc MT 09!!! ;)Had my Fazer8 for just over a year now and love it only gripe I have is the size of the tank would have been better with a 20 litre tank.
I'll be sticking with :faz 's,
Stick a Fazer sticker on it & i'll consider.
But if i eventually replenish my funds i'll be getting me a nice, cheap, & probably sadly forgotten Fazer 8.
Poor fazer 8 :\
when I have finished with it (if I do) the wife has already got her eyes on it to repace her fzs600. :)
Post by: locksmith on 30 September 2013, 04:06:29 pm
Looks really good in the flesh, so much better than the pictures.
Sat on it and it feels a little more upright than my FZ1 but feels a natural position.
They started it up (in the showroom) and it sounds a bit tame if I'm honest.
It had the comfort seat and pillion seat cover fitted and they looked really good.
Although it had a grey tank it's called racing blue :lol
I want one :)
Post by: noggythenog on 30 September 2013, 04:08:37 pm
:foc MT 09!!! ;)Had my Fazer8 for just over a year now and love it only gripe I have is the size of the tank would have been better with a 20 litre tank.
I'll be sticking with :faz 's,
Stick a Fazer sticker on it & i'll consider.
But if i eventually replenish my funds i'll be getting me a nice, cheap, & probably sadly forgotten Fazer 8.
Poor fazer 8 :\
when I have finished with it (if I do) the wife has already got her eyes on it to repace her fzs600. :)
What will you get next though.......would it be an mt09???????
Post by: Dead Eye on 02 October 2013, 07:14:11 pm
I kinda like having obscure vehicles as such - the FZS600 is a bit of a step away from that but I know very little about the motorcycling world :P
Post by: Aegis Bearing Mel on 02 October 2013, 09:30:48 pm
I can hit reserve after 80 miles on me FZ1, reserve runs dry around 26 miles too, so with 4 litres less in the tank I'd be stuck in a forecourt a LOT!
I need to refuel at least twice a week on 'Bee as it is whilst commuting, reckon I'd be every day and a half in this wee fella.
Still, through a bigger tank and some more cubes at the engine, I'm definitely sold!
:D
Post by: slimwilly on 03 October 2013, 08:05:28 am
Post by: fireblake on 03 October 2013, 09:42:15 am
Mickey
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 03 October 2013, 07:54:31 pm
Post by: fireblake on 03 October 2013, 08:45:41 pm
All this talk of the MT-09 which I think looks like an excellent bike has just led me to the MT-01 and 03 which I had never even heard of. The MT-01 is quite possibly the most badass looking and sounding thing I have ever laid eyes on other than the old V max! If it were my money I think I would get a 2nd hand one of them instead and go and tear myself off some small continent with the torque that thing has. Utter beast! New addition to my dream bike list I think.That's on my bucket list bikes. I need to trawl the dealers and get myself a go on a few bikes that I've always liked but would never buy?
Mickey
Post by: marcusfordus on 15 October 2013, 06:58:39 am
I'm known locally for getting the max mpg out of bikes (tight arse) so they want me to take it out for a couple of hours to see if I can get it into the 60's (my 800GS was up in the 80's riding how I ride :rolleyes )
If it does then the 14 litre tank will be enough for 90% of the people out there !. It won't be a popular touring bike even with the comfort seat, rack/topbox and pannier rails and bags they have in the marketing blurb and now on-line too. It's light beyond belief, fully fueled up you can move it about one handed, picking it up off the sidestand. No centre stand which is a downer for me and always on my list of must haves on all my previous bikes.
I'll get back to you on the test ride report as and when. :D
Post by: Gnasher on 15 October 2013, 09:03:32 pm
ER-6n
Z800
NC700S
Diavel
And worst of all XT660Z Tenere looks like it's hit a wall :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Something has gone very very wrong with front end bike styling of recent years :eek
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Post by: marcusfordus on 17 October 2013, 04:41:51 pm
I can say it's pretty hard to fault the MT I took out today. It had the little screen on and the touring seat, which might help the comfort a touch. The mode offerings are just a gimmick, cant really see the point of them, even in soft B mode the bike pulled up hills in fifth whereas my 1000 would be down to third on some of the lanes I was on.
Weight feels like half of what my gen 1 is and makes it a delight to move around.
Here's the best bit... these roads are ones I use often so I ride them the same no matter what bike I'm on. My bike would be doing 45-50 mpg on the same day at the same temperature, the MT was doing 68.1mpg, so even with a little 14 litre tank it can break 200 miles to a tank. I took it back to the dealers and they were most happy that their new bike, not fully broken in yet achieved that figure.
The $1000,000 question is "would I buy one " ?
YES, for sure, but you can't help but think this peach of an engine will get used in and even better frame with longer travel suspension before too long, and that would be the bike for me !
Go test ride one, it's a really good bike, honest.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/marcusfordus/IMG_20131017_122506_zpsccfacd8c.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/marcusfordus/IMG_20131017_130143_zpscf15b156.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/marcusfordus/IMG_20131017_142150_zpsfc17c3dd.jpg)
Post by: fazersharp on 17 October 2013, 05:20:21 pm
Post by: esetest on 17 October 2013, 06:24:26 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 17 October 2013, 06:33:07 pm
Post by: Phil on 17 October 2013, 06:57:01 pm
Nice pic and interesting MPG figures.
YES, for sure, but you can't help but think this peach of an engine will get used in and even better frame with longer travel suspension before too long, and that would be the bike for me !
I'm waiting to see what else they use it in too. A decent 1/2 fairing on the bike as it is would suit me. I wish they would announce now whats in the pipeline instead of this wait and see game.
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 17 October 2013, 07:05:57 pm
Post by: Phil on 17 October 2013, 07:10:21 pm
There is the Suzuki V-Strom in the shops soon, thats got my interest, but its a fair bit more dosh.
Post by: marcusfordus on 17 October 2013, 08:34:44 pm
With it being a naked bike there was a lot of wind hitting my knees, far more than my fazer or F800 come to think of it.
It has an idiots kill switch (sprung loaded)
The mirrors are crystal clear and vibe free, such is the smoothness of the engine.
The digi-display does not reflect hi-viz back at you so you can actually see the neutral and indicator warning lights (Gen 1 trait and hi-viz wearing bod that I am ).
It has the lowest dipstick in the world, and the worst seat lock position ever ( it's under a cap beneath the rear mudguard).
I had no shoulder/arm/wrist ache after a constant 2 hours of riding ( I said it fitted me well in the showroom seat test).
Yamaha have followed BMW and Triumph and made everything an extra, where I would expect it to be standard fitment (flyscreen, radiator side covers for example).
There is space under the seat on the non-ABS bikes just behind the tank where the unit would have gone that could be useful storage.
The standard Dunlop tyres would never be my 1st choice of rubber but they didn't step out of line at all on the muddy lanes I was on.
No vibrations through the pegs or bars at any rpm wearing the same gloves as I always wear (this has got to be a miracle 8) )
I could have ridden it all day given a larger bladder (CMC's cafe has big cups and should not be taken lightly)
It sounds like I've talked myself into getting one, as I liked so much of the ride today, (the Mrs is OK with it too as long as my Fazer gets sold first) if you order one now you might get it for January :eek seems everyone wants one too !
Post by: stevierst on 17 October 2013, 09:26:37 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 17 October 2013, 09:59:36 pm
Post by: locksmith on 18 October 2013, 09:18:17 am
Post by: fazersharp on 18 October 2013, 10:39:18 am
Gravesend yammy dealer has had 2 demo bikes - both crashed I've just found out :eekSpeaking of which---- thems that have had a test ride, or on other bikes, what deposit or insurance excess did you have to pay the dealer befor the ride, and if you bin it is that lost.
Post by: marcusfordus on 18 October 2013, 12:19:49 pm
I got the trade in value of my 2005 gen 1 by email this morning. £1600. Yikes. Anyone need a cheap Fazer?
Post by: fazersharp on 19 October 2013, 11:25:58 am
No deposit to ride it, but the excess was £500 if you damage the bike.Yeh that is exactly what I was told and it put me off. If I was dead serious about buying then maybe but at the same time with £500 at the back of my mind I aint gonna give it a proper test. But I aint buying without a test but im not serious BUT I might me if I had a go but I aint having a go for the risk of £500.
Anyway what's that all about - if I was to have a test drive in a car then no such excess involved. I wouldn't even mind paying a non refundable £25 damage wavier fee to cover for the £500
Post by: slimwilly on 19 October 2013, 01:27:18 pm
Is there two bikes or are the press getting mixed up with the Fazer line of bikes?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 19 October 2013, 01:34:02 pm
Post by: slimwilly on 19 October 2013, 01:36:46 pm
MT-09 designated FZ-09 in the States. I had similar confusion when reading about the "new Kwak Ninja 1000" on an American site. Ninja always meant to me a sports bike (ZX-6/9) but the Z1000 (new ones anyway) is apparently called a Ninja over there. It's a bike that seems to be blurring the lines of sports/sports tourer anyway.
Why don't you reply to your texts? :)
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 19 October 2013, 01:43:17 pm
Spent several years without a phone, a telly, internet.......you trying to drag me into the modern world too? :rolleyes
Post by: Dead Eye on 19 October 2013, 02:42:24 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 19 October 2013, 03:51:20 pm
Can't afford the modern world.
Post by: marcusfordus on 20 October 2013, 07:49:15 pm
Anyone looking for a FZS 1000 ? Give me a shout.
Post by: chaparral02 on 20 October 2013, 09:29:24 pm
I've been back today and ordered the ABS version for collection in January (if Yamaha have them here by then !)Your hoping to ride it home in the snow... :smokin
Post by: chaparral02 on 20 October 2013, 09:35:43 pm
I got the trade in value of my 2005 gen 1 by email this morning. £1600. Yikes. Anyone need a cheap Fazer?I remember only getting very close to around £1500 trade in offered for my 2002 gen1 against my brandnew FZ1 back in 2008.. :grumble
My local Honda dealer offered only around £1000 trade in against a brandnew CB1000r :thumbdown
Post by: locksmith on 21 October 2013, 09:42:20 am
I've been back today and ordered the ABS version for collection in January (if Yamaha have them here by then !)Your hoping to ride it home in the snow... :smokin
Bet you can't wait!
Is ABS worth the extra on a bike?
I was lookin at the one at my dealers that had a prang. Somehow someone has bottomed the sump out and pulled the oil drain plug out.
It had a big notice taped on it, DO NOT START NO OIL !!
But the thing that struck me is how small it looked. Previously I'd only seen it in the showroom but this was the first time outdoors with the bike on it's own.
Post by: ogri48 on 21 October 2013, 10:46:51 am
Post by: Phil on 21 October 2013, 08:04:29 pm
I was lookin at the one at my dealers that had a prang. Somehow someone has bottomed the sump out and pulled the oil drain plug out.
A known problem on Yamahas :lol
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Post by: taurus66 on 21 October 2013, 09:24:32 pm
Post by: marcusfordus on 21 October 2013, 11:01:11 pm
I don't do looks on bikes I choose them for how they ride. I've had some right stick over the years for my "choice" of bikes.
I like this bit of a tarted up version
Racing MT |
Post by: locksmith on 05 November 2013, 09:16:36 am
A lot less than I thought it would be!
Post by: stevierst on 05 November 2013, 01:12:21 pm
I agree it's fugly.STOP IT....JUST STOP IT!!!! I'm going to go to Raceways Yamaha and buy one in a minute, that looks ace!!!
I don't do looks on bikes I choose them for how they ride. I've had some right stick over the years for my "choice" of bikes.
I like this bit of a tarted up version
Post by: pitternator on 08 November 2013, 05:07:38 pm
About the only good thing is if its price stays at same level, it will be a credible alternative to the street...but I just hate the looks . It looks a complete bitsa IMHO.
You have to admire the triple engine config though for power torque and feel....its why I am so sold on triumphs triples. Will have to get me another for sure.!
Its almost embarassing though how Yamaha have tried to copy the street triple ....but they fooked up the looks....
Post by: JoeRock on 08 November 2013, 07:07:13 pm
Thanks for all the pictures and test ride reviews...but still am not sold on the looks. A street triple looks the part...a speed triple will kick the MT 09's ass everywhere.
About the only good thing is if its price stays at same level, it will be a credible alternative to the street...but I just hate the looks . It looks a complete bitsa IMHO.
You have to admire the triple engine config though for power torque and feel....its why I am so sold on triumphs triples. Will have to get me another for sure.!
Its almost embarassing though how Yamaha have tried to copy the street triple ....but they fooked up the looks....
Except the weight?
Post by: locksmith on 09 November 2013, 09:24:14 am
Don't know why, I've got no real reason I can state!
Post by: Phil on 09 November 2013, 09:37:22 am
Its almost embarassing though how Yamaha have tried to copy the street triple ....but they fooked up the looks....
Have Triumph got the monopoly on triples then?
I think the pre 2013 Street Triples are ugly bikes but still bought one. I quite like the looks of the MT09 overall.
Post by: jackojet on 09 November 2013, 09:45:40 am
Thanks for all the pictures and test ride reviews...but still am not sold on the looks. A street triple looks the part...a speed triple will kick the MT 09's ass everywhere.
About the only good thing is if its price stays at same level, it will be a credible alternative to the street...but I just hate the looks . It looks a complete bitsa IMHO.
You have to admire the triple engine config though for power torque and feel....its why I am so sold on triumphs triples. Will have to get me another for sure.!
Its almost embarassing though how Yamaha have tried to copy the street triple ....but they fooked up the looks....
Jon I had the chance to go for the MT09, its a nice bike for the price, but nowhere as nice as the Speed triple I chose, glad I spent the extra.
And now I have a speed triple, I do see why you rave on about them. Just put twin akra's on, you want to hear it.
Post by: mirdif64 on 09 November 2013, 12:55:29 pm
Post by: Bluecray on 09 November 2013, 02:59:25 pm
Quote from: pitternator linktonepic=10008.msg103803#msg103803 date=1380091023
Lock
If it is a 14 litre tank, most reserves are 4 litres. 10 litres at 9 miles /litre ( 45 mpg average) = 90 miles.!! :'(
That would fook me off, when my m8 on a street is getting 130 miles range before reserve light comes on .... :)
My Honda NC700 has 14 litres (under rear seat! ) and does 200 miles on a tank!
Post by: Bluecray on 09 November 2013, 03:01:38 pm
Lock
If it is a 14 litre tank, most reserves are 4 litres. 10 litres at 9 miles /litre ( 45 mpg average) = 90 miles.!! :'(
That would fook me off, when my m8 on a street is getting 130 miles range before reserve light comes on .... :)
Reviews are estimating it at 48 mpg so you're not too wide of the mark, I'd be filling up every 2 days. :\
My Honda NC700 has a 14 litre tank under rear seat! And does 200 miles a tank!!
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 November 2013, 04:10:19 pm