To be fair to May (and I find that very difficult) she was up shit street whatever option /proposal /result she came up with.
I've just fainted.....
The whole thing is about pragmatism.
QuoteThat the democratic decision be not only respected, but that everybody pulled together to make it work. But that is precisely where the problem lies.Firstly it is a referendum that should have never happened. It happened because the Tories offered it as a means to unite their party and kill UKIP – and it worked. They won the general election.In terms of making it work,Putting aside the disastrous campaign (LEAVE – absolute lies REMAIN – absolute fear) – nobody actually knew what BREXIT was – or rather what shape it would take. That came after the vote – when asked May told us it would be – a red white and blue BREXIT (ie she didn’t have a clue).She then focced up by going to the electorate – she did so in order to avoid the very situation that she is in now. But that didn’t work – and as a result she is in the hands of the DUP and parliament as a whole. And anyway the Tories might be in government – by the skin of their teeth – but they are split and out of control.But ultimately what you are asking the majority of MP’s in parliament to do OGRI is to vote to implement something that they wholeheartedly and absolutely believe is not in the best interests of their constituents or the country as a whole. And then there is Ireland.David Cameron offered you this referendum cos he knew the country would reject BREXIT. He was so confident he never even bothered to consider the consequences, should he turn out to be wrong. Doh! Doh doh doh doh!I believe these may well be the first few days of a country in a full-blown crisis. I hope not, but it’s looking like it.
That the democratic decision be not only respected, but that everybody pulled together to make it work.
If the SNP is smart, they will be manoeuvring behind the scenes to back Brexit (they cannot be seen to be doing this).
That way, they'll be able to call for another independence referendum, which will go massively in their favour.
An independent Scotland will be able to waltz back into the arms of the EU.
All the European nations must think we are all absolutely mad.
They will if we accept May's deal.
May is something of a survivor. But how much longer?Her government is in ruins, the deal is dead in the water and pariamentary defeat looms.She sure puts a brave face on it.
I have come to the conclusion that the UK cannot do an acceptable deal with the EU. The only reason the EU stays in the negotiations must be that they are hoping to gain complete jurisdiction over all the UK's affairs. To me, that will always be unacceptable.
Quote from: VNA on Today at 05:51:37 PM<blockquote>All the European nations must think we are all absolutely mad. </blockquote>Never truer words spoken
I've kept out of this so far. Just to prove a point. And I was gonna continue to keep out of it, and anyway the title of the thread pisses me off.But;
So.......What happened to make you sell your principles up the river....Did you become a politician ?
A thread Just for VNA..... fuck off
QuoteSo.......What happened to make you sell your principles up the river....Did you become a politician ? May I quote Tommy again.QuoteA thread Just for VNA..... fuck off Youse lot just love it.
Had everyone respected the decision, then things may have turned out differently.