Quote from: YamFazFan on 27 April 2019, 12:06:58 pmSo what's your solution to the hardened career criminals to whom it's a way of life and where nothing works to stop the offending?."Ladies and Gentlemen. In my pocket I have a sealed envelope with 'Predictable Questions' written on it..."Restorative Justice is, of course, not suitable for all cases. However for RJ to work in the first place, cases have to be passed over to it and there has to be sufficient funding for it to operate.
So what's your solution to the hardened career criminals to whom it's a way of life and where nothing works to stop the offending?.
"Ladies and Gentlemen. In my pocket I have a sealed envelope with 'Predictable Answers' (or rather the lack of) written on it...."
Quote from: YamFazFan on 28 April 2019, 07:19:17 pm"Ladies and Gentlemen. In my pocket I have a sealed envelope with 'Predictable Answers' (or rather the lack of) written on it...."ITYM "Answers that address the topic instead of the straw man argument I tried to use..."
I had written a rant on this subject, however it's pointless sucking eggs. People DON'T change! There's good reason behind the term "repeat offender". It's in their makeup, their brain is wired that (wrong) way... none of which can be changed! Given an opportunity where they believe they wont get caught... they'd go do it again. All vices the same, burglars, sex offenders, murderers, etc...Plus the only reason they say they are stopping IS because they got caught... have been exposed... publicly branded.Once the dust settles they go back to their "old habits" however try to cover their tracks even better, the next time round!...Ironic, we are on a motorcycle forum discussing our pride and joy with a motorbike thief!... infact it gets better, he'd happily remove the contents of your house at the same time! Great! ...sorry if I also caused offence to any sex offenders reading this too!
Don’t hold back F4celess, just say what you mean fella.
OK - will sum it up... People don't change. Better?
Quote from: darrsi on 29 April 2019, 01:34:04 pmDon’t hold back F4celess, just say what you mean fella.OK - will sum it up... People don't change. Better?
Quote from: F4celess on 29 April 2019, 01:36:18 pmOK - will sum it up... People don't change. Better?Fine, so let's just lock them up for life... no, wait, that's too expensive, let's just hang them insted.Oh, just a moment, that was tried with the Bloody Code (see my link above) and that didn't work...
Quote from: Grahamm on 29 April 2019, 05:44:32 pmQuote from: F4celess on 29 April 2019, 01:36:18 pmOK - will sum it up... People don't change. Better?Fine, so let's just lock them up for life... no, wait, that's too expensive, let's just hang them insted.Oh, just a moment, that was tried with the Bloody Code (see my link above) and that didn't work...Obviously being hypothetical, how can hanging not work, name me one person who was hanged who committed a crime again?
Ah well, was briefly an interesting discussion, but hey ho, here come the usual trolls and wind up merchants.
Obviously being hypothetical, how can hanging not work, name me one person who was hanged who committed a crime again?
I am all for a mandatory DNA database where a sample of everyone's DNA is on file.
Ooooo a despots dream.
Isn't it just. That was my first thought.
Quote from: darrsi on 29 April 2019, 06:45:25 pmObviously being hypothetical, how can hanging not work, name me one person who was hanged who committed a crime again? Yawn. Is that the most intelligent comment you can come up with?Ever read Judge Dredd in 2000AD? In that series, they created a parallel Earth with a character called Judge Death who reasoned that, since all crime was committed by living people, if they killed everyone, there would be no more crime...
You're quoting from a comic?
Quote from: darrsi on 30 April 2019, 09:59:48 pmYou're quoting from a comic? Nice deflection.I suggest you look up the word "satire".Meanwhile, I see the discussion is taking a hard-right turn, so enjoy yourselves planning on turning the country into a fascist state...