brake pad question

[crickleymal]

I have these calipers on the front. (attachment).
Do they take standard FZS600 brake pads?

[unfazed]

Short answer, yes

[crickleymal]

Ta.

[BBROWN1664]

Being standard FZS600 callipers, I would hope they take the standard pads.

[unfazed]

Being standard FZS600 callipers, I would hope they take the standard pads.

 

[crickleymal]

Being standard FZS600 callipers, I would hope they take the standard pads.

I didn't know they were standard. They looked like some Blue Spots I saw once, which were an upgrade on, say, a Divvy or a ZZR.

[BBROWN1664]

They are the standard caliper on the FZS600 which is one of the things that make these bikes so damn good.

[Paulfzs]

Long answer: Yes they do take standard fzs 600 brake pads, they are used as upgrades for bikes such as the divvy and zzr, blue spots on the fazer are what make this bike that little bit greater than most.


You'll find they have good progressive breaking as well as a good sharp stop when you need that little extra bite.


They need little maintenance, thats not to say they need none but a clean once every 6 months seems to keep them in top top shape.


Simply order the required pads (standard fzs 600 pads), remove the calipers, pull out the R clips, slide the pin out and fit the new pads.


This is a 5 minute job and takes little mechanical knowledge to do.


Hope that helps.

[Val]

just to add popular pads are OEMs,

EBC:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141167205311?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

and Galfer: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141532460947?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[darrsi]

Long answer: Yes they do take standard fzs 600 brake pads, they are used as upgrades for bikes such as the divvy and zzr, blue spots on the fazer are what make this bike that little bit greater than most.


You'll find they have good progressive breaking as well as a good sharp stop when you need that little extra bite.


They need little maintenance, thats not to say they need none but a clean once every 6 months seems to keep them in top top shape.


Simply order the required pads (standard fzs 600 pads), remove the calipers, pull out the R clips, slide the pin out and fit the new pads.


This is a 5 minute job and takes little mechanical knowledge to do.


Hope that helps.

Putting new pads in involves having to push the pistons back into the caliper.
Soooooo, you should really be giving the pistons a good scrub with a toothbrush and brake cleaner, then carefully smearing red rubber grease all around the outer of the pistons before pushing them back in so the pads will fit. This will stop any unwanted debris being pushed into the seals too.
Degrease the pad springs, clean up the pad pins with wire wool THEN put back together.
So the next time when you go to clean the caliper up approximately 6-8 months later, and do exactly the same procedure again as above, then nothing will be seized up, and everyone will be happy.   

[crickleymal]

Yes that's what I was going to do plus a fluid change as I don't know when it was last changed.

[darrsi]

Yes that's what I was going to do plus a fluid change as I don't know when it was last changed.

Be patient when bleeding the brakes, it can take a while before they feel right.


Once done if you tie the front lever back over night it can eek out any missed bubbles and they'll rise to the top, just to give it that extra bite.


If possible put the bike on the centre stand, turn the steering to the side to level the master cylinder and just loosen the cap screws so the lid isn't air tight so that any excess bubbles will rise to the top easier.
I normally shove a load of rag around it too to avoid any damage from possible spillage.


And i know it sounds daft but i'll put something on my bike as a blatant reminder that those screws are loose and need tightening before moving the steering.

[Deefer666]

I would be more concerned with the fact that you are still running the original rubber hoses when manufacturer recommend they be changed after 4-5 years. Given that the newest FZS600 is now 13 years old I would say they are well past the sell by date.

[darrsi]

I would be more concerned with the fact that you are still running the original rubber hoses when manufacturer recommend they be changed after 4-5 years. Given that the newest FZS600 is now 13 years old I would say they are well past the sell by date.

Blimey, well spotted.


Crickleymal, add some braided hoses to your Xmas wish list. 

[crickleymal]

Can't afford braided hoses at the moment, so many other more urgent things to spend money on. I'm still waiting on a reply from the local Yamaha dealer with a price for brake hoses. Absolutely no sense of urgency or even promptness there, it can take 2 weeks for a reply.

Anyway brakes are now clean, brake fluid replaced, red rubber grease applied judiciously and the padfs bedded in. Much better!

[Jules-C]

Brake clean and bleed can make an amazing difference

[Billy Balthorpe]

This business about standard hoses, don't cars have the same hoses fitted? They are exposed to more road crap than our nice clean standard hoses and they don't get replaced after 5 or 6 years. Im not saying that braided aren't better, but I replace mine if the brake is spongy and ive ruled out master cylinder probs first. Actually, I prefer not to change the rear ones unless they are obviously U.S. My way of thinking is that you use the front brakes with your hand so you have a lot of "feel", and after fitting braided, the amount of movement from off to on is reduced, its almost down to how much pressure you put on them even though the lever doesn't move much. With the rear, you are operating it with a big boot on your foot, so not much "feel" and ive found that the extra "sponginess" of the standard hoses can help with hard braking by avoiding the rear locking up as it would do with the "switch" feel you get with braided.

Not wishing to start an argument here, but as long as standard hoses feel good and work well I don't think they need to be replaced unless you just want the "bling" factor.   

[unfazed]

I also prefer the feel of the standard hoses for road use, I had braided ones and took them off after a few months.

The only problem is that Yamaha no longer do the 600 front lower hoses, however the 1000 ones will suffice. I feel the same and check my rubber ones regularly and as long as the rubber ones have no cracks or bulges and still feel good I am happy enough with them.

[fazersharp]

This business about standard hoses, don't cars have the same hoses fitted? They are exposed to more road crap than our nice clean standard hoses and they don't get replaced after 5 or 6 years. Im not saying that braided aren't better, but I replace mine if the brake is spongy and ive ruled out master cylinder probs first. Actually, I prefer not to change the rear ones unless they are obviously U.S. My way of thinking is that you use the front brakes with your hand so you have a lot of "feel", and after fitting braided, the amount of movement from off to on is reduced, its almost down to how much pressure you put on them even though the lever doesn't move much. With the rear, you are operating it with a big boot on your foot, so not much "feel" and ive found that the extra "sponginess" of the standard hoses can help with hard braking by avoiding the rear locking up as it would do with the "switch" feel you get with braided.

Not wishing to start an argument here, but as long as standard hoses feel good and work well I don't think they need to be replaced unless you just want the "bling" factor.   

I fitted front braided a few years ago and love em.
But the back is standard and almost 18 years old  , the fluid was changed as was the pads about 10 years ago and the pads are still only half worn, but on the other hand I only do 1k miles per year.
Im with you on the back brake thinking, the reason I have not put braided on the back is because I don't want it to be too good, im thinking I should replace it but can I get hold of a new standard rear one ?. Or if I fit braided what are crap no bite pads could I fit to compensate ?

[Billy Balthorpe]

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 Or if I fit braided what are crap no bite pads could I fit to compensate ?
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Nice comment, my thoughts exactly.

[unfazed]

Organic pads 

[darrsi]

EBC Organic pads are soft as shite, but will create a bit more dust as they wear so you need to maintain the caliper "at least" once a year, nothing major just a scrub up with brake cleaner and a toothbrush around the exposed pistons, then protect with more red rubber grease to prevent any siezing up.

[fazersharp]

EBC Organic pads are soft as shite, but will create a bit more dust as they wear so you need to maintain the caliper "at least" once a year, nothing major just a scrub up with brake cleaner and a toothbrush around the exposed pistons, then protect with more red rubber grease to prevent any siezing up.

Hmmm don't like the sound of all that dust as it also gets itself all over the wheel, but I actually don't know what is in there now as a bike shop did it for me about 10 years ago and I wasn't as knowledgeable back then as I am now about all the different pad options (thanks to this forum) . I would of thought they just put cheep ones in, so I already could have ebc organics, so a new braided line would still be better than I want   

[darrsi]

EBC Organic pads are soft as shite, but will create a bit more dust as they wear so you need to maintain the caliper "at least" once a year, nothing major just a scrub up with brake cleaner and a toothbrush around the exposed pistons, then protect with more red rubber grease to prevent any siezing up.

Hmmm don't like the sound of all that dust as it also gets itself all over the wheel, but I actually don't know what is in there now as a bike shop did it for me about 10 years ago and I wasn't as knowledgeable back then as I am now about all the different pad options (thanks to this forum) . I would of thought they just put cheep ones in, so I already could have ebc organics, so a new braided line would still be better than I want   

It's all down to how you ride, I prefer a bit of bite on the rear when I'm in traffic just for control purposes, which is most days as it's a commuter bike for me.

[fazersharp]

Maybe I will just put a bit of oil on the disc