The Jock vote

[locksmith]

I can hear him snoring from here

[slimwilly]

Rebuild the wall

[unfazed]

Since the Yes vote failed, you should now look to scrap the "one man one vote system" and go to "the Proportional Representation Voting System" this will ensure that only those voted by the majority will get into power. In the present system you could and have a government that majority of the people did not vote for. 
Unfortunately Scotland will always be at a disadvantage since there are 10 times more people eligible to vote in England than in Scotland.
I believe fear of the unknown won in the end, there was a lot of scaremongery going on in the last few weeks.

Why not do like they did in a referendum or two we had in the Republic of Ireland, keep voting till they get it right

[bigbluebear]

Rebuild the wall

Every time I pass it I donate another brick to it

[VNA - BMW Wank]

I can hear him snoring from here

I wish.  Something wrong with the whisky today.    Not yet, but soon.

Keep it upright!

[peterjca]

I can hear him snoring from here

I wish.  Something wrong with the whisky today.    Not yet, but soon.

Keep it upright!

Hiv ye sobered up noo? Ye're spikking some sense fan p*ssed ye ken.

I'm disappointed (would have voted Yes if I still lived there -- will be going back to the homeland in the future).

So westminster have a few months to put their promises on paper. Can't see how that can possibly happen. There's so much complexity involved.

As for May 2015... I'm sure Cameron will be ousted then, if not by his own party. Millipede is an empty container of vacuous platitudes and still seems unaware that labour will not regain their foothold in Scotland. Clegg and co will be wiped off the face of the earth. Farage will be nowhere. Another hung parliament of idiotic, self-interested and out-of-touch morons beckons.

However, the people's assault on democracy is only just beginning really....

[lew600fazer]

Tories are so bad? how come the UK has the fastest growing economy in the EU

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Hiv ye sobered up noo? Ye're spikking some sense fan p*ssed ye ken.

Got tae bed I think 13.30 couldnae stand up basically. 

However, the people's assault on democracy is only just beginning really....

Umm still drunk.

Ach foc it, will post crap anyway.

Labour accused the 44.6 of bullying and intimidation. 

I voted Labour at the last general election.  There is no fucking way I will ever vote Labour again.

Labour is finished in Scotland. 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Democracy can work for the people.

And not just in Scotland - right across the UK.

Wake up folks.

No not UKIP ya plonkers

[Doddsie]

WOW...... so many political experts all in one place!!

[Grahamm]

Tories are so bad? how come the UK has the fastest growing economy in the EU

Sure.

Oh yeah.

Of course.

Yeah, right...

[Slaninar]

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Tories are so bad? how come the UK has the fastest growing economy in the EU

And who's better off?  It's a low wage, minimum wage, zero hours, shit terms and conditions plus claim benefits economy.  And the rich pay no tax.

Think about this, the nationalist SNP heartlands failed to deliver YES votes. 

The Unionist Labour strongholds delivered YES votes.

The old and monied carried this NO vote.

The Tories were wiped oot years ago in Scotland, now the New Tories are about to suffer the same fate.

[BIG MAC]

So many seem to have missed the simplicity of the situation, There is a country up the road which is entirely self sufficient already but this in part is due to a formula which sees Scotland have about 95% of 'it's' income returned to it. Therefore 'cost neutral' to the rest of the UK. However Scotland does share some institutions..passport office, DVLA, HMRC etc and of course the armed forces. In independence these element would need to be sourced or funded from a 'new pot' of money. The easiest way to achieve this is not to have any debt and an Independent Scotland could have said 'screw you' but still legally demand it's reserves in gold from BoE. The real opportunity missed here was for England and others to ride hard on the heels of a Scottish victory and demand an English Parliament. Labour would be goosed (not that they aren't at the mo with the most chinless pseudo Cameron at the helm) Cameron would be Gone, You would likely have a Farage / Boris Johnson combo taking you out of Europe...They wouldn't get there but what would follow would likely be various coalitions which tends to work ok in Germany. Instead the supposedly Socialist Scots have voted for the neo liberal twerps in Westminster and have assured you of a continuation of their pocket lining (for them) austerity, sickeningly inhumane policies, and general poncing about on the World stage wasting your money. Any which way..'The promise' will be defaulted upon because it has to be..although there will be some smoke and mirrors pretence. But know this ...if any region of the UK gets any more devolved powers as a result of this..Then you have that man Alex Salmond and the YES voters to thank. That so many of my countryfolk are prepared to bend the knee to Westminster embarrasses me. Some wags have said 'The English should have voted' If it led to an Independent Scotland..I would agree,

[JoeRock]

Tories are so bad? how come the UK has the fastest growing economy in the EU

Not just the EU - according to the IMF (who I'm going to have to say, are probably one of the best sources for info on this type of matter), we're one of the fastest growing developed economies in the entire world:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10988849/UK-has-fastest-growing-economy-International-Monetary-Fund-says.html

[BIG MAC]

Because we are growing from flat bottom broke

[Razgruff]

Victorians had a fast growing economy, and that's the type of economy the Tories want.
No protections for workers, no Health service etc. They are slowly dismantling all the gains the working classes have made since then.

growing economies don't always mean a rise in living standards for the majority.

[lew600fazer]

So most agree then that the UK has the fastest growing economy, check the unemployed statistics for the rest of Europe and wage levels. Hello this all part of being in the EU and eastern european nationals coming into western europe and dragging wage levels down and unemployment up
Better to have an economy that is on the way up than like say France which is still slipping backwards.

53.9% of Spanish natationals under the age of 29 are unemployed what is for the UK?

I am not a fan of the Tories but it took new labour and the banks to drop us all in the shit

[Slaninar]

Victorians had a fast growing economy, and that's the type of economy the Tories want.
No protections for workers, no Health service etc. They are slowly dismantling all the gains the working classes have made since then.

growing economies don't always mean a rise in living standards for the majority.

Exactly. Productivity has risen 100 times in the last 100 years. That means a man can make as much trousers/cars/shoes...youNameIt in one hour as they used to make in 100 hours. Which should mean we should all work 4 hours a day and provide everyone with enough of everything. This, however, would rule out anyone being rich, having a 100.000 car etc.


I grew up in a socialism country - on its way towards communism, as the final goal. You had free education, free health care. You could not buy an expensive car. There were like one model of jeans to buy. But everyone had a place to live, trousers and shoes to wear, work, vacation, days off etc. That was a lot better than now. For ordinary working people. For those people who know how to buy for 11 and sell for 21, how to "manage" etc - for them it is better now, but vast majority lives a lot worse. But now we have streets full of expensive cars, we have "freedom" - but you have to dress the way boss wants, talk and smile the way they want (that is also mandatory for those working with customers, rules like you have to smile so 6 front teeeth show - no wider, no less) etc.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Some interesting posts.

I am not a fan of the Tories but it took new labour and the banks to drop us all in the shit

Because Maggie's greatest achievement was Tony Blair.

[unfazed]

Some interesting posts.

I am not a fan of the Tories but it took new labour and the banks to drop us all in the shit

Because Maggie's greatest achievement was Tony Blair.

 

[midden]

 it took new labour and the banks to drop us all in the shit

This statement always makes me chuckle.
 I actually think I benefited from the 'Goodtimes' by saving any excess earnings created from it. Mostly though I think it was because I wasn't carried away with all the offers of easy loans and credit cards'  If anything I took advantage by composting the leaflets of temptation which kept coming through the door  [size=78%] [/size]
 

[lew600fazer]

 it took new labour and the banks to drop us all in the shit

This statement always makes me chuckle.
 I actually think I benefited from the 'Goodtimes' by saving any excess earnings created from it. Mostly though I think it was because I wasn't carried away with all the offers of easy loans and credit cards'  If anything I took advantage by composting the leaflets of temptation which kept coming through the door 

Best thing I ever did during the good times was to make over payments on my monthly mortgage repayments, saved me ££££ and knocked about 4 years of the mortgage term. One of the best days of my life when I made that last payment. Then I used to recycle all the offers from banks, building societies, etc! wanting to lend me money as I had a good credit rating.
Sold me big house , family up and gone, have got a  nice two bed two bath appartment in the UK and also bought this place in Spain

[lew600fazer]

Well I was under the impression that after the NO vote Salmond fell on his sword and resigned. Watching the news today I see he is still stirring the shit, why does he just not feck off lick his wounds and write his memiors, class A knob

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Well I was under the impression that after the NO vote Salmond fell on his sword and resigned.

Yes he has fallen on his sword.  No he has not resigned, he announced his resignation and will stand down at the SNP party conference in due course.  Meanwhile he is still first minister of Scotland.

why does he just not feck off lick his wounds and write his memiors, class A knob

He hasn't got any wounds to lick.  Wee Eck has achieved more for Scotland than any other politician in recent history.

He still the most talented politician in the UK by a country mile, and the most popular politician in Scotland.  Oh yes many who don't like him despise him, hate him, but many more respect him.

What he is talking about (haven't seen the sky news thing) I would guess, is turning the 45% into SNP votes, perhaps increasing that figure.  That would be sensational, that would give the SNP most of the Scottish seats at Westminster and a big solid majority at the Scottish Parliament.  He's talking about, I think, making the impossible the norm.

It's certainly what many on the streets are talking about.

This is not over.