Quote from: VNA on 16 September 2014, 11:35:59 pmQuoteIt was the Solid Trade Unions that fucked the country up in the first place. Upper Clyde Ship Builders, for years with their strikes , late delivery of ships and build quality was a fucking joke. Trust me I can comment on the quality of ships built on the Clyde , Belfast and also the Tyne ship yards absolute shite.Do you wanna ken a country that has Solid Trade Unions? Germany. It has a strong unionised labour force, some of the best terms and working conditions in the world. And you know what, they protected their industry. Think of cars, VW, AUDI, BMW, Porsche. Wages terms and conditions that workers in the UK can only dream of now.Sir John Harvey Jones, said, I think;There is no such thing as bad industrial relations - only bad management.Ironic that in your defence of the workers, you cite someone that turfed a third of the ICI workforce onto the dole in order to boost ICI's profits....
QuoteIt was the Solid Trade Unions that fucked the country up in the first place. Upper Clyde Ship Builders, for years with their strikes , late delivery of ships and build quality was a fucking joke. Trust me I can comment on the quality of ships built on the Clyde , Belfast and also the Tyne ship yards absolute shite.Do you wanna ken a country that has Solid Trade Unions? Germany. It has a strong unionised labour force, some of the best terms and working conditions in the world. And you know what, they protected their industry. Think of cars, VW, AUDI, BMW, Porsche. Wages terms and conditions that workers in the UK can only dream of now.Sir John Harvey Jones, said, I think;There is no such thing as bad industrial relations - only bad management.
It was the Solid Trade Unions that fucked the country up in the first place. Upper Clyde Ship Builders, for years with their strikes , late delivery of ships and build quality was a fucking joke. Trust me I can comment on the quality of ships built on the Clyde , Belfast and also the Tyne ship yards absolute shite.
Only taken a glancing interest in this and had no idea which way I would vite if I was Scottish but I have just been listening to the news and the chap mentioned that the voter total in Scotland is only 4% of the total number of voters in the UK. This statement set my mind racing and a quick look at the population figures on line my maths puts the scottish population at 8% of the Uk. So having just watched a chap on a ferry delivering one lot of ballet papers and talk of the votes being collected by airplanes it strikes me it is a large country to be giving the full Uk services ( roads' Hospital services' postal system etc) the per head could be very high. I think if I was Scottish I would have to be very pissed off with the UK to want to risk breaking away.
Thankfully we now seem to have decent industrail relatiions in the UK,, The car industry is going from strength to strength, both management and the workforce realise they have to produce a decent product on budget and on time.
Tomorrow the establishment of The United Kingdom will lose a big chunk of their union and it will be primarily down to arrogance and a lack of respect.
I think a large chunk of the union will leave Scotland in droves to live South of the border.
Good luck with whatever currency you end up with by the way.
Whatever it is will devalue nicely and soon enough I'll be looking to buy another holiday home in Tomintoul for next to nothing.
I might be sounding unkind, but then I apparently have a lack of 'respect' so I might as well.
Quote from: chris.biker on 17 September 2014, 06:27:45 pmOnly taken a glancing interest in this and had no idea which way I would vite if I was Scottish but I have just been listening to the news and the chap mentioned that the voter total in Scotland is only 4% of the total number of voters in the UK. This statement set my mind racing and a quick look at the population figures on line my maths puts the scottish population at 8% of the Uk. So having just watched a chap on a ferry delivering one lot of ballet papers and talk of the votes being collected by airplanes it strikes me it is a large country to be giving the full Uk services ( roads' Hospital services' postal system etc) the per head could be very high. I think if I was Scottish I would have to be very pissed off with the UK to want to risk breaking away.And yet you're happy for a handful of eton toffs and banksters to hold the UK's 60 million population to ransom?
Thing is, NO needs 60% plus to bury YES for a while.YES needs 51% to bury NO for good.
If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.
QuoteIf the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.How do you figure that?