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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: red98 on 17 May 2014, 07:05:43 pm
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Ok guys, I need a bit of help :).....ive got a bit of a wobble as I accelerate at about 70mph like a small tank slap can ride through it but is spoiling my ride....new tyres approx 1000 miles ago.forks and rear spring on factory settings, iam 12st so about average.........iam not hot on suspension so need a bit of help, going to check head and wheel bearings tomorrow, is there anything else I should be looking at ?
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The noggyfighter gets a proper wobble on at similar speeds when changing gear under load...like the front end is real light & i have to lean over the tank to stop it...but it is light though coz ive got no front end.......probably no good to you whatsoever then but jus sayin Red.
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Cheers for your input mr nog.......your right.no foccing use to me whatsoever :lol......thats another difference between the 6 and thou, my 6 jumps about all over the place when pushing hard, the thous weight helps with stability which I like....dont like the wobble though........had another thought, wonder if ive lost a balance weight off the rim .......
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red did nt you just do the rear wheel bearings? I would be checking round that area.!
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Yes, new bearing in the week, I noticed the wobble before I changed the bearing, will go back and double check though ;)
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Check the wheel alignment. Check steering head bearings aren't too tight. Tyre pressures.
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+ one for wheel alignment, plus check wheel balance. Another thing is try relaxing your grip on the bars, holding on too tight can cause similar reactions.
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Cheers chaps, working tomorrow with time off mid-day, will see if I can get out to the garage and give the old girl a good going over :rolleyes
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It could be the Plish and Romainian children you are running over in High Wycome,,or even Pakistanis :lol
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I had a real wobble/weave on today going to work this morning but it didn't get bad till I hit 130, I put it down to the Draggin' jeans flapping and my oversized back pack. I must admit I've not checked my tyre pressures for a month or 2.
Mickey
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The O ring on my right fork cap sprung a leak last year which I didn't fix for ages. Caused a very pronounced wobble when giving the bike full throttle at high speeds. Cured as soon as I topped up the fork oil & fitted a new O ring.
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If the front's going light you could try jacking the back up or lowering the front 10 millimetres........ just a thought.
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Check your weeble nut. I know for a fact that weebles wobble.
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cheers exup.....focu`s no1 nut expert :lol ....it may wobble but it dos`nt fall down :lol .....showing your age there old man :rolleyes
grahamb....good point about the fork oil,was planning on changing it before my summer tour,thanks for the remininder ;)
mick-h....all suspension on stock settings at the moment,thinking about dropping the forks to sharpen things up a bit...
off to work shortly but should be back by 11....i`ll have a little fazer fettling then :)
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It could be the Plish and Romainian children you are running over in High Wycome,,or even Pakistanis :lol
you could be right there slim...to make matters worse i rode through SLOUGH yesterday onto the A4 and upto EARLS COURT :lol
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It could be the Plish and Romainian children you are running over in High Wycome,,or even Pakistanis :lol
you could be right there slim...to make matters worse i rode through SLOUGH yesterday onto the A4 and upto EARLS COURT :lol
Living in Brum haven't a clue what you mean! :lol
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firstly"..hope this isnt a sequel to the stuttering 6?...the wobbling thou"?...anyway,..i had the very same from my fjr and that turned out to be the head bearings"...but i also had a tank slap on my bandit 12 and that was down to the swinging arm bearings?... :rolleyes ....so i will go for rear suspension bearings fkd or siezed cus ime bound to be wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
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Had a quick look......tyre pressures ok, wheel bearings ok, head bearings ok....wheel alignment slightly out on the marks, will use a long straight edge later to make sure......think I'll strip the rear end down to check swingarm bearings, I can clean and lube the shock link at the same time, not been done for a couple of years :rolleyes......forks seam a bit hard and slow to bounce back so an oil change will be good.......tyres as good as new with no damage, only done about 1000 miles, wheel balance ok and all weights present........might make a start this afternoon, or as its a nice day get the mountain bikes out and take my son down the local park and raid the ice cream man. :lol
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Had a quick look......tyre pressures ok, wheel bearings ok, head bearings ok....wheel alignment slightly out on the marks, will use a long straight edge later to make sure......think I'll strip the rear end down to check swingarm bearings, I can clean and lube the shock link at the same time, not been done for a couple of years :rolleyes ......forks seam a bit hard and slow to bounce back so an oil change will be good.......tyres as good as new with no damage, only done about 1000 miles, wheel balance ok and all weights present........might make a start this afternoon, or as its a nice day get the mountain bikes out and take my son down the local park and raid the ice cream man. :lol
Although an oil change will probably need doing mate, you'll need to proper clean the forks out as well - usually when oil goes off it goes thinner, so you lose damping, but I have heard of cases where the oil flow valves have got bunged up with crap if the oil hasn't been changed for a long time and need cleaning out!
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Cheers joe...not done a fork re build for a long long time....will have to do some homework before I start ;)
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Nice evening for a bit of fazer fettling :).......took the swinging arm off...shock linkage all ok, a bit grubby but ok, will give it a clean and re-lube.....ive got a bit of play in the swinging arm bearings, not sure how much is acceptable but will change them to make sure...wemoto list a kit for £28 +p&p...makers name....slinky glide.....not heard of them before and not a term ive used for a very long time :lol
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bin that red dangly bit
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Steady on......that red dangly bit has served me well.........ah...your on about the shock aint you :o......when funds allow i'll pm you ;)
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Red...some geezers on here recommended me a bearing company, proper engineering place, i can concur that they are worthy....it was something like marksman, defo had like a target for its logo......anyhoo they were about 10 earth pounds each which is a good saving.
Ill try look for the receipt to save you endlessly searching through old threads.
Actually i may search "noggythenog" & swingarm & find the old post.
Just bear with me a little bit.
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This is the one
http://shop.marksman-ind.com/motorcycle-bearings-bikebearingscouk-2-c.asp (http://shop.marksman-ind.com/motorcycle-bearings-bikebearingscouk-2-c.asp)
Great to deal with
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Cheers UNFAZED......dont know whats happened to MR NOG.....parhaps hes lost his bearings :rollin
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Maybe he is outside looking for the spider to check the WEB site :lol
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Oh how i chortled :rollin :rollin :rollin
Sorry red.....i had to watch that bear gryls survival thing & then things happened....n stuff............unfazed was it you that recommended me them in the first place or did you just do a search?.......im sure it was you...if it was then sorry for not remembering......bad drills really aint it.
But has red saved any money....thats what counts.......fast bike discount
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Yeah, it was me, but it is ok, I can handle it.
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no probs MR NOG.......fazer thou not shown on web site,have emailed them,looking at the other yam bearings its looks like there will be a small saving.£4 ish for both....if i dont get a reply by tonight i`ll order from wemoto,they have them in stock and are quick to deliver ;)
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This is the one
[url]http://shop.marksman-ind.com/motorcycle-bearings-bikebearingscouk-2-c.asp[/url] ([url]http://shop.marksman-ind.com/motorcycle-bearings-bikebearingscouk-2-c.asp[/url])
Great to deal with
I used them for my r1 front end bearings. Ask for mark. Very helpful guy and they arrived the next day.
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mmmmmmmm.....look what i've got...
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Where is the collar/bush?
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Not included with this kit.....swing arm is a bit different to wheel spindle.wheel has center spacer and two sleeves/collars that run on the roller wheel bearing, on the swinging arm these three pieces are one.....old one was very good so I cleaned it up and re-lubed....
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Fitted the new bearings tonight.......my drift was'nt going to work, not enough room to get it in there, so I prised the rollers out and removed the plastic roller carrier from both sides I then used a length of 22mm copper tubing to knock the outer bearing casing out.....worked a treat :D.......cleaned everything up and pressed the bearings in square with my hands just to get them started, I then used a sash cramp to push them all the way in, then using a scoket slightly smaller than the bearing for the last little bit
Dropped the spindle in and no play what so ever ;).....will put it back on the bike tomorrow.
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You just cannot beat improvisation, it's the mother of invention. :)
Are you going to patent that bearing tool :lol
Are the frame rubbers covering the Spindle in good condition. Put some grease inside them to stop and water ingress and don't forget to grease the bearing covers.
Enjoy the test run tomorrow :)
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Pat applied for :lol....this time next year I'll be a millionaire :rollin......yep..both caps in vgc.....will be well greased, thanks for the tip....bearing covers already fitted and packed with grease..... :)
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Nice one Red, noticed a bit of play on my swing arm the other week, tightened up the nut and it's better but still a bit of play. Will refer to this post when I attempt mine. Cheers.
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hi dazza....its an easy job,bearings under £30....roller bearings , so nipping your nuts is not really going to work :\ ...all being well i`ll have it all back together tonight and have a test ride .....
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All back together tonight and out for a test ride....very smooth and stable :D.........well done CRH..for guessing correctly you have won a prize ;)
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All back together tonight and out for a test ride....very smooth and stable :D.........well done CRH..for guessing correctly you have won a prize ;)
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And the prize is the old set of swinging arm bearings :lol
Another happy foccer :lol
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All back together tonight and out for a test ride....very smooth and stable :D .........well done CRH..for guessing correctly you have won a prize ;)
....kin hell paul"...thats some lawn ya got there matey? :eek ....yes thanks for the applause" ;) ....think i deserve at least a fkn towbar though?...cus ya never sent me my last prize" after i diagnosed ya stuuter!!!!! :rolleyes .....
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yesssssss you lucky foccer....the towbars yours :lol :lol :lol .........not sure you diagnosed the stutter or not :rolleyes ...i`ll go back and re-read the "stuttering thread" and see.........see you in a couple of weeks :rollin :rollin
took that picture last night 9.30 at local park whilst on my test ride......poor quality as taken with phone and not much light.......thou looks good though ;) [size=78%] [/size]