Quote That is the ONLY bit I want to keep.But the UK can't just pick and choose the bits that suit them. What you can't also do, is agree a deal then come back at the 59th minute wanting to change it!
That is the ONLY bit I want to keep.
But the UK can't just pick and choose the bits that suit them
What you can't also do, is agree a deal then come back at the 59th minute wanting to change it!
because I don't like living under their jackboot any more than you like living under the English one
This cartoon you posted is proof that you really don't get it, you posted it as an anti brexit cartoon but totally failed to understand how leavers would see it.
Let me try and help you.
Take your loathing of the English and the hatread and contempt you so readily spew out against "Westminster" - actually doesn't matter to you which government sits there. Unfortunately for you Vladimir already has a job.
Well a lot of your reasons and thinking are the same as a lot of leavers but instead they are directed at the way the EU is run. Strange how a scots independence voter does not want to be ruled from "westminster" all of 400 miles away but perfectly happy to take rules from Brussels 700 miles away.
Quote from: fazersharp on 31 January 2019, 09:59:29 pmQuote from: VNA on 31 January 2019, 09:14:29 pmAnd then there is the nightmare of the Irish border.How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ? or Switzerland?
Quote from: VNA on 31 January 2019, 09:14:29 pmAnd then there is the nightmare of the Irish border.How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ?
And then there is the nightmare of the Irish border.
Scotland simply wants political independance
Quote from: VNA on 01 February 2019, 08:49:06 PM<blockquote>Quote<blockquote>MESSAGE FOR THE EU- Other countries cope and prosper outside the EU, why can't we?</blockquote> Message for BREXITEERS – why do you want to ignore the biggest single open seamless trading market in the world. A market that we have built, promoted and prospered from for some 45 years. A market that accounts for 25% of global GDP and is right on our doorstep. </blockquote>That is the ONLY bit I want to keep.
And then there is the nightmare of the Irish border. How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ?
Quote from: fazersharp on 31 January 2019, 09:59:29 PM Quote from: VNA on 31 January 2019, 09:14:29 PM And then there is the nightmare of the Irish border. How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ? or Switzerland?
If you wanted to REMAIN in the single market, then why did you vote for BREXIT knowing that you were putting our single market membership at risk. It is absolutely essential for this countries future, and in particular for us ordinary punters in this country, that the UK continues to be part of the single market.
The EU has no shared border with Brazil.
How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ? QuoteThe EU has no shared border with Brazil. Oh yes it has-- shows that you don't know anything other than what you google - try googling it and find out
Quote from: fazersharp on 02 February 2019, 06:07:28 pmHow does the EU manage its border with Brazil ? QuoteThe EU has no shared border with Brazil. Oh yes it has-- shows that you don't know anything other than what you google - try googling it and find outI've googled. It's true, it does
I hardly ever even use it at full power cos it just tries to suck the whole bloody carpet up.
Quote from: VNA on 02 February 2019, 06:16:49 pm I hardly ever even use it at full power cos it just tries to suck the whole bloody carpet up. There he go's again proving his champagne socialist credentials with his Carpet
It wishes to have its own army,
It wishes to have its own foreign policy, but again under who's direction.
And what if member states do not agree with the direction taken by the foreign policies, or its army.
I can still remember the scenes in Spanish cities, scenes of mass rejoicing every time a BRITISH serviceman was killed in the Falklands war.
I, like others have no objection to free movement of people from Europe, but object to the masses of economic migrants/terrorists currently being relocated into Europe by the EU, with no backgrounds, no checks, and little hope of integrating.
and want only to impose their culture and lifestyle upon us. I don't not want the political interference.
As for right wing government, if that's what people wish for , then they'll vote for it.
I, like other Leavers on here, likely still wish to trade with the EU, and the rest of the world. The EU now is not what it once was, a confederation of trading nations, a common market, beneficial in principle to its members. But the EU has changed, and will continue to change, becoming ever more influential in domestic affairs. It wishes to have its own army, but under who's control. It wishes to have its own foreign policy, but again under who's direction. And what if member states do not agree with the direction taken by the foreign policies, or its army. I can still remember the scenes in Spanish cities, scenes of mass rejoicing every time a BRITISH serviceman was killed in the Falklands war. I, like others have no objection to free movement of people from Europe, but object to the masses of economic migrants/terrorists currently being relocated into Europe by the EU, with no backgrounds, no checks, and little hope of integrating. Many will simply slip into the black economy, or into crime, because they are incapable of integrating, and want only to impose their culture and lifestyle upon us. I don't not want the political interference. I want to be able to elect the government of the United Kingdom, and know that that is where the responsibility lies. I do not want the United Kingdom electorate to elect a government that has committed to policies of public spending, only to find that the UNELECTED tells said government that it cannot implement those policies as they do not agree with them. Just like Italy, Greece, and Spain, with possibly Portugal not far away too.I don't expect, or particularly want you to reply, I respect your views but cannot agree with them. I said in an earlier post that the EU is like a cancer, slowly spreading, ever weakening resistance by doshing out cash to potential dissenters. That is still my view. I'm not debating it.As for right wing government, if that's what people wish for , then they'll vote for it. Certainly, a political party that campaigns on strongly tackling crime, upping defence spending, cleaning up the streets, clamping down severely on unlicensed/illegal/untaxed vehicles/ensuring all people and business's with earnings in the UK pay the appropriate level of taxation/deporting illegal immigrants, would likely win an election
Britain did indeed fight with extraordinary determination against the Axis Powers. British civilians and servicemen and women displayed enormous bravery and sacrifice. The human and economic cost was vast. But Britain did not fight alone.Even after the fall of Britain's W European allies in 1939-40 Britain had India, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and many other countries in its corner. The collective economic might of the UK, its dominions and colonies approached that the of the mighty USAOnce the USA and Soviets joined it was by pooling resources and integrating command structures that the allies were able to project overwhelming strength onto the battlefield against their enemies.British troops often went into battle under American or other allied command. And vice versa. Polish squadrons fighting under a New Zealander played a hugely important role in the Battle of Britain, while.....on D-day British, US, Canadian and other troops landed, commanded by British general Montgomery, working to a plan set by American Supreme Commander Eisenhower. There were slightly more British Empire than US troops. (By VE Day there were many more Americans)Meanwhile in South East Asia a vast coalition of allies fought under British supreme command.At the very highest level Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt debated strategy fiercely. Churchill lost, on Poland at Yalta for example, but also won on things like a French occupation zone in Germany.At Tehran Churchill was bullied into abandoning plans in the eastern Mediterranean in favour of D-day in the west. He said he felt like the 'poor little English donkey' between the mighty Russian bear and American buffalo.He gave in. But in return Stalin agreed to time a massive Soviet offensive in the East with the allied landings in the west and agreed to join the war against Japan.
Britain has fought in A LOT of coalitions. They are expensive, frustrating & often inefficient but we're ultimately victorious. Britain has lost only one great power war in the last 250yrs. The American Revolutionary War, when, funnily enough, Britain was fighting alone
Because I don't want all the other stuff that go's with it.Like
How does the EU manage its border with Brazil ? QuoteThe EU has no shared border with Brazil. Oh yes it has-- shows that you don't know anything other than what you google - try googling it and find out</blockquote>I've googled. It's true, it does
QuoteIt wishes to have its own army,Nope it’s never going to happen.QuoteAbsolute bollocks, in 2018 Merkel and Macron were both backing the creation of a EU army , A spokesperson for the commission’s president [/size]Jean-Claude Juncker[/color]said he was “pleased” that the argument for the force seemed to be “going in our direction”.[/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color]
Absolute bollocks, in 2018 Merkel and Macron were both backing the creation of a EU army , A spokesperson for the commission’s president [/size]Jean-Claude Juncker[/color]said he was “pleased” that the argument for the force seemed to be “going in our direction”.[/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color]