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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #25 on: 28 August 2013, 02:25:40 pm »

Excellent news. :)
Please drop me a pm with your preferred payment method as soon as you have the final figures.
Cheers,  James

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #26 on: 30 August 2013, 09:40:02 pm »

Excellent news. :)
Please drop me a pm with your preferred payment method as soon as you have the final figures.
Cheers,  James

Same here.


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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #27 on: 04 September 2013, 11:07:06 am »
Same here cheers

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #28 on: 04 September 2013, 01:34:57 pm »
Will do.
Judging from previous Group buys, it takes about 7-10 days for Debrix to acquire the emulators from their manufacturer(s) in the far East, then another week for shipping them across the pond to the UK. 

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #29 on: 14 September 2013, 08:23:26 pm »
Emus are now on their way over to the UK  :) just the Customs men to get past  :(
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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #30 on: 14 September 2013, 11:00:44 pm »
Dayum, i jumped on the Fazer bandwagon a big late.

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #31 on: 15 September 2013, 11:37:49 am »
Ah, you never know, someone might pull out

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #32 on: 15 September 2013, 01:22:18 pm »
Great, that's good news  :)

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« Reply #33 on: 15 September 2013, 06:39:59 pm »
nice one ;)

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #34 on: 16 September 2013, 09:43:19 pm »
Dayum, i jumped on the Fazer bandwagon a big late.


me too, another time maybe.

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #35 on: 17 September 2013, 10:20:07 am »
Once the initial group have fitted their emus & reported back their findings, I'll probably organise a second batch if there's enough interest.


Oh yeah, just to say I have a spare set of forks / damper rods in the unlikely event anyone f888ks their emu installation up.
Also, I have 2 pairs of rusted TRX850 forks in the shed & it looks like the damper rods could be fairly easily adapted to fit the Fazers. So drill with calculated abandon  :lol
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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #36 on: 26 September 2013, 11:41:45 am »
Well the Emulators have finally arrived  :D

Am going to work shortly, won't be home till late so sorry but can't PM everyone today - will hopefully have much more time tomorrow morning!

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #37 on: 26 September 2013, 03:06:36 pm »
Yay! Good news  :)

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« Reply #38 on: 26 September 2013, 05:02:16 pm »
Good stuff kebab, pm me :)

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #39 on: 27 September 2013, 09:15:57 am »
Hey,


I dunno when i'll get round to fitting these, have a to get front brakes sorted up before anything else, if Thunderpatz or BBB would use the set I got you to get quicker then happy to give them up.


If not PM me and i'll get cash to you.  ;)


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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #40 on: 01 October 2013, 10:19:32 am »
Emulators posted first class this morning to:   69Oldskool
                                                                         Wezdavo
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As some of you predicted, Royal Mail's prices have crept up, 1st class recorded was £4.10

There's still a spare set here if anyone else is interested? If not, I'll throw them to the SV650 sharks  :lol
 

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #41 on: 02 October 2013, 04:29:15 pm »
And received today, thanks Kebab.
 
Initial observations~kinda assumed they were gold anodized aluminium,pleased to discover they're brass as brass wears better.
 
Had to dissassemble one. ;) 
Worth noting the adjuster bolt is non metric...well they're meant for a Harley after all. So you'll need an imperial allen wrench, though i found a torx t20 did the job ok.
 

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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #42 on: 02 October 2013, 10:27:37 pm »
Received mine today as well.


I will not be rushing to update the front but I want to do it before the spring.
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Re: Debrix fork cartridge emulators - anyone up for a group buy?
« Reply #43 on: 03 October 2013, 10:43:48 am »
Emulators posted this morning to both Robbus & Fazerider, apologies for delay!



Now all sets have been posted out, I decided to turn this thread into the installation thread for everyone to post their experiences, issues, queries etc

Quick Links: Emulators explained:                                                                     http://racetech.com/HTML_FILES/DampingRodForks.HTML
                    Fork dismantling (follow down to halfway / dust seal removal) :   http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,42.0.html
                    My original Goldvalve thread with later Debrix update :                http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,71.0.html
                    Useful emulator reference thread for Suzuki Burgman:                 http://burgmanusa.com/bkb/650+Race+Tech+Installation
                   
     
The Burgman thread has a 'what others are using' section which lists the specifics of all riders who installed Racetech emus in their forks. I might do the same & compile a table if everyone wants to post their details up to further improve their catridge-emulator fork setup.               
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Re: Installation thread for Debrix fork cartridge emulators - Group buyers
« Reply #44 on: 03 October 2013, 05:02:05 pm »
Received mine today, thanks Kebab ;)
 
I will be fitting at the weekend, cant wait

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Re: Installation thread for Debrix fork cartridge emulators - Group buyers
« Reply #45 on: 03 October 2013, 06:48:15 pm »
got mine a couple of days ago and couldn't..  thank you...




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Re: Installation thread for Debrix fork cartridge emulators - Group buyers
« Reply #46 on: 03 October 2013, 09:16:12 pm »
You're welcome, fellas  :)

I should be around most of the weekend to answer to help out with queries, I can even provide my phone number through PM if anyone is desperate enough.

However, if you follow the instructions you should have a better handling Fazer right away, although remember that these emus won't change your forks into 50mm Upside-down gold-nitrided Ohlins (sadly).
One big factor I've barely mentioned is fork oil height, as changing it can make a huge difference to how the forks react, but the amount is down to individual preference.  Obviously I can't predict in advance how the forks will feel but bear in mind that a bit of alteration *may* be needed for your ideal setup, and if you have to adjust the emulators you'll have to fish them out of the forks in order to do so  :( Hmmm, where do you buy that wee metal grabber claw thingy on the end of a stick? I might have to supply them with these kits  :lol
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Re: Installation thread for Debrix fork cartridge emulators - Group buyers
« Reply #47 on: 03 October 2013, 10:58:24 pm »
If its metallic you could fish it out with a telescopic magnet? I have a small torch with one in the middle which is incredibly handy!

This is what I have: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Magnetic-Pick-Tool-Torch/dp/B00A26SUO0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_10

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« Reply #48 on: 04 October 2013, 12:00:25 pm »
Mine have arrived! Thanks Jeff, great service! Alas won't be fiddling this weekend but hopefully the following, can't wait to have non-utterly-crap suspension  :lol


Been reading the various threads and having a think about the hole sizes needed to be drilled in the damper rod. Having got the emus now it strikes me that we just need to match the area of the drilled holes to the 3 elliptical holes on the bottom of the emu, no point going larger than them as they won't flow any more oil, unless my brain isn't working right.


Anyway they're not easy to measure as they're not proper ellipses but I guesstimated at them being about 12.5x8mm then got an area of 78.54mm2 from here:
http://www.calculateme.com/cArea/AreaOfEllipse.htm
So total area of 235.62mm2


4 x 10mm holes gives 314.16mm2
4 x 9.5mm holes gives 283.53mm2
4 x 9mm holes gives 254.47mm2
4 x 8.5mm holes gives 226.98mm2


If anybody can measure the emu holes more accurately that would be handy otherwise I might just plump for 9.5mm holes, if I've got a 9.5mm drill that is ;)


Cheers,
Rob
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« Reply #49 on: 04 October 2013, 01:09:54 pm »
Oh, and any recommendations on fork oil brand? Seen some Silkolene 15wt on Ebay for just under £12 for a litre, or should I stick with Yamalube?

Cheers,
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