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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain buzzing noise
« on: 12 August 2023, 09:20:49 pm »
Just an update on this.


It was the cam chain along with the associated parts around it that were worn and needed replacing.


But just a word of caution for anyone thinking of getting this type of issue sorted in the future.
It really isn't straightforward at all, as not only are some parts hard to get, but one important part is actually discontinued as well.
I eventually ended up getting parts myself from abroad, but they are few and far between without a doubt.


To make matters worse, due to these bikes getting on a bit now the engine parts are not so easy to remove either, as I have just found out the hard way, resulting in engine removal.


Add to that, the damn exhaust header bolts get worse with age too so have also been a problem.
I "snapped" one a few years ago on removal, and when I say snapped it was like I was undoing a stud made of chalk.
And on refitting my exhaust my mechanic snapped one too.


All in all it's going to be an expensive and drawn out experience, but the reason I persevered is because I know the bike and everything else that's been done to it, so when I get it back on Monday it should last for many more years.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stone dead
« on: 12 August 2023, 05:10:16 pm »
Starter circuit Cut Off Relay is a more accurate term for it since is is more than a relay.

The starter relay would be the wrong term as the Solenoid is technically the starter relay.
Unfortunately both terms are used for it


So the one I replaced recently is the Starter relay/Solenoid, that sits right  behind  the battery under the seat.


Where does the other one live?


If I put fuel pump relay in Ebay just a fuel pump comes up.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fuel pump?
« on: 11 August 2023, 12:07:07 pm »
Do you know the age of your fuel filter? Maybe that could do with replacing too if you're not sure?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fuel pump?
« on: 11 August 2023, 12:04:16 pm »
Check for kinks in fuel pipes, and make sure fuel tap under tank is turned on fully.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stone dead
« on: 04 August 2023, 03:23:49 am »
Is a "Starter Circuit Cut Off Relay" a long version of saying a Starter Relay unit?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fork damper removal tool
« on: 30 July 2023, 11:16:21 am »
That's expensive for something you'll rarely use. I would still persevere with the broom handle, it's always worked for me, even the very first time when the bolt seemed extremely tight. Maybe get someone to assist you holding the fork leg down onto the handle while you try to undo it.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter/Misfire at high RPM
« on: 28 July 2023, 06:54:18 pm »
Check the carb rubbers are on properly and sealed.
Had my carbs fitted back on years ago and one edge of carb rubber #2 had folded in on itself leaving an air leak.
Because it was #2 and hidden it was only spotted on removal again by a different mechanic.

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General / Re: Just Stop oil
« on: 26 July 2023, 07:58:50 pm »

Saw my dyslexic mate protesting outside a garden centre glued to the road holding up a sign that read
''Top soil now''  :rollin

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General / Re: Just Stop oil
« on: 26 July 2023, 07:56:42 pm »
You need to get a snow plow fitted to the front of your bike.  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter and violent vibrations
« on: 22 July 2023, 08:59:05 pm »
I readjusted the TPS, got it to 5000 rpm , and i started the engine again. I could notice some 10% improvement but the problems are still all there. The engine is running very rough, jitters and vibrates


When you say you readjusted it, what did you readjust it from?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stone dead
« on: 22 July 2023, 08:56:46 pm »
Out of interest, what did you pay for a new starter relay?
There are some dodgy ones about, I bought a cheap one and it literally fell apart after a few months resulting in zero power.
The prices vary quite a bit.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter and violent vibrations
« on: 22 July 2023, 01:14:14 pm »
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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter and violent vibrations
« on: 22 July 2023, 01:11:39 pm »
Look at the large box in blue above the last comment at the bottom.
Remember, you only want to check the TPS for now, don't go adjusting it as you'll need to sort out #3 carb first.


https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=25856.msg319116#msg319116

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter and violent vibrations
« on: 22 July 2023, 01:03:48 pm »
The videos arent mine but thats exactly how it feels and sounds. I am clueless what to do next, because i need to travel soon but the bike is uncomfortable to drive even for 2 km.


As above, do a quick TPS check.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stutter and violent vibrations
« on: 22 July 2023, 07:14:18 am »
Was just reading the stuff that you've done to it on YouTube.
Bike sounds very rough tbh.


No mention of checking the TPS though? Wondering if you've balanced the carbs with a dud TPS and it's made things even worse.
Add to that, you also mention carb #3 may not be adjusted properly either via the screw?
It can all add up to a bad scenario like you have.


Great videos by the way, extremely helpful to get a real idea at what's going on.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cylinders 3 & 4 not firing
« on: 18 July 2023, 03:58:55 pm »
Have you swapped plugs 3 & 4 over to 1 & 2 to rule them out?
Plugs can and do go bad from experience, especially if you already had issues before.
Snipping about 7mm off the ends of each HT lead then refitting the caps can help too, as over time the internal wires can sink into the plastic of the leads due to heat.


Are they original caps, or aftermarket ones?

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Odd, I'm sure you used to be able to include YouTube links.


Tried a few times, it wasn't shrunken or anything, just not there at all?

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Found this really decent video that gets more fascinating the more you watch it, which shows and explains the inner workings of a transparent carburettor.

Dunno why, but i can't show the link?

Just do a search on YouTube for "How Does A Carburetor Work? | Transparent Carburetor at 28,546 fps Slow Mo - Smarter Every Day 259"

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: HELP - unknown bolts
« on: 07 July 2023, 08:46:36 pm »
They look to me to be engine casing type bolts, sprocket cover ? If you have ended up with them because you mixed up your own bolts for ones that came off the bike then the slightly worrying thing is that they are different lengths for a reason and your bolts will not be the same length --- shorter or longer than they should be.


Sprocket cover has 2 longer bolts, not 3.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Classic status
« on: 04 July 2023, 05:41:03 am »
My insurance through Ageas is called "Future Classic Vintage" but maybe we have to go another 10 years to match the RD. Perhaps to be a classic part of it is how rare they are ?
My bike is May 1998 we had a thing a few years ago to find the oldest fazer and if \I remember right it was mine - by a few days. I think the bike in the UK was released in May ?. Although I brought it 3 years later.


how does one find out when their bike was made/registered? ive a 98 too


https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: front forks
« on: 17 June 2023, 03:17:00 pm »
hi guys
will a set of forks from a 1998 fazer fit a 2000 model
the only difference i can see is the preload adjuster on the 2000 model
regards adrian


Exactly that, I have 98 forks on my 2000.
Never felt like the adjusters did anything anyway.
Don't forget the fork oil levels will be different without the adjusters, you'll need a bit more in them, as per manual.

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General / Re: Which Fazer is the best and why?
« on: 15 June 2023, 03:48:00 am »
All Yams since 1990 can use E10, use it or don't, just stop scare mongering.

Super unleaded just gives me a placebo feeling of the bike running better and giving more mpg. It probably isn't and doesn't but i will enjoy the occasional placebo.


It's because it's not a placebo effect at all. If you filled my tank with E10, then again with 99 RON ethanol free ESSO Supreme+ and i had to guess which was which i reckon i'd get it right every time. Some of us actually have a sensitive side and can tell these things apart.  :lol


As for which bike, i've only ever ridden the Boxeye which has served me very well and has been great fun, but the fact that the Foxeye tidied a few issues up, like the lights, slightly bigger tank, etc, would make my vote sway towards it.
I nearly bought a 1000 a few years back but realised i simply didn't need it, and it would be more unnecessary expense to maintain, more insurance, more fuel, etc, plus more weight which certainly wouldn't be welcomed due to what seems like constant roadworks and traffic on my journeys these days.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Jack up kits any good?
« on: 02 June 2023, 03:52:07 pm »
Hi
Can anyone tell me the eye to eye measurement of the
25mm / 35mm / 45mm jack up bones.


Thanks


Doubt you'll find that info, I've tried before in the past.


Another link here though.


https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=7924.msg77466#msg77466

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Led lights electronics damage on Fazer Mk1 ?
« on: 01 June 2023, 06:59:38 pm »
There are pictures on Page 4 of the link I gave above (the black one above the red one)
And right at the end of Page 5 is the link to the cable heat protector tubing.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Led lights electronics damage on Fazer Mk1 ?
« on: 30 May 2023, 07:45:36 pm »
This is what I used to improve the lights. New! LED bulb kit H4 Nano technology for your Car and Motorcycle reduced the current from 8amps to 3.5amps
I was used  the Osram night breakers for years, but the dims were not much better than the normal bulbs.


Are these a lot better?
Don't forget we annoyingly have different bulb sizes on each size.
Mine appear to be, All size bulbs, but the H7 has not got the slim line design  yet. When I had a Boxeye over 20 years ago I modified the left side to take a H4. Slow tedious job but was worth it.


Yeah, it's the left side H1 (not H7, you got me thinking again there) fitting that has prevented me from trying out fancier bulbs in the past.

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