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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Timbo on 27 September 2016, 04:46:05 pm

Title: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Timbo on 27 September 2016, 04:46:05 pm: Hi all

Do I need any special tools to service and replace the seals on the brake calipers?

Thanks

Timbo
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: PieEater on 27 September 2016, 05:09:20 pm: I bought a set of brake piston pliers which made the job a lot easier. Similar to these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VS1806-Motorcycle-Piston-Removal/dp/B000WZJ7NO (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VS1806-Motorcycle-Piston-Removal/dp/B000WZJ7NO)
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Timbo on 27 September 2016, 08:58:23 pm: Thanks

You don't have to take the shiney blue bits out then?

Bw
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: PieEater on 27 September 2016, 09:17:14 pm: Nope.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Fazerjon on 10 October 2016, 09:33:07 pm: I shall be getting one of those brake piston pliers for sure. I spent ages taking great care, and struggled a bit to get the pistons out of my old bikes calipers a few years ago, without damaging or scoring them. That tool would have made the whole job a piece of piss!
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: PieEater on 10 October 2016, 09:51:15 pm: They're also useful for rotating the pistons in place if you just want to give them a clean and coat of red rubber grease which I do when I replace the pads.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: robbo on 10 October 2016, 10:06:14 pm: Coincidentally I ordered a pair of the Sealey VS1806 Brake Piston Removal pliers today. Cheapest I could find was £13.24 with free p&p, from buycarspares2. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: PieEater on 11 October 2016, 06:32:30 am: Quote from: robbo on 10 October 2016, 10:06:14 pm
Coincidentally I ordered a pair of the Sealey VS1806 Brake Piston Removal pliers today. Cheapest I could find was £13.24 with free p&p, from buycarspares2. Hope this helps.
They are currently £12.93 with free p&p on the Amazon link I gave above.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: robbo on 11 October 2016, 10:21:50 am: Doh......Thought I'd had a right result as some places asking well over 30 quid.I can't open links when using my phone so your useful info went under my radar.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: ram on 11 October 2016, 11:31:21 am: Quote from: robbo on 11 October 2016, 10:21:50 am
Doh......Thought I'd had a right result as some places asking well over 30 quid.I can't open links when using my phone so your useful info went under my radar.

£13.24 on ebay (just to make you feel a bit worse ;) )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=piston+pliers+-ring&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=piston+pliers+-ring&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15)
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: robbo on 11 October 2016, 11:56:50 am: Yeah £13.24 on ebay, that's what I paid.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Fazerjon on 12 October 2016, 08:29:08 pm: Just ordered mine, £12.94 Amazon :)
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Makiaveliko on 13 October 2016, 01:26:39 pm: I refurbished my brakes without any special tools just used a air compressor and a piece of wood.

Those pliers seems a good tool to have when cleaning/maintenance is required. :)
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: gixersix on 22 October 2016, 03:33:44 pm: Depends on how badly your pistons have seized. I had a load of old SRAD calipers and those Sealey pliers didn't have enough leverage to even turn the pistons, never mind extract them, and the serrations on the tips (that are supposed to grip the inside face of a piston) just smoothed off. NOT impressed. I think someone needs to make a set of mole-grip type locking pliers.
Admittedly, these were old seized pistons, but just goes to show even special tools sometimes DON'T get the job done. In hindsight, I'd buy a set of those expanding piston pullers, but you'd have to split the calipers to use them.

Meantime, I made a brake rig out of a SRAD rear brake and reservoir and goodridge line, and I hydraulically pumped all the pistons out.
Title: Re: Gen 1 brakes
Post by: Graham53 on 24 October 2016, 02:40:21 am: You can't split blue spot calipers , they are a one piece unit and actually not designed to be worked on and if the pistons are seized on the blue spot side which they usually are then the best way is to remove the blue spots with a spot removal tool.
Or so an article I read in practical sportsbikes a while ago said