Quote from: darrsi on 23 August 2021, 03:17:10 pmMy 2000 FZS 600 level read 0.43, which he said was unusually high.But after speaking to one of the staff I mentioned I cleaned my K&N air filter last week and he said that would not have helped at all and more than likely raised the level, although in the same breath he also said it wouldn't have been significant enough to make it pass.So something to note, a dirty paper filter could actually lower your test results. I had the Cat. fitted anyway, as i never really had much choice.I was there about 70mins in total, which included the initial Dyno test, then having the Cat. fitted, then a retest again. Whole lot cost £435 No power loss whatsoever, but it has changed the sound of the bike a little bit, but to be honest I like the new sound so no worries there.I asked about how I will know when it's all well and good and was to told to download an app tomorrow called TFL DRIVE, and when I enter my Reg. Number it will state that my bike is exempt.And finally it was pointed out to me that no bike is the same, so one bike may pass whereas another might fail, even if they are the same year and model of bike. This is due to many factors so there is no way of knowing what your bike will show up.Did you happen to see what cat they installed? I need to get one fitted but buggered if I'm letting them do that to my pipe and charge that much for the pleasure!
My 2000 FZS 600 level read 0.43, which he said was unusually high.But after speaking to one of the staff I mentioned I cleaned my K&N air filter last week and he said that would not have helped at all and more than likely raised the level, although in the same breath he also said it wouldn't have been significant enough to make it pass.So something to note, a dirty paper filter could actually lower your test results. I had the Cat. fitted anyway, as i never really had much choice.I was there about 70mins in total, which included the initial Dyno test, then having the Cat. fitted, then a retest again. Whole lot cost £435 No power loss whatsoever, but it has changed the sound of the bike a little bit, but to be honest I like the new sound so no worries there.I asked about how I will know when it's all well and good and was to told to download an app tomorrow called TFL DRIVE, and when I enter my Reg. Number it will state that my bike is exempt.And finally it was pointed out to me that no bike is the same, so one bike may pass whereas another might fail, even if they are the same year and model of bike. This is due to many factors so there is no way of knowing what your bike will show up.
No, he was quite clear about me not being allowed in the workshop, which is fair enough i s'pose due to health & safety and covid current standard practices.
Did you happen to see what cat they installed? I need to get one fitted but buggered if I'm letting them do that to my pipe and charge that much for the pleasure!
Isn't the problem that even if you do a DIY Cat, or otherwise adjust your emissions, Riverbank are the only shop authorised to test?
Quote from: bald_pig on 05 September 2021, 01:15:12 amDid you happen to see what cat they installed? I need to get one fitted but buggered if I'm letting them do that to my pipe and charge that much for the pleasure!As mentioned in my post above one way is to fit a later FZ6 link pipe, it requires some fabrication but that is fairly straightforward for any skilled fabricator. https://www.sparesunlimited.co.uk/yamaha-fz6-fz6n-2004-2006-fz6s-2004-2005/Or you can go the same route as Riverbank they will fit something very similar if not the very same as, they come in various sizes to suit your pipe diameter. I've not used these, but know of people who have. In a lot of EU countries bikes are tested for emissions and have been for years, many owners are forced to retro fit as it was country wide not just a specific city or town etc. https://www.louis-moto.co.uk/artikel/retrofit-catalytic-converter-for-sbk-exhaust-systems/10027049Unlike the UK where the market has concentrated on decat, link pipes etc. This will change and at speed, as mentioned all new bikes within a few years at most, will be emission tested like cars and I think it's very possible in time any vehicle under going the standard MOT will to. At present any vehicle over 40yrs old is exempt from MOT and VED, because they're deemed not to be variable for daily use, commuting etc. Yes a few might still be used to commuting but the vast majority will be weekend, high days and holiday use only.
Call me stoopid is the linkpipe separate or part of the down pipes?
Quote from: midden on 09 September 2021, 08:51:40 amCall me stoopid is the linkpipe separate or part of the down pipes?They're separate pipes, but come in different diameters. I have two aftermarket end cans and I believe they're both different sizes to the OEM can. Or at least the pair of them are definitely different anyway as they each have a link pipe, I've not laid eyes on the stock exhaust for 14 years now.
Quote from: darrsi on 08 September 2021, 06:03:03 amNo, he was quite clear about me not being allowed in the workshop, which is fair enough i s'pose due to health & safety and covid current standard practices. I get not being allowed into the w/s, but being deliberately blocked from seeing what they are doing to YOUR property is another thing entirely and something I cannot abide. Your paying them to work, so as the person with the money I want to see that my bike is being treated with respect. A lot of shops either have a viewing window or you can view it from outside via the w/s entrance in some instances.Both times I had the displeasure of speaking to the owner of RB mc/s on the phone he came across and arrogant and belligerent, not what you want to hear as a potential customer. Its why ultimately I sold my Bandit 1200 and Fzs1000 for a 1250 and FZ1, his customer skills and his deminer meant that I preferred to go through all the hassle of selling and buying bikes than giving that utter c***! a single penny of my money. My reaction/stance may seem at first unreasonable, but I have spoken to over a dozen bike shops around London and either they themselves have witnessed it or their customers have.
I did contact Yamaha by email, and they replied asking for my VIN/chassis number, etc, which i sent back to them, then they never responded again!I just sent them another email with the same details.
This was rather neatly done[size=78%] [/size]I'm going to try some black wrap around the link pipe to keep the thieving eyes away from it.
Quote from: darrsi on 23 August 2021, 03:23:34 pmThis was rather neatly doneI'm going to try some black wrap around the link pipe to keep the thieving eyes away from it.The 600 is a2 piece exhaust So when they refer to slotting in to the link pipe is it the tailpipe or the down pipe the cat would be pushed into
This was rather neatly doneI'm going to try some black wrap around the link pipe to keep the thieving eyes away from it.
Quote from: midden on 11 October 2021, 08:07:05 pmQuote from: darrsi on 23 August 2021, 03:23:34 pmThis was rather neatly doneI'm going to try some black wrap around the link pipe to keep the thieving eyes away from it.The 600 is a2 piece exhaust So when they refer to slotting in to the link pipe is it the tailpipe or the down pipe the cat would be pushed intoI mean, the photo that shows they've cut the pipe, inserted the cat, and rewelded it is right there in the post...
Where are we at with this? Is it possible to get some sort of certificate or evidence so that my trusty Fazer thou ('03) can be ULEZ exempt?
Quote from: midden on 11 October 2021, 08:07:05 pmQuote from: darrsi on 23 August 2021, 03:23:34 pmThis was rather neatly doneI'm going to try some black wrap around the link pipe to keep the thieving eyes away from it.The 600 is a2 piece exhaust So when they refer to slotting in to the link pipe is it the tailpipe or the down pipe the cat would be pushed intoI have downpipes, then link pipe, then end can, so it's actually 3 parts. The Cat. was put inside the middle link pipe.
Quote from: Screwdriver on 04 November 2021, 08:18:30 pmWhere are we at with this? Is it possible to get some sort of certificate or evidence so that my trusty Fazer thou ('03) can be ULEZ exempt?Short answer...Yes.Long winded journey....https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=24907.msg296166#msg296166
Haven't done it myself, and someone will correct me if wrong. I believe you need an individual CoC from Yamaha. Yamaha UK will charge you a fee for this. The CoC should show the NOX level as below TFL's threshold. . Although all FZS1000s are technically compliant, the CoC is individual to your VIN. So you can't use somebody else's CoC. You then send the CoC with a copy of your V5 showing your Reg No and VIN to TFL, who will record your Reg No on their database as exempt.No use trying this route for a FZS600, as the CoC will show the NOX value as non compliant
Sorry to sound cross but I keep this machine tip top and there's no way I can afford a new Euro 3 anything. Makes me spit when I see heavily polluting vehicles cluttering up the road which are clearly not "compliant" in the real world on anything other than paper..