Author Topic: paying pregnant smokers (Read 5050 times)

lew600fazer · « **on:** 28 January 2015, 08:45:50 am »

Well heard it all now, we are in some parts of the country, deprived areas, paying Pregnant women with vouchers to stop smoking.WTF.
I assume a deprived area means there is not a lot of money about? seems to be enough for these poor folk to buy ciggies though.
I am all in favour of encouraging folk to give up smoking and giving them support.
But to actually give a financial incentitive no fecking way. Pregnant or otherwise. How often have women been told not to smoke or drink while pregnant ??To me a mother who continues to smoke or drink while pregnant regardless of what her station in life is obviously does not give a feck about her unborn child.

Kosmic Kartman · « **Reply #1 on:** 28 January 2015, 09:12:58 am »

Just shows what a fucked up country we live in.

Arfa · « **Reply #2 on:** 28 January 2015, 09:22:12 am »

It's the thing todo down here in Essex:

' dunna wan giv up fags, why shud I? get a nice small babe ya see, easier to push it owt, init!'

bri h · « **Reply #3 on:** 28 January 2015, 09:53:04 am »

Its rediculous to bribe them.Still bloke on the telly says it cost 400 quid to bribe them and 800 quid to sort them out if they dont.

Fazafou · « **Reply #4 on:** 28 January 2015, 10:09:08 am »

They should just chemically adjust ciggies to cause permanent sterility so these people aren't adding to the population.

HarryHornby · « **Reply #5 on:** 28 January 2015, 12:56:21 pm »

It seems soooo stupid. As has already been said, it's a deprived area, how the foc do they afford fags at £10 a pop?

Also, how do they police it?? It would be like the stoning scene in Monty Python...... "Are there any smokers here?" " no, no, no, no cough cough cough". Seriously though, they would ask "have you given up the fags?" "yes" would be the reply.... gets vouchers, walks out of sight and sparks up.... job done!

Frosties · « **Reply #6 on:** 28 January 2015, 12:59:38 pm »

Quote from: HarryHornby on 28 January 2015, 12:56:21 pm

It seems soooo stupid. As has already been said, it's a deprived area, how the foc do they afford fags at £10 a pop?

Also, how do they police it?? It would be like the stoning scene in Monty Python...... "Are there any smokers here?" " no, no, no, no cough cough cough". Seriously though, they would ask "have you given up the fags?" "yes" would be the reply.... gets vouchers, walks out of sight and sparks up.... job done!

Then you've got the genuine non smokers claiming to be smokers so they can get the vouchers and flog them on. WTF...........

esetest · « **Reply #7 on:** 28 January 2015, 01:12:32 pm »

Will the payments be backdated , I gave up smoking 13 years ago .

maddog04 · « **Reply #8 on:** 28 January 2015, 01:19:53 pm »

easy cash.....I'm starting

adeejaysdelight · « **Reply #9 on:** 28 January 2015, 01:46:33 pm »

The problem in these "deprived" areas is fundamentally a social and educational one and a typical government answer is to throw money at it and hope it goes away. Already the nation has found a way to make a scam of it and it was only made public this morning.

What a piece of nonsense

taylor · « **Reply #10 on:** 28 January 2015, 05:39:44 pm »

a foreign bloke was on a site I was on, in talking I was saying I couldn't afford to send my daughter away to uni, to expensive, I have worked all my life , he then said it is all paid for by the state for his daughter as they live in a deprived area.

Frosties · « **Reply #11 on:** 28 January 2015, 07:40:14 pm »

Quote from: taylor on 28 January 2015, 05:39:44 pm

a foreign bloke was on a site I was on, in talking I was saying I couldn't afford to send my daughter away to uni, to expensive, I have worked all my life , he then said it is all paid for by the state for his daughter as they live in a deprived area.

Maybe that's the answer to retiring wealthy. Sell my house, buy the same size house for a 1/4 of the price in a deprived area. Send the kids to Uni foc, then sell up and buy my retirement home in Cornwall.

taylor · « **Reply #12 on:** 28 January 2015, 08:06:09 pm »

good idea that one

chris.biker · « **Reply #13 on:** 28 January 2015, 08:31:52 pm »

Quote from: esetest on 28 January 2015, 01:12:32 pm

Will the payments be backdated , I gave up smoking 13 years ago .

Well congratulations, are you hoping for a boy or a girl?

lew600fazer · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 January 2015, 09:13:48 pm »

No one worse than an x smoker. When my wife was expecting our son she asked me to stop smoking or at least to smoke outside. I have not smoked in 29 years. It has had side effects though, I'm a fecking blimp. I used to be 13 stone in those days.

Grahamm · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 January 2015, 11:48:59 pm »

Quote from: lew600fazer on 28 January 2015, 08:45:50 am

Well heard it all now, we are in some parts of the country, deprived areas, paying Pregnant women with vouchers to stop smoking.WTF.
I assume a deprived area means there is not a lot of money about? seems to be enough for these poor folk to buy ciggies though.

One of the effects of nicotine is to suppress appetite, so smoking a cigarette helps people skip a meal that they can't afford to pay for.

Giving them vouchers they can use for food is probably better for them and for the baby, or we can just go all Daily Mail on them...

mtread · « **Reply #16 on:** 29 January 2015, 12:02:14 am »

if it has been proven to work, why not? At the end of the day, it's the innocent child that suffers.

midden · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 January 2015, 12:34:59 am »

Quote from: chris.biker on 28 January 2015, 08:31:52 pm

Quote from: esetest on 28 January 2015, 01:12:32 pm
Will the payments be backdated , I gave up smoking 13 years ago .

Well congratulations, are you hoping for a boy or a girl?

well there's reason against wanting to live in a depraved area. 12 yrs 3 mths over due and the local NHS still hasn't funded birth induction on esetest

DILLIGAFF · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 January 2015, 12:05:49 pm »

Seems to me that smokers are a selfish bunch, concerned only with THEIR choices. To me its like feeding your baby uncooked chicken or letting them play in Chernobyl.

Oh and BTW to whoever thought it OK to throw their empty fag packet onto my drive this week.......................... may the poisons from a 1000 counterfeit smuggled fags infest your lungs

Rexr · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 January 2015, 12:33:33 pm »

Quote from: lew600fazer on 28 January 2015, 08:45:50 am

Well heard it all now, we are in some parts of the country, deprived areas, paying Pregnant women with vouchers to stop smoking.WTF.
I assume a deprived area means there is not a lot of money about? seems to be enough for these poor folk to buy ciggies though.
I am all in favour of encouraging folk to give up smoking and giving them support.
But to actually give a financial incentitive no fecking way. Pregnant or otherwise. How often have women been told not to smoke or drink while pregnant ??To me a mother who continues to smoke or drink while pregnant regardless of what her station in life is obviously does not give a feck about her unborn child.

Totally agreed with everything there......

bigralphie · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 January 2015, 12:39:23 pm »

Well its silly season loads of shite for the next 100 days lol

youngsterbiker · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 January 2015, 03:18:51 pm »

Slightly different topic but heard it in the news today. If a woman comits a non violant crime they wont go to jail. She will be put into rehabilitation instead. If a man comits the same crime he will go to jail.
I'm all for putting certain people into rehab. 2nd chances and all that. I dont see why the same thing cant be done with men?
BBC story on it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31027549

lew600fazer · « **Reply #22 on:** 29 January 2015, 05:15:24 pm »

It all went to shit when we gave them the fecking vote

Andy FZS · « **Reply #23 on:** 29 January 2015, 05:25:20 pm »

Smokers have got the vote. Whatever next..

lew600fazer · « **Reply #24 on:** 30 January 2015, 01:33:57 pm »

They will be wanting Private health care next.