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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: keratos on 19 July 2014, 01:19:33 pm

Title: [SOLVED] video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 19 July 2014, 01:19:33 pm
Fazer fzs 600 chain jump: http://youtu.be/gQKkDd2w118 (http://youtu.be/gQKkDd2w118)

19000 miles.
Some links are stiff. Wd40 and Clean and relube but no better
Sprockets ... Well how do I know if they need replacing
Chain freeplay within tolerance
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: stevierst on 19 July 2014, 03:01:29 pm
Can't view It for soe reason, it says its private!
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: Fazafou on 19 July 2014, 03:58:46 pm
Yep, been uploaded as private.
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: darrsi on 19 July 2014, 04:31:43 pm
If you mean chain jump whilst on the centre stand, it's normal, it's the momentum of the wheel trying to go faster than the chain.
It needs a weight load on it basically.


If you have stiff links, then the chain is on it's way out.
I always change the sprockets with the chain.


You can get a D.I.D. X ring chain and sprockets for around £100.


Last one here in gold at a good price, they look good on a bike when cleaned up.


 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DID-Gold-X-Ring-Chain-Sprocket-Kit-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-97-03-/301240425449?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4623541be9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DID-Gold-X-Ring-Chain-Sprocket-Kit-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-97-03-/301240425449?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4623541be9)
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 19 July 2014, 06:53:12 pm
Guys. I used my mobile with YouTube app. How do I remove private. No idea that'd happened. Sorry. Don't see any private setting anywhere
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 19 July 2014, 07:15:13 pm
Sorted. Please try again
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: darrsi on 19 July 2014, 10:12:39 pm
As above!
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 19 July 2014, 10:14:39 pm
As above!
what does this mean? "as above" - which above? You cant see the video, or your link to chain set or something else?
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: Millietant on 20 July 2014, 12:32:10 am
It's normal for a chain running like that with a wheel off the ground, under no load.


Nothing to worry about, absolutely normal - our FZS 600 does that with a nicely lubed, properly adjusted chain, when the bike is on it's centre stand - nothing to worry about.


Our FZS 1000 and FJ 1200 do exactly the same, and our Aprilia RSV 1000 is much worse - but all their chains are good and all work perfectly, in normal riding.
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 20 July 2014, 12:36:34 am
It's normal for a chain running like that with a wheel off the ground, under no load.


Nothing to worry about, absolutely normal - our FZS 600 does that with a nicely lubed, properly adjusted chai, when the bike is on it's centre stand - nothing to worry about.


Our FZS 1000 and FJ 1200 do exactly the same, and our Aprilia RSV 1000 is much worse - but all their chains are good and all work perfectly, in normal riding.

Thanks for the reply

There is one geek of a clunk and knock when the chain jumps... The bike moves. Seems to be coming from drive end. In going to strip and investigate
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: darrsi on 20 July 2014, 02:05:00 am
As above!
what does this mean? "as above" - which above? You cant see the video, or your link to chain set or something else?


As above means read what i told you earlier in my previous reply!
I didn't need to see your video, the question has been asked several times before!
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 20 July 2014, 08:30:27 am
Sorry. I understand.
I will try again with load on
I do have did links and cleaning revealed minor rusting so I have ordered that kit you refer to
Many thanks and sorry
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: Timbollew on 20 July 2014, 04:22:15 pm
I assumed it was normal with mine but nice to get confirmation. Might sound silly but if I'm leaving it run a little like that (supervised of course), when I'm applying chain lube for instance will it cause any damage? I normally apply a small amount of revs and it's gone anyway.
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: darrsi on 20 July 2014, 05:14:40 pm
I assumed it was normal with mine but nice to get confirmation. Might sound silly but if I'm leaving it run a little like that (supervised of course), when I'm applying chain lube for instance will it cause any damage? I normally apply a small amount of revs and it's gone anyway.


That's not the way to apply lube.
It should be done by moving the wheel by hand so that the spray can get into the links properly either side.(when the chain is warm after a run out)
Doing it with the wheel moving (and chain jumping about) is not only bloody dangerous, but as you say it just flings it straight off, so it's just a waste of lube anyway.
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 20 July 2014, 05:44:30 pm
Agreed

Er... This is how I do it, by hand , and slowly.  After a ride out and particularly a wet one !

(Smug)

Cheers

Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: redthunder on 21 July 2014, 01:17:58 pm
I assumed it was normal with mine but nice to get confirmation. Might sound silly but if I'm leaving it run a little like that (supervised of course), when I'm applying chain lube for instance will it cause any damage? I normally apply a small amount of revs and it's gone anyway.


Don't get into that habit. Do it by hand. Get used to doing it by hand. A moving chain catching some loose clothing or loose body parts can end in catastrophe. Just don't do it.
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: Panthor on 21 July 2014, 03:46:30 pm
I remember there was a picture of a guy on an american GSXR forum that lost 2 fingers when cleaning his chain with a cloth.

link contains graphic images!! 
http://bikerpunks.com/mediaviewer/2279/fingers-cut-off-cleaing-chain.html (http://bikerpunks.com/mediaviewer/2279/fingers-cut-off-cleaing-chain.html)
Title: Re: video of chain jump please help diagnose
Post by: keratos on 21 July 2014, 11:03:37 pm
Graphic I ndeed. What next?... Putting arm through a spinning rear wheel to check play in the bearings. Jeez. Some people