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FZS600 Fazer / Dont leave your key in the side - you will bend it
« on: 19 January 2012, 06:04:02 pm »
Ages ago I had the bike on the side stand and took of the seat. Then needed to put on the center stand, and as the bike went back on to it, the key was still in the side and went past my leg and bent   

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Crash Protection??
« on: 19 January 2012, 05:46:13 pm »
I have the smaller lower half only crash bars (lower engine) that are just one bar and not the big ugly 3 piont things. Sort of a half way maybe wont help much in a big spill but good for others

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 19 January 2012, 04:11:05 pm »
ITS GOING - ITS Going !
Battery has been on charge /clean and refited
New spark plugs-
clean ht leads and caps with contact cleaner.
Started in a split second like it always has.
So its looking more and more like it was spark plugs for me, strange how they "fell off the cliff" with hardly any/much  warning.
Petrol warning light was also on so I put 2 ltrs fresh in
Only 2 ltr as my next job is to replace the air filter and did not want too much slopping about
Heres my theory Im thinking that the battery is not in the best of health 14 years old 1000 miles per year 2,3,4+ weeks inbetween rides, never been on charger. But the bike has always started instantly - so never needed much juce from it to get going. Untill the spark plugs had had it that is.
Not sure about the battery tho
Was on charge for 24 hours and read
12.61v right after unpluging
12.46v 10 mins later
12.39v 1/2 hour later
Then put on bike - 12 mile blast
read 12.57V
12.37v - after 20 mins parked
Not sure what all this means as to its health but the charger after 24 hours did not kick in to Float mode (Green led) which acording to the instructions says not able to hold its charge
 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: My Fazer is feeling very very wrong. HELP!! :-(
« on: 18 January 2012, 10:57:44 pm »
Spark plugs for my 98 fzs600 are NGK CR8E - just got them today.
Somone better that me may say otherwise but would a blocked air filter cause these problems not enough air = too much fuel does it not
Have a look at my thread about not starting as somone said some interesting stuff about the choke - it may help http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,1402.0.html

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 18 January 2012, 09:08:41 pm »
Thanks for your input
I have had the battery on charge since 2pm -7 hours now
Its a CTEK MXS 5.0 -rebadged as a Yamaha YEC-40 all was going ok but it gets to its part 5 stage which is an analyse section after charge to check if voltage drops to 12v.
Then instead of going on the the next stage (float) it reverts back to stage 4 which is a declining current after the main charge. From this info the instructions say that it canot hold its charge
Here is the instructions http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/Documents/CTEK_MXS5_User_Manual.pdf

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help me find a battery charger
« on: 18 January 2012, 06:35:28 pm »
Yep my above last post says it
Turns out its a CTEK 5.0 just with yamaha branding hope I get on ok with it just like you

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: One of the best bikes I think Ive owned!
« on: 18 January 2012, 05:03:50 pm »
Sorted Ill have one of those as well----- how do you like them apples !!!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: One of the best bikes I think Ive owned!
« on: 18 January 2012, 03:48:23 pm »
I somtimes think of changing -for a thou but then I read posts like the above ones and think- no ill keep it.Had it 11 years so far and I like to think that I know every little noise and nut and bolt and cant be bothered with a new learning curve in those respects

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 18 January 2012, 03:40:40 pm »
Thank you all so far for your help
Got myself a multimeter today and took out the batteryand the meter said it was 11.8v
Got a charger (see my other thread )
Battery now on charge Since 2.pm going by the leds on the charger the desulphation stage was skiped and it went straight to a soft start (slower rate i think) for one hour and now in main charge mode
Question why was 11.8v not enough to fire up the engine.It turned it over ok
I have also got new spark plugs and checked the gap. Wow that is small I think my old ones when I had a quick look (sill in the bikefor the now) were well worn.
I also have a new air filter but will first try with the new sparks and full battery as if that is no good then I shall next be looking at the in line filter and when under there will change the air filter too.
Question Why would a blocked air filter stop it from starting when that is exactly what you are doing with the choke
 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help me find a battery charger
« on: 18 January 2012, 03:21:45 pm »
New update
Today I have just got a yamaha branded one YEC-40 make by ctec 3 years grntee will also charge car batterys £65. There is another one at £45 with lower spec and not charge cars.
I just wanted it today so could not wait for ebay otherwise it would of been an optimate 4 at around £45.
MCA (leicester) had one but wanted £60 + I gota pay to park.
Progress report in my "wont start thread"

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 17 January 2012, 10:41:42 pm »
Don't suppose you have a multimeter do you?

A battery takes a massive hamering to start the bike - while it may be retaining enough juice from the last time you ran it to get it to start once (or twice in your case), but it knackers a cell, and then you don't start again...

Brace - that'll teach me to read more carefully, hadn't seen the bit about turning over  :rolleyes :rolleyes
Shopping list
Battery charger - am thinking about the hein gerick one
4 ngk CR8E spark plugs
Multi meter -but what tests to do and what reading should I see
A fully charged battery should show 12.8 volts,any less and it means either a knackered battery or not fully charged,if the battery is tired the starter may take all the juice leaving nothing spare for the ignition system
It turned over good to start off but on reflection did drop off I suppose quite quickly after a few attemps - it still turns over but quite slow now
Going to get a charger and whilst that is doing its job will be fitting new sparkplugs
Any reason not to get the hein gerick one as for me in leicester I can get hold of that tomorrow - so long as they are in stock, not sure where to get the optimate 4 one that quick

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 17 January 2012, 10:10:28 pm »
Don't suppose you have a multimeter do you?

A battery takes a massive hamering to start the bike - while it may be retaining enough juice from the last time you ran it to get it to start once (or twice in your case), but it knackers a cell, and then you don't start again...

Brace - that'll teach me to read more carefully, hadn't seen the bit about turning over  :rolleyes :rolleyes
Shopping list
Battery charger - am thinking about the hein gerick one
4 ngk CR8E spark plugs
Multi meter -but what tests to do and what reading should I see

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help me find a battery charger
« on: 17 January 2012, 09:56:04 pm »
reading now

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 17 January 2012, 09:50:45 pm »
Can go 3-4 weeks between rides but if that is the case I am always mindful and try and make sure that I have a good blast.
Why would a week battery that turns over the bike as normal (at 1st anyway ) not then fire it up.
If it is say a blocked filter - tank or inline then the pump would not do its clicky thing would it, that all sounded normal --fast clicks slowing fast then no more each time I turned on the ignition in between start trys 

Ignor these photos as I am just dropping them here to use later, because when I add as an attachment I am limited to the amount of phots and I can not add any text inbetween when I add via attachments so by placing them here first I can cut and past to the post I need them
   

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help me find a battery charger
« on: 17 January 2012, 09:44:34 pm »
Will it do my carr when needed too

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help me find a battery charger
« on: 17 January 2012, 08:48:55 pm »
Ok 1 tick in the box for that one ---any others

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FZS600 Fazer / Help me find a battery charger
« on: 17 January 2012, 08:36:06 pm »
Never needed one befor as I always made sure that I did not leave it too long between rides but I have just had a starting problem and now need one what do you think of this
Hein Gericke Professional battery charger  this one --http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/hein-gericke-professional-battery-charger-fur-motorrad-und-auto.html

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FZS600 Fazer / Turns over but wont fire up fzs 600 (98)
« on: 17 January 2012, 08:30:56 pm »
Was a member of the old forum now this. To save any questions --History first Had the bike 11 years - never seen rain or wet with me, damp cloth at worse. I replaced with braided hoses and done the light mod about 5 years ago. Don't ride much, bought with 5k on the clock and now still only on 15k. Always ridden in the winter so long as dry.(rather do this that just stand and warm it up.) I keep it in a anal clean condition in a garage Never had a starting problem -in fact almost starts as my thumb just gets near the button, as if to say "come on come on ---lets go" Never replaced the battery or spark plugs or air filter as aint broke -didn't fixit. PROBLEM Last time I went out it was a little stubborn to start- I thought it may be because it had been a little longer this time since last started. Anyway started and off I went - stopped once or twice with no problems restarting. Today would not start, ignition all as normal, lights ect with the pump clicking away as normal turns over as normal but would not fire up, took out spark plugs and saw no obvious problems cleaned them a bit and put back and tried some more, now battery almost flat.           1st thing I am going to do is get a battery charger I will post another thread for help on that one. Then a set of spark plugs Any other ideas

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