In the 2014 independance referendum Scotland also voted by just over 55% to REMAIN in the UK union .
And Remain didn't/aren't?!
that ministers cant do the same today..recognise we have made a decision, and whether they are happy with it or not, pull together to get the best outcome for the people they represent, us.
Why is it that one member of this union thinks it has the right to dictate to all other members?
So.Me and the missus were sat in Costa (upstairs in Next) having a lovely coffee together. Sat in a window seat with with a view out over the car park (not the greatest view in the world) but enjoying watching the world go by at the end of the working day, pointing out different cars we like or dislike, what we'd buy if we could afford it and, if we're lucky, get to see the odd motorbike or two.So far so good.And then, one of my REAL pet hates, a 40 something woman turns up in a Ford KA and jumps out in her velour tracksuit, obviously nothing wrong with her, and dashes into Next to buy herself something nice, after making a foccin' awful attempt at parking her car in between the bay lines, in a disabled space, which is really wide to allow genuinely disabled people enough room to exit and get back into their cars - see pic a.To top it all off she's got a disabled badge on the dashboard which obviously isn't hers so she has probably borrowed the car & its badge off a relative or someone she knows.Really grips my sh!t Then a few minutes later, just after I've finished venting my spleen to the missus, another 40 something woman does exactly the same by parking next to the first one but this one doesn't even have the courtesy to display a disabled badge FFS!!!! - see pic b.It's not as if the car park was anywhere near full either - just pure laziness and not giving a foc about others.I hate it.
Nope.
Military conquest. You were weaker. Fancy another go? QuoteWrong! It was a voluntary union, because Scotland was broke. And we'd already taken on their King. So call it a reverse take over
Wrong! It was a voluntary union, because Scotland was broke. And we'd already taken on their King. So call it a reverse take over
Fair point about not all disabilities being visible Darrsi but the way these two jumped out of their cars and were rushing into Next, I don't think either of them had any breathing difficulties
Quote from: agricola on 31 October 2018, 09:42:06 amand what should have happened is everyone pulling together to deliver what the majority voted for. Instead, those opposed to Brexit have conspired to weaken our position through constant sniping. When we originally voted to join the Common Market, we all accepted the decision and tried to make the best from it, no sniping/bitching/most people on our street voting against etc etc.that's all im trying to say too. our politicians used to be able to do it, but it seems they aren't capable nowWhen Neville Chamberlain became pm in '37, his premiership was dominated by his foreign policy towards an ever aggressive Germany under Adold Hitler. When he realised his "appeasement" policy (for which he will always be remembered for sadly), wasn't working and Germany invaded Poland in '39 bringing us into the war he stuck it out a bit longer then resigned in early 1940 as the allies were being forced to retreat from Norway because (and this is all im asking for from all governing parties now) he believed that a government supported by all parties was essential, and the Labour and Liberal parties would not join a Government headed by him. Although succeeded by Churchill, he remained vey well thought of,especially by tories, and became an important member of churchills war cabinet.And that's what gets my goat.that ministers cant do the same today..recognise we have made a decision, and whether they are happy with it or not, pull together to get the best outcome for the people they represent, us.
and what should have happened is everyone pulling together to deliver what the majority voted for. Instead, those opposed to Brexit have conspired to weaken our position through constant sniping. When we originally voted to join the Common Market, we all accepted the decision and tried to make the best from it, no sniping/bitching/most people on our street voting against etc etc.
Yes, absolutely. If the result had been the other way, those who voted out would have buckled down and got on with it, and it would have been Italy, or Spain, or Greece, perhaps Poland or Hungary, that would be the first to leave.
Quote Nope. Noting your lack of detailed response
Quote from: Dynspud on 31 October 2018, 06:36:17 pmSo.Me and the missus were sat in Costa (upstairs in Next) having a lovely coffee together. Sat in a window seat with with a view out over the car park (not the greatest view in the world) but enjoying watching the world go by at the end of the working day, pointing out different cars we like or dislike, what we'd buy if we could afford it and, if we're lucky, get to see the odd motorbike or two.So far so good.And then, one of my REAL pet hates, a 40 something woman turns up in a Ford KA and jumps out in her velour tracksuit, obviously nothing wrong with her, and dashes into Next to buy herself something nice, after making a foccin' awful attempt at parking her car in between the bay lines, in a disabled space, which is really wide to allow genuinely disabled people enough room to exit and get back into their cars - see pic a.To top it all off she's got a disabled badge on the dashboard which obviously isn't hers so she has probably borrowed the car & its badge off a relative or someone she knows.Really grips my sh!t Then a few minutes later, just after I've finished venting my spleen to the missus, another 40 something woman does exactly the same by parking next to the first one but this one doesn't even have the courtesy to display a disabled badge FFS!!!! - see pic b.It's not as if the car park was anywhere near full either - just pure laziness and not giving a foc about others.I hate it.I agree with what you say, but not everyone "looks" disabled.They may have a breathing condition that is worse some days than others for example.
At the end of the day the indisputable facts are that Leave won, Remain lost and we're coming out
Really? The fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists of UKIP would have just shrugged their shoulders and said “Oh well, that’s that.”
The EU is 28 counties, trading freely without any restrictions. If they were 28 separate countries, you would have 28 separate trade laws, 28 separate legal systems to deal with, 28 separate governments to deal with. As a manufacturing business for example, if you wished to trade with all, you might need 28 different versions of your product to pass 28 different safety standards. You also need 28 separate trade deals.
It is not just fundamentally stupid to leave the EU, not to mention doing so after investing 40 years building it, but incredibly selfish.
And if we leave, the UK will suffer economically.
But don’t forget that the Jacob Rees Moggs etc of the Tory party would like nothing more than to the see the ordinary people of this country down on their knees begging for their next fucking meal. These people intend to become even richer and even more powerful through BREXIT.
Blimey. That sounds just like the last LOFO day out to David Silvers.
That's looking at it from a Remain "shoot down Brexit" point of view.
Or rather, I fail to see why independent nations can't work out advantageous systems together on other things too, where it benefits all - security in the face of modern threats for instance.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. You can't prove one way or the other. Even the top economic heads say they don't know for sure - how could they, when a deal has yet to be worked out?
The ones who will lose face are the current sensationalists, like yourself. You should relax about it more. Have another spliff! Oh, wait, you can't - as a political animal, you think spliffs are bad, very, very baaad!
Yep we are indeed coming out. If only somebody had a map of where we're going. It's like leading a bike ride and you lose 48% of the riders at the first roundabout, and find yourself ending up in some dead end industrial estate
Yep we are indeed coming out.