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Title: Giff Gaff
Post by: maddog04 on 05 August 2014, 05:05:41 pm
I'm looking for a sim only deal at the mo with unlimited data and a quick search shows Giff Gaff at £12 pm
anyone tried these or have any thoughts, currently on Orange/EE as is my lad but reception is piss poor in the house (never had an issue with o2)
 
cheers
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: mickvp on 05 August 2014, 05:08:55 pm
GiffGaff use the O2 carrier signal, so if you get a sigfnla on O2 you should not have any issues - never been with them personally though.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Rexr on 05 August 2014, 05:24:56 pm
My m8 uses the giff gaff sims and he's happy enough, when my contract finishes I'll be switching to them.....
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 05 August 2014, 05:45:16 pm
My dad switched to Gif Gaf a while ago and keeps going on about it. SIM onlyo n O2 is a similar price. Note sure about the data volume though.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: baggy on 05 August 2014, 05:49:34 pm
I was on GIF GAFF last year and there were 4 times when they had issues and all services were off with no services working. They run on O2 network so if they have issues or high volume they stop GIFf GAFF customers before their own.


I switched to 3 mobile. 12 month SIM only contract, 500MB data, 200 minutes, 2000 texts £6.50 a month
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 05 August 2014, 07:30:48 pm
I was previously an Orange customer before switching to O2 in January... I wish I hadn't...

O2's quality is fine in terms of internet speed, but any time I head in to the countryside the signal becomes patchy and my phone becomes useless for anything internet related. I can still make and receive calls and texts, but internet services are out the window.

I've heard a lot of good things about 3 from friends and colleagues so it's something I'll be looking to move two in 18 months time...
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: headgonekneedown on 05 August 2014, 07:35:34 pm
dead eye. do you have a iphone 5 ?
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 05 August 2014, 11:41:41 pm
Nope, I now have a Galaxy Note 3 - huge handset and I love it ^^ I had a Galaxy S2 before hand


I find it ironic that as far as I'm concerned Apple is "the dark side" yet most of their products have historically been white...
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: maddog04 on 06 August 2014, 12:06:06 pm
what's the note 3 like, I have an s2 at the mo and tho I'm after a sim only for now; I will look at a phone before xmas
thinking about s4/5
note 3
LG g3
M8
any thoughts anyone?
 
for those using giffgaff, do you just contact them and get the sim sent out and pop it in, I want to be on a rolling month so if I see a good phone deal then I can move?
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Fazafou on 06 August 2014, 01:49:34 pm
You can order a SIM simply enough through my link here:
 
https://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/nogginphone (https://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/nogginphone)
 
I think you get a free £5 when you get this and no cost for the SIM card :)
 
I joined a month or two ago and initial experience is good however there are things you should be aware of as it came as a surprise to me - sorry if you know all this.
 
Giff Gaff is an online only service, run by members through a community style forum.
 
You can earn money back through helping people on the forum and you can ask for help which is usually provided pretty quickly, but......
 
If you have an issue, you can't just ring someone for help, instead you post a question to an 'agent' and then wait up to 24 hours for a response or them to sort out the problem.
 
I had a few reasons to get in touch and they always sorted the issue no problem, however, I had to wait a few hours and you don't know when anything is happening, so a bit frustrating if you're used to just shouting at a call centre and getting some action.
 
A good point however is a very nice Giff Gaff app to monitor your balance.
 
Also you can buy monthly 'goody bags' containing your preferred service e.g. 300 mins, unlimited texts etc.
 
The nice thing with this is its completely flexible in that you may know next month will be a quiet one, so you drop to PAYG, but then you want a lot of talk time so get the appropriate service just for that month.
 
You can set these to recur so it act's like a normal account, or just play around with the services how you want :)
 
Once I got used to the fact you get help through the forum, and accustomed to the website which can be hard to navigate initially, I really like it.  Coverage is generally good (O2 as said above) and the flexibility is really nice.
 
Also, when you have a rolling monthly goody bag, you can also store normal PAYG airtime.  This can be used as backup in case you run out of minutes or go abroad and need to cover some roaming fee's for example.  Through the App, its really easy to see the account balance and I now prefer to other services I've used.
 
At the very worst, if you don't like it you can drop out easily anytime, especially if you do the PAYG service :)
 
I've been on a learning curve with the service so drop me a PM if you need to know anything specifically with the service or using the website.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: maddog04 on 06 August 2014, 02:03:04 pm
cheers Fazer, I'm looking at the £12 goodybag
I barely use talk time so 200/250 minutes is ample, texts will also be enough.............opting for it due to unlimited data bit
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 06 August 2014, 03:06:33 pm
what's the note 3 like, I have an s2 at the mo and tho I'm after a sim only for now; I will look at a phone before xmas
thinking about s4/5
note 3
LG g3
M8
any thoughts anyone?
 
for those using giffgaff, do you just contact them and get the sim sent out and pop it in, I want to be on a rolling month so if I see a good phone deal then I can move?

I did like my S2 but it got to a point where the battery was only barely enough - it used to run out every day and I'm not a particularly heavy user.

My Note 3 I do love - its one annoying feature is also one of its best which is the screen. If you have small pockets, you'll hate it because you have to take it out of your pocket to sit down - for the most part this doesn't affect me. As its a bigger handset, they can fit a larger battery so it easily lasts 3-4 days for me. Even with very heavy use I can usually get 2 days out of it.

I've heard good things about the S4 / S5 - the S4 had its initial issues with the glass top layer coming away from the handset (though this might have been the S3) but that was resolved fairly quickly. The S5 is too new for me to have an first hand impressions as I only know one person with one and he's only had it for about a week.

The other handsets I don't really know anything significant about. I've generally stayed with Samsung as it's what I've become used to. I'm occasionally tempted by a Windows Phone, but they just aren't well enough established to cater for the apps that I like to use.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: mickvp on 06 August 2014, 04:29:49 pm
what's the note 3 like, I have an s2 at the mo and tho I'm after a sim only for now; I will look at a phone before xmas
thinking about s4/5
note 3
LG g3
M8
any thoughts anyone?
 
for those using giffgaff, do you just contact them and get the sim sent out and pop it in, I want to be on a rolling month so if I see a good phone deal then I can move?

In short - It depends what your looking for! the best two phones on that list in regards to technical ability and speed/power are the Galaxy S5, and the HTC One M8.

If your looking for build quality and "premium" feel, the HTC One M8 is light years ahead (all metal body, whereas the S4/S5 are both pretty flimsy plastic designs). Another contender not on your list with a premium feel is the Sony Xperia Z2 (glass/metal all round) which is also about as fast as the HTC One M8/S5.

All of the phones on your list will likely do everything you want. dont expect massive battery life from any of them (galaxy Note aside) so expect to be charging the rest daily.

I have a HTC One myself (M7, not a new M8), and although its great in terms of feel, size, build quality, and it does everything I want it to - after 2 HTC's I can say that I wont be buying another. My first HTC (sensation XL) got so bad with the battery I had to charge it almost twice every day, after a few updates it became so bloating with firmware it became woefully slow - there was no processor allowance for future expansion. My HTC One is just back yesterday from being repaired (its only 8 months old). I woke up one morning to find it had turned itself off - never to go back on, it had somehow corrupted its own firmware so I ujst went a week without a phone.

So, No HTC for me. I also wouldnt own a Galaxy S4/S5 either. they are probably the best phones overall in terms of ability, and support, but the poor quality feel for a phone that is £500+ is a deal breaker for me.

My Missus has the Xperia Z2 which is very nice, and also waterproof as well (you can actually dip it right into a bucket of water, not sure why you would want to), so that waterproof-ness appeals in case im on the bike and its not in a waterproof pocket when I get caught in bad weather.

As I say, you probably wont choose a bad one there, it just depends whats most important to you :)
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: maddog04 on 06 August 2014, 06:02:40 pm
Id forgot about the Z2 :rolleyes 
the lad in the shop said he had the Z1 (few months back and the Z2 was due out) and couldn't sing its praises high enough and also banged on about being waterproof..............as a fireman and a biker, that would be more than useful; the S5 has gone the same way...........shouldn't be long before all the top end ones are waterproof
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Fazafou on 06 August 2014, 06:23:33 pm
I recently got the HTC one M8 and have to say it's a blinding phone.

Came from a Samsung and definitely not looking back.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Doddsie on 06 August 2014, 08:21:13 pm
Im on sim only with Virgin, £15 a month, unlimited everything.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Fazafou on 06 August 2014, 08:35:27 pm
Im on sim only with Virgin, £15 a month, unlimited everything.
I was on that, very disappointing.

Poor signal coverage, signal dropouts with ages before phone could find the signal.

Was my main reason for moving over to GG.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Andy FZS on 06 August 2014, 08:51:11 pm
Interesting to read all the above as my contract ends soon and to be honest I'm in no hurry to change my s3 as it's a good phone. So I think I'll also give gif gaf a go on £12 / month deal that will save me enough to fill my tank every month for another ride out :)
Andy
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: nitemare on 06 August 2014, 08:59:54 pm
I use Giff Gaff on an old Nokia E5. My wife and friends are on it so free calls & text to them. Also if someone calls me I get credit, got 18minutes because someone called me with a computer problem. I use the cheapest £5 on auto, might switch to £7.50.

Yes runs over O2. Not had problems so far. Also you don't have to unlock an O2 phone to use GiffGaff.

Recommend it.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Doddsie on 06 August 2014, 09:35:45 pm
Im on sim only with Virgin, £15 a month, unlimited everything.
I was on that, very disappointing.

Poor signal coverage, signal dropouts with ages before phone could find the signal.

Was my main reason for moving over to GG.


Never had any problems at all with mine.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: richfzs on 06 August 2014, 09:45:10 pm
Nor me with my Virgin sim card...
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 06 August 2014, 10:15:15 pm
Ahh, Virgin brings back some good memories from school... they had the summer of free texts (in like 2005 or 2006) to other Virgin customers so naturally every single student had a Virgin sim card with 0 credit on it :P
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Doddsie on 06 August 2014, 11:47:26 pm
Dont remember too many virgins at my school!!!
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 07 August 2014, 09:06:01 am
Huh... maybe my school had better standards than I thought for...  :lol
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: darrsi on 07 August 2014, 09:42:22 am
what's the note 3 like, I have an s2 at the mo and tho I'm after a sim only for now; I will look at a phone before xmas
thinking about s4/5
note 3
LG g3
M8
any thoughts anyone?
 
for those using giffgaff, do you just contact them and get the sim sent out and pop it in, I want to be on a rolling month so if I see a good phone deal then I can move?

I did like my S2 but it got to a point where the battery was only barely enough - it used to run out every day and I'm not a particularly heavy user.

My Note 3 I do love - its one annoying feature is also one of its best which is the screen. If you have small pockets, you'll hate it because you have to take it out of your pocket to sit down - for the most part this doesn't affect me. As its a bigger handset, they can fit a larger battery so it easily lasts 3-4 days for me. Even with very heavy use I can usually get 2 days out of it.

I've heard good things about the S4 / S5 - the S4 had its initial issues with the glass top layer coming away from the handset (though this might have been the S3) but that was resolved fairly quickly. The S5 is too new for me to have an first hand impressions as I only know one person with one and he's only had it for about a week.

The other handsets I don't really know anything significant about. I've generally stayed with Samsung as it's what I've become used to. I'm occasionally tempted by a Windows Phone, but they just aren't well enough established to cater for the apps that I like to use.


I'm still using an S2, but i bought a big bastard battery for it. (technical term)
Normal one is 1650mAh, but the one i got is 4800mAh.
It's obviously a thicker battery, so you get a new back plate for the phone, which rules out all your fancy cases as well, but it made a huge difference on battery life.
I just use one of the pull up pouches to protect it.
Ideally you should get a new battery every couple of years as well.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: fireblake on 07 August 2014, 11:09:00 am
Phone signals are a bastid. I used to be on 02 but never could get a signal in my house, although just outside it was great. Now on Orange/EE and its pretty damn perfect everywhere i go. My question is, Would getting a few Sim cards on PAYG be the best way to find out if you can receive a signal at your most traveled to areas like home, work, Mum's house? Rather than getting a new 2 year deal only to find it doesn't give a great signal at home. Are the cheap Sims the same as Monthly Sims in terms of signal for phones and Internet?


Mickey
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Tefer on 07 August 2014, 11:39:03 am
I am on GiffGaff.


The network can drop off, has a couple of times in the time I've been with them but its not been for that long to be fair. Its not a business phone so if i get knocked of for a couple of hours its too bad a problem for me. For what you get its awesome in my view, girlfriends contract with )2 ran out and she asked what she could get and they said, just what's online. So she went to GiffGaff and has no problems on her Iphone.


Although unlimited, no tethering on the mobile sim cards, not sure if thats a problem?
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Davebo on 08 August 2014, 10:08:00 am
Most networks will have a coverage checker so if you contact Customer services they can tell you what to expect. It's not as reliable as actually testing it yourself obviously.

If you get duff signal at home but have WiFi there are boost boxes available to create a mini cell site in your home and there's also products like Tu Go that use the wifi direct.

I suppose I should declare an interest here though as I work for Telefonica (home of O2 and giffgaff).
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 08 August 2014, 10:15:29 am
I believe it was 3 that were looking in to using your home Internet / WiFi network to transmit the GSM signal required for calls and texts in the absence of a cell signal. Obviously 3G and 4G tech is irrelevant as they are primarily data handling networks and if you are connected to WiFi then you are fine. It's a fairly good stop-gap measure for residents who only have issues at their home / office or other fixed locations.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: goldfazer on 10 August 2014, 04:10:51 pm
I believe it was 3 that were looking in to using your home Internet / WiFi network to transmit the GSM signal required for calls and texts in the absence of a cell signal. Obviously 3G and 4G tech is irrelevant as they are primarily data handling networks and if you are connected to WiFi then you are fine. It's a fairly good stop-gap measure for residents who only have issues at their home / office or other fixed locations.

I've had a Vodafone SureSignal for a few years which does exactly that. Only it doesn't. It's crap. It may be OK if there really is  no other signal, but I've now turned it off and get much better reception on a very weak 'proper' signal!
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: mickvp on 10 August 2014, 04:43:35 pm
I believe it was 3 that were looking in to using your home Internet / WiFi network to transmit the GSM signal required for calls and texts in the absence of a cell signal. Obviously 3G and 4G tech is irrelevant as they are primarily data handling networks and if you are connected to WiFi then you are fine. It's a fairly good stop-gap measure for residents who only have issues at their home / office or other fixed locations.

I've had a Vodafone SureSignal for a few years which does exactly that. Only it doesn't. It's crap. It may be OK if there really is  no other signal, but I've now turned it off and get much better reception on a very weak 'proper' signal!

Orange/T-mobile/EE also have the "signal box" which does the same thing, utilizes wifi to give a good signal - its about as reliable as the vodafone one in my experience, and you really do need a minimum of 2-3MBps broadband for it to work at all.

Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: fireblake on 10 August 2014, 07:03:48 pm
it sounds similar to 3G, when the is the faintest sniff of WIFI the fecking thing don't work. A real pain to have to turn the WIFI off as I always forget to put it on again and munch up most of my allowance downloading stuff thinking tge WIFI is on.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: goldfazer on 10 August 2014, 08:49:45 pm
No - this is a box that is a femto cell (low power base station) the connects to the Vodafone etc. network over the internet. Nowt to do with WiFi. Great idea if it worked properly.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: mickvp on 10 August 2014, 08:55:17 pm
No - this is a box that is a femto cell (low power base station) the connects to the Vodafone etc. network over the internet. Nowt to do with WiFi. Great idea if it worked properly.


it still works through your wifi and plugs into the router though? the EE one does for sure, and Im sure my old vodafone signal box was the same (I ended up leaving vodafone as i couldnt get a sugnal at home at all, and even with a signal box it was really spotty):

http://ee.co.uk/help/mobile-and-home-connections/checking-and-improving-your-network-coverage/signal-box (http://ee.co.uk/help/mobile-and-home-connections/checking-and-improving-your-network-coverage/signal-box)

As I say, the EE one is pretty rubbish as well.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: goldfazer on 10 August 2014, 09:01:18 pm
Nope, no wifi, just plugs into the router.
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: mickvp on 10 August 2014, 09:04:34 pm
Nope, no wifi, just plugs into the router.

ahh.. it DOES work the same, its just me being a bit thick and referring to my broadband as "wifi" rather than "broadband" :lol
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: Dead Eye on 10 August 2014, 10:30:28 pm
The femto cells do work differently - they broadcast an actual GSM signal and route that via the internet. I remember a company I used to work for used the Vodafone one and the main issue was nearly always the femto cell itself
Title: Re: Giff Gaff
Post by: goldfazer on 11 August 2014, 09:18:30 am
I know - that's why I described it as ' femto cell (low power base station) that connects to the Vodafone etc. network over the internet. Nowt to do with WiFi. Great idea if it worked properly.'  :)