Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Gary on 21 July 2014, 08:14:24 pm
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Well guys ... hoping to get a set of braided lines for my bike. I see Wezmoto have 2 listed for my 2006 FZ1. A 2 and 3 front kit ... Why the need for the 3rd line? :\
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to join them up mate Y
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I get that .. but whats the difference between these ..
http://www.wezmoto.co.uk/yamaha-fz1-fazer-2006-2008-full-length-race-layout-2-front-lines.html (http://www.wezmoto.co.uk/yamaha-fz1-fazer-2006-2008-full-length-race-layout-2-front-lines.html)
http://www.wezmoto.co.uk/yamaha-fz1-s-fazer-faired-2006-2008-full-length-race-layout-3-front-lines.html (http://www.wezmoto.co.uk/yamaha-fz1-s-fazer-faired-2006-2008-full-length-race-layout-3-front-lines.html)
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The two line kit both attach at the master cylinder. The 3 line has a single line running from the master cylinder, but it splits half way down the forks as per the OEM jobbies (it utilises the T-piece from the OEM brakes)
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Ah right so .. Thanks for the replys
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So is one kit more effective than the other? Looking to replace my lines and was thinking of the two line kit.
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In my experience they are both an improvement over OEM and there is not a great deal of difference between the two. I'm sure I read somewhere that the 2 line kit is used in race applications because if the system develops a leak you only lose the function of one caliper, but I'm not sure if it would work like that in practice.
I prefer the 3 line kit as it looks a bit cleaner to me and its easier to route the lines, the 2 line kit I had on my 600 always looked a bit messy.
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In my experience they are both an improvement over OEM and there is not a great deal of difference between the two. I'm sure I read somewhere that the 2 line kit is used in race applications because if the system develops a leak you only lose the function of one caliper, but I'm not sure if it would work like that in practice.
I prefer the 3 line kit as it looks a bit cleaner to me and its easier to route the lines, the 2 line kit I had on my 600 always looked a bit messy.
as the master cylinder is one cylinder if one side develops a leak it will affect the other caliper, you will lose all brake power. The fluid will go to the easiest route.
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The 'race' configuration isn't indicative of performance it's simply a regulation by the ACU (and others) not allowing a split line (I can't recall if it doesn't allow any splitting or just below the bottom yoke). It reduces the risk of line damage in the event of a broken mudguard/debris/incident.
Actually, I think the Fazer 1000 (gen 1 at least) has a 'race' compliant setup as the splitter is above the bottom yoke but bikes that have one line going to one calliper then the other looping off that banjo, over the mudguard into the other are not (ie like a gsxr1000rr).
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The Venhill kits are good. They have swivelling banjos (squeal like a piggy Cletus?) which means you don't have to worry about the lines twisting depending on routing or accuracy of assembly. I put them on my gen 1 and they were easy.
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There is a discount from HEL for forum users....think 10% was on offer and they also have the banjos that swivel to ease fitting...I have their three line kit on.
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A note of caution on all aftermarket brake line kits:
Before fitting. Check the Banjo bolts for swarf & burrs on the cross-drilled holes.
- I've had burrs and loose swarf present 'straight out the bag'; that happen from two different 'reputable' suppliers!
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Well guys ... hoping to get a set of braided lines for my bike. I see Wezmoto have 2 listed for my 2006 FZ1. A 2 and 3 front kit ... Why the need for the 3rd line? :\
I got a set of a 3 line Goodridge black sheathed for the front including banjos all, you need is copper washers pm me if you are interested?
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http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8879.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8879.0.html)
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Wezmoto use the same parts and factory as Hel, if one is cheaper than the other the only difference will be the branding.
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[url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8879.0.html[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8879.0.html[/url])
The discount section has been removed when ordering .. not sure if there offering the deal by phone still.
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Well guys ... hoping to get a set of braided lines for my bike. I see Wezmoto have 2 listed for my 2006 FZ1. A 2 and 3 front kit ... Why the need for the 3rd line? :\
I got a set of a 3 line Goodridge black sheathed for the front including banjos all, you need is copper washers pm me if you are interested?
Capt, would the line lengths be suitable to swap between a gen 1 & gen 2??
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Oops, should have read what your bike was, they where off a Gen 1 & not sure how similar they are.
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Well guys another question - I will probably get somebody to fit these (just had delivery of them yesterday) but the original banjo connection at the lever (master cylinder?) is a single line, whereas the new set has 2 lines. Is there anything else needed or would this be a straight forward swap?
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With the new 2 line kit you should have 3 banjo bolts, two the same length (1 for each caliper) and a longer one, with two grooves in it (for the master cylinder), and a pack of copper washers. The oem single line comes off and the two lines go on as per the picture below. It's of my 600 but should be the same for your thou. Just remember to put a copper washer between each piece of metal being joined otherwise you get no end of problems ;-)