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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Johnnylad123 on 25 April 2019, 08:04:20 pm

Title: Ignition Advancer
Post by: Johnnylad123 on 25 April 2019, 08:04:20 pm
I've bought a 4 deg ignition advancer, but when I've tried to fit it I can't get the bolt holding the original to slacken.
I do have an impact driver and an air powered rattle gun but due to it being on the crank end I didn't fancy risking it, what has everyone else used to crack the threadlock??
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: ogri48 on 25 April 2019, 08:52:37 pm
heat will debond threadlock mate
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: mickvp on 25 April 2019, 10:00:01 pm
I’m not recommending you do this, but I just stuck mine in first gear, on side stand, one foot on rear brake and it came loose no bother 😳
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: Johnnylad123 on 25 April 2019, 10:10:09 pm
I tried the in gear and brake method but no joy.


I have a heat gun for paint stripping but given there's oil and the electric pickup in close proximity to the bolt I decided against it! Any recommendation as to what heat source would me much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: unfazed on 25 April 2019, 10:37:56 pm
I've bought a 4 deg ignition advancer, but when I've tried to fit it I can't get the bolt holding the original to slacken.
I do have an impact driver and an air powered rattle gun but due to it being on the crank end I didn't fancy risking it, what has everyone else used to crack the threadlock??
No Thread lock on that bolt (at least there shouldn't be) just 60 Nm of torque. I usually remove the hugger, brush handle through the wheel and rest on the swinging arm, into 4 gear and 1/2 drive and a long breaker bar.
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: ogri48 on 25 April 2019, 11:35:14 pm
eeeek! all sounds very worrying lol. is the advancer worth it? I tried one on my bandit twelve years back and it actually lost bottom end...been sceptical of em ever since
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: Johnnylad123 on 26 April 2019, 07:40:36 am
That's my thoughts now Ogri, it's already cost me a gasket so for all the faff most likely won't do it.
Ebay it is!
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: ogri48 on 26 April 2019, 10:25:00 am
 :thumbup I even had the bandit dynoed at bsd to check, it definitely mullered the bottom end. Though ive read good things on here in the past. I always think my thou has ample bottom  (especially after ivanising it) then I jump on me cb1300 and suddenly the thou lump feels like a sports 600 lol
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: PieEater on 26 April 2019, 11:16:24 am
Advancer gives a noticeable boost to bottom end and makes cold starting a tad easier, trade off is a slight loss of top end but unless you spend the majority of the time caning the bike the benefits easily outway the costs. Having said that I wouldn't say that it's worth risking engine damage to fit and in this case it's probably best leaving well enough alone unless you take it to a shop to have it fitted and they assume all responsibility .........
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: Johnnylad123 on 26 April 2019, 04:35:15 pm
My thoughts exactly PieEater, I reckon the rattle gun would do the trick but at what cost to the bottom end of the motor. Just not worth it I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: kebab19 on 26 April 2019, 06:06:10 pm
Providing you have something to balance it on, you could could rest the tip of a soldering iron to the bolt and leave it touching for for 5 - 10 minutes? It would be a more precise way to apply heat to a specific area without risking damage to the surrounding parts.
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: happycallis on 19 June 2019, 12:47:11 pm
Where does everyone get their advancers from?
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: CatalinU on 10 December 2019, 04:51:40 pm
Been reading this and thinking myself on changing it. What are downsides of having the 4 degree plate on?
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: PieEater on 11 December 2019, 08:44:09 am
Where does everyone get their advancers from?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Y005-YAMAHA-R1-FAZER-1000-CARB-MODELS-4-DEGREE-IGNITION-ADVANCER-ROTOR-/163660231223 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Y005-YAMAHA-R1-FAZER-1000-CARB-MODELS-4-DEGREE-IGNITION-ADVANCER-ROTOR-/163660231223)


Been reading this and thinking myself on changing it. What are downsides of having the 4 degree plate on?
Slight reduction in top end power that in real life you will probably never notice.
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: CatalinU on 11 December 2019, 04:36:30 pm
Ok, will be getting one then. Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: Ignition Advancer
Post by: ogri48 on 12 December 2019, 10:31:01 am
yeah im running one now, I prefer it. along with the ivanising bike starts instantly too.