Gnasher is probably the person to ask about this, as he got me on SBS pads.
Demontweeks normally stock them or ebay. To find SBS pad fittments, go for the number i.e Fazer front 634, rear 570 on their website, then scroll down and it will give you a list of all the bikes using the same pads. SBS OE fitment is front HS and rear HF. SBS pads are HF non sinter FF, HS sinter, SP = HH, listed as 'street' Some stockist list pads say for an R1, FZS100, XJR1200/1300 etc but not, FZS600 but they're the same pads, but my not be the same rating i.e. HH for front not GG. See here https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/634hsPad ratings or letter codes are FF, GG, HH or HG, GH etc, each letter is a friction coefficient, 1st letter is 'cold' 2nd 'hot'. Fazer std is FF rear non sinter and GG front sinter, most production/street bikes are the same although a lot of pure sports bikes use HH sinter fronts, ceramic is non sinter.Avoid RST listed as 'racing' these are really entry level track pads, they're not so good on cold/wet or in the wet until heated, DON'T ever fit their DC, DS-1 or 2, for street use, these are pure racing pads, they need to be hot before they work. i.e. you'll be hitting the first car in front of you as he stops, or you need to be braking twice the distance, I kid you not
or ebay.
Quote from: Gnasher on 17 April 2021, 01:35:39 pmor ebay. Once you know which SBS part number you need, you can hunt around. I got a set for my bandit 1250 dirt cheap of ebay.
Out of interest though Gnasher, what compound are Yamaha OEM pads on the rear of 600's, i couldn't find that info out?
Fazer std is FF rear non sinter
Quote from: darrsi on 17 April 2021, 03:40:54 pmOut of interest though Gnasher, what compound are Yamaha OEM pads on the rear of 600's, i couldn't find that info out?You didn't read my last now did you Quote from: Gnasher on 17 April 2021, 01:35:39 pm Fazer std is FF rear non sinter
You wrote "non sinter". That means they're not sintered, so what are they then? I know Ceramic comes under non sintered, but you weren't exactly clear what compound the OEM ones are?
Quote from: darrsi on 17 April 2021, 07:27:07 pmYou wrote "non sinter". That means they're not sintered, so what are they then? I know Ceramic comes under non sintered, but you weren't exactly clear what compound the OEM ones are?You didn't read it again, did you Quote from: Gnasher on 17 April 2021, 01:35:39 pm Fazer std is FF rear non sinter FF
Did you not read my posts?
I can read perfectly well actually, and as mentioned I've already purchased the Ceramic ones, so the answer i'm looking for is for everyone's benefit for now really, and maybe mine if they are even more difficult to find next time i need some.
Quote from: darrsi on 18 April 2021, 06:51:03 amI can read perfectly well actually, and as mentioned I've already purchased the Ceramic ones, so the answer i'm looking for is for everyone's benefit for now really, and maybe mine if they are even more difficult to find next time i need some.Oh dear There's 2 types of pad non sinter and sinter. The former (non sinter) is broken down into 2 levels of hardness, organic (soft) ceramic (harder), the latter should produce less dust, reduce disc wear and perform better. Some manufacturers use organic/ceramic as a name and/or mix in kevlar or other materials (EBC) and don't always tell you in the sales blurb, what rating the pad is, just its their OE replacement, albeit it will be stamped on the pad. Some will claim lower, wear, noise and increased performance for any given pad based on their tests etc. A lot of it is subjective at best, some utter distortion. Braking is stopping, but the how you stop is a personnel thing i.e. initial bite, progressive feel, lack of fade, outright stopping power and wear rates. It's these areas where lower rating and cheaper pads won't cut it, as it's all a trade off to achieve performance in road conditions. i.e. wet, cold, hot, weight of machine, riding styles etc. Racing/track is very different, SBS do rain pads, hot dry pads etc. As with everything there's a range or spec for performance cheaper pads will be just in or on spec, some Chinese knock offs will not and are just bloody dangerous. Where as SBS and a few others, will easily exceed any given spec and they have a bigger range of pads for any given caliper.If economy is paramount to you and your riding style reflects that, buy cheaper. Economy parts will work but not to the level top end will/do, if you change your riding style economy starts working against you. Some non-sinter pads eat discs, as do some sintered cheap ones, it's cheaper because it's lower spec, often you'll use more as well.You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Quote from: darrsi on 17 April 2021, 06:31:19 pmDid you not read my posts? yeah, dont just use google. Use other search engines, price comparison websites etc. I assume the part number is SBS 570HF (https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hf)? Did a search for that make/pn - £16 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SBS-570HF-Front-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-Yamaha-RD-350-TZR-125-SRX-LC-TDR-XJ-FZ-YPVS/274630881324?epid=1317403849
I was after rear pads, these are front.
Quote from: b1k3rdude on 18 April 2021, 09:28:21 amQuote from: darrsi on 17 April 2021, 06:31:19 pmDid you not read my posts? yeah, dont just use google. Use other search engines, price comparison websites etc. I assume the part number is SBS 570HF (https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hf)? Did a search for that make/pn - £16 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SBS-570HF-Front-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-Yamaha-RD-350-TZR-125-SRX-LC-TDR-XJ-FZ-YPVS/274630881324?epid=1317403849I was after rear pads, these are front unfortunately.Shame 'cos i would've bought them as well if they were rear ones at that price.
Quote from: darrsi on 18 April 2021, 12:20:55 pmI was after rear pads, these are front. Check the link to the SBS website above, its show the 570HF the FZS600 2001, rear - - https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hfThe fronts in ceramic from the SBS website are - - https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/634hfYou never mention what bike its for, so from your profile I made the assumption it was for your 2001 FZS600?
Quote from: darrsi on 18 April 2021, 12:20:55 pmQuote from: b1k3rdude on 18 April 2021, 09:28:21 amQuote from: darrsi on 17 April 2021, 06:31:19 pmDid you not read my posts? yeah, dont just use google. Use other search engines, price comparison websites etc. I assume the part number is SBS 570HF (https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/570hf)? Did a search for that make/pn - £16 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SBS-570HF-Front-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-Yamaha-RD-350-TZR-125-SRX-LC-TDR-XJ-FZ-YPVS/274630881324?epid=1317403849I was after rear pads, these are front unfortunately.Shame 'cos i would've bought them as well if they were rear ones at that price. The links provided are for rear pads
As mentioned earlier use the number to search for the pad on SBS website and you get a full list of what other bike uses a pad, that could be front or rear. Perhaps you need to read things thoroughly, before going off half cocked I'm bored with this now.