Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: sinto on 07 November 2015, 08:09:26 pm
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Yes I know it's been covered before but bare with me please......
So I've known I need to get a new chain and sprocket set, but in searching on here and fleebay all I can find is open ended chains where I'd need to rivet to get it closed.
So really, I'm looking for a complete ring where I don't need to close it.
Has anyone ever fitted this sort, where did you get it from? How's it been etc etc?
Thanks in advance folks :)
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as far as I know (that's not very far) theres no such thing? chain is made in a long length and has to be joined together, the reason being that you would have have to at least take the swingarm out to fit a joined up one, if it's that you don't fancy doing it yourself then take it to a workshop or buy one from somewhere that will rivet it for you.
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as far as I know (that's not very far) theres no such thing? chain is made in a long length and has to be joined together, the reason being that you would have have to at least take the swingarm out to fit a joined up one, if it's that you don't fancy doing it yourself then take it to a workshop or buy one from somewhere that will rivet it for you.
I meant to actually put that in that I will be taking the swingarm off and doing a wee rear end overhaul on it so I'd rather get a closed chain if I can.
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It's an endless chain you're after then Sinto, The bad news is that they're a bit more pricey.
It might be worth looking into a yamaha OE chain? I think they might be endless :)
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It's an endless chain you're after then Sinto, The bad news is that they're a bit more pricey.
It might be worth looking into a yamaha OE chain? I think they might be endless :)
You saying I'm Scottish? :lol
Not bothered about price in relation to cutting off old one, riveting new one etc i think the endless one would be best.
I'll look into Suttons and see what they have.
Cheers celticdog :)
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OMG
Sutton prices.....
Chain £149.47
Rear sprocket £111.18
Front sprocket. £30.02
Total. £290.67
That might be a bit much :(
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Really no need for an endless chain.
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Really no need for an endless chain.
Can you elaborate on this?
I was thinking along the lines of time to break old one, rivet new one etc as I don't have the riveting tools etc :( and the cost to buy them might be as much as getting the endless chain.
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https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/5DMW001A0100/CHAIN%20and%20SPROCKET%20KIT,%20SPARES,%20FZS600%20Fazer,%20FZS600SP%20Fazer?gclid=CNys6v6ggMkCFQ26GwodwPEPrQ (https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/5DMW001A0100/CHAIN%20and%20SPROCKET%20KIT,%20SPARES,%20FZS600%20Fazer,%20FZS600SP%20Fazer?gclid=CNys6v6ggMkCFQ26GwodwPEPrQ)
£144 delivered. The genuine chain is endless but the kit does come with a link if you want to split the chain. The front sprocket in this kit is way ahead of any after market one.
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https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/5DMW001A0100/CHAIN%20and%20SPROCKET%20KIT,%20SPARES,%20FZS600%20Fazer,%20FZS600SP%20Fazer?gclid=CNys6v6ggMkCFQ26GwodwPEPrQ (https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/5DMW001A0100/CHAIN%20and%20SPROCKET%20KIT,%20SPARES,%20FZS600%20Fazer,%20FZS600SP%20Fazer?gclid=CNys6v6ggMkCFQ26GwodwPEPrQ)
£144 delivered. The genuine chain is endless but the kit does come with a link if you want to split the chain. The front sprocket in this kit is way ahead of any after market one.
Thanks griff86,
That looks just the job, I was looking at their parts list, never saw the kit :(
I'll certainly go for that I think :thumbup
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I quite like the Yamaha kit. You get the quieter-running front sprocket and, as you've got to get the swingarm out to fit it, it's a good opportunity to clean and lube the suspension/swingarm bearings at the same time.
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When you say the quieter front sprocket do you mean that it comes with the orange plastic thing as factory fitted. And does anyone know how it makes it quieter.
When I come to do mine this is certainly the way I will be doing it so to re lube the swingarm at the same time
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I quite like the Yamaha kit. You get the quieter-running front sprocket and, as you've got to get the swingarm out to fit it, it's a good opportunity to clean and lube the suspension/swingarm bearings at the same time.
That's the reason I'm looking for the endless chain as I'll be taking the swingarm off :)
You had yours on long fazersharp? Any issues with it?
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Its been there 17 years from the factory -- 15 years with me BUT only done 17k miles (or is it 18k) either way not a lot, so still looking good for now
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Its been there 17 years from the factory -- 15 years with me BUT only done 17k miles (or is it 18k) either way not a lot, so still looking good for now
Ahh right, I was thinking you bought that kit, mines is original I think but it's deffinetly on way out as I'm getting serious tight spots and know I'll need to replace due to previous owners neglect / lack of maintenance. I tried to recover it Ince I got the bike but to no avail :(
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When you say the quieter front sprocket do you mean that it comes with the orange plastic thing as factory fitted. And does anyone know how it makes it quieter.
When I come to do mine this is certainly the way I will be doing it so to re lube the swingarm at the same time
I guess it cuts chain rattle as it cushions the link plates, it probably makes the sprocket less 'ringy' too.
Looking back through my records, I see I fitted mine in March 2012 i.e. 38,000 miles ago. So, no issues with longevity. :)
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I guess it cuts chain rattle as it cushions the link plates, it probably makes the sprocket less 'ringy' too.
Looking back through my records, I see I fitted mine in March 2012 i.e. 38,000 miles ago. So, no issues with longevity. :)
3 1/2 yrs and done 38,000 miles? Your keen :)
Did you fit the above set? Did you come across any issues while fitting it?
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The genuine Fazer600 chain and sprocket kit 5RT-W001A-00 contains a full chain, front silent sprocket and rear sprocket
Compare the prices
http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000 (http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000)
€162,35 including VAT, plus €15 delivery to UK which is about £130
or from AJ Suttoms
https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0 (https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0)
£144.8 including vat and UK delivery
Buying these oem items separately cost twice as much
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Remember the good old days when the chain had just a removable link with a clip to hold it in place?
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The genuine Fazer600 chain and sprocket kit 5RT-W001A-00 contains a full chain, front silent sprocket and rear sprocket
Compare the prices
[url]http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000[/url] ([url]http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000[/url])
€162,35 including VAT, plus €15 delivery to UK which is about £130
or from AJ Suttoms
[url]https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0[/url] ([url]https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0[/url])
£144.8 including vat and UK delivery
Buying these oem items separately cost twice as much
Yeah that's what I discovered earlier, near on £300 for separate items but I never saw the kit till you and griff pointed it out :)
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Remember the good old days when the chain had just a removable link with a clip to hold it in place?
I actually came across said product earlier in my search, so you can still get them :) I think it reminds me yo much like a pushbike chain and thought nope :thumbdown
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Can you buy just the Genuine chain seperately, like the look of those alloy centred steel sprockets, bloody expensive though
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Can you buy just the Genuine chain seperately, like the look of those alloy centred steel sprockets, bloody expensive though
Yes but the chain alone costs £149.47! So why not get the kit and keep/sell the sprockets?
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Remember the good old days when the chain had just a removable link with a clip to hold it in place?
That would indeed make it "the weakest link" and highly unadvisable on a bike capable of high speeds with a heavy chain.
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3 1/2 yrs and done 38,000 miles? Your keen :)
Did you fit the above set? Did you come across any issues while fitting it?
To be fair, 90% of that is commuting mileage. And all but a tiny fraction of the journey is covered by Gatsos and average speed cameras so the bike doesn't exactly get thrashed these days.
I was lucky to find the set at a bargain price on eBay, IIRC I paid less than £80. :)
I think a dealer was clearing old stock from his shelves. No problems with fitting, it's a straightforward job.
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Remember the good old days when the chain had just a removable link with a clip to hold it in place?
That would indeed make it "the weakest link" and highly unadvisable on a bike capable of high speeds with a heavy chain.
Maybe so but thats how they used to come from the factory as well when I was young.
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Just found this. http://m.ebay.de/itm/original-Yamaha-Kettenkit-passend-fuer-FZS600-Fazer-BJ-02-03-NEU-/171990499022?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.de/itm/original-Yamaha-Kettenkit-passend-fuer-FZS600-Fazer-BJ-02-03-NEU-/171990499022?nav=SEARCH)
That's £99 approximately just need to see what postage costs are :)
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OMG
Sutton prices.....
Chain £149.47
Rear sprocket £111.18
Front sprocket. £30.02
Total. £290.67
That might be a bit much :(
Och aye Sinto, that is a bit steep
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OMG
Sutton prices.....
Chain £149.47
Rear sprocket £111.18
Front sprocket. £30.02
Total. £290.67
That might be a bit much :(
Och aye Sinto, that is a bit steep
Especially for a Scotsman :lol
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Remember the good old days when the chain had just a removable link with a clip to hold it in place?
That would indeed make it "the weakest link" and highly unadvisable on a bike capable of high speeds with a heavy chain.
Maybe so but thats how they used to come from the factory as well when I was young.
I'm not gonna ask when that was. :lol
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The genuine Fazer600 chain and sprocket kit 5RT-W001A-00 contains a full chain, front silent sprocket and rear sprocket
Compare the prices
[url]http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000[/url] ([url]http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/en/genuine-spare-parts/yamaha-spare-parts?itemid=5RTW001A0000[/url])
€162,35 including VAT, plus €15 delivery to UK which is about £130
or from AJ Suttoms
[url]https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0[/url] ([url]https://www.ajsutton.co.uk/spares/partIMage.asp?GPN=5RTW001A0000&uID=0[/url])
£144.8 including vat and UK delivery
Buying these oem items separately cost twice as much
You guys sure 5RT-W001A-00 contains endless chain? Last time I've called Yamaha Infinity Farnborough shop they have told me it needs riveting?
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Rivet it off the bike then fit it.......simples............... :D :D :D
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Rivet it off the bike then fit it.......simples............... :D :D :D
Too much hassle and as I'm taking off the swingarm it makes sense to go endless :)
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The advantage of removing the swinging arm to fit an endless chain is that you can check and/or regrease/replace the linkage and swinging arm bearing while you have them off. :thumbup
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If ya haven't a riveting tool why not just push a couple of nails through and bend the ends over, couple of stainless ones would look quite nice....................................
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I remember the good old days when a chain was joined with a split link, I also remember the bad old days when the chain snapped at the split link on my 7 month old 250cc starfire? as I was on full throttle I over revved the engine and the conrod came out through the crankcases, the only good thing was that BSA replaced the engine even though you only got 6 months guarantee, however I omited the bit about overrevving the engine, and it was a common fault on them as they had started using an alloy conrod.
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I remember an episode of "Chips" where one used a keyring loop to fix his chain...
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If ya haven't a riveting tool why not just push a couple of nails through and bend the ends over, couple of stainless ones would look quite nice....................................
I know I'm Scottish but not stupid :eek
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The OE spec chain is probably DID ZVM (it is on my thou anyway)
150 quid for DID ZVM chain is probably about right.
Most of the DID 'gold' chain you see on e-bay etc is not ZVM spec.
I'm happy with riveted chain. If you buy the tool you'll use it again and again anyway.
http://www.didchain.com/chainSpecs.html (http://www.didchain.com/chainSpecs.html)
http://www.didchain.com/chainTools.html (http://www.didchain.com/chainTools.html)
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I remember an episode of "Chips" where one used a keyring loop to fix his chain...
That's the spirit. :lol
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alternatively one metal mallet (flat end) or an anvil-like surface, a ball-peen hammer and a set of mole grips will do the job nicely!
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The OE spec chain is probably DID ZVM (it is on my thou anyway)
150 quid for DID ZVM chain is probably about right.
Most of the DID 'gold' chain you see on e-bay etc is not ZVM spec.
I'm happy with riveted chain. If you buy the tool you'll use it again and again anyway.
[url]http://www.didchain.com/chainSpecs.html[/url] ([url]http://www.didchain.com/chainSpecs.html[/url])
[url]http://www.didchain.com/chainTools.html[/url] ([url]http://www.didchain.com/chainTools.html[/url])
The reason I've bought Tsubaki chain was DID tool was too expensive. The tool I've used for Tsubaki chain was only £25 and bear with me is a good quality tool exactly the same Tsubaki use in their chain riveting installation video:
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/chain-tools/warrior-heavy-duty-chain-riveting-vice (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/chain-tools/warrior-heavy-duty-chain-riveting-vice)