possable fuel tank swap

[ghostbiker]

I have an 04 gen 1. silver storm? black engine and black tail rest silver.
due to a recent off  i am trying to decide if i want to touch up the slight cosmetic damage or repair it with a good respray to OE or infact just go for a full respray and colour change.

if i go option 1 or 2 then i will keep my tank as its unmarked and great condition (apart from the tank pad that is starting to show age) but if i go option 3 and a full respray to a new colour then i dont realy want to use me great condition tank.
at that point i might be looking to do a trade with a lightly marked tank (not dented) or just buy a cheap one and throw mine on ebay. they seem to be asking big money for damaged ones on ebay right now though.

I still have to find out the costs of a fair respray, as no one ever seems to want to give me a ball park figure without knowing the exact paint scheme. which i dont know yet. i know it will vary the price but i just dont know what way to go yet, and doubt i will anytime soon as i keep changing my mind everytime a see another bike lol

[garysimmo]

If you are going for a colour change you will be far better off using your  good tank, if you use a damaged tank you run the risk of filler sinking pain,t reaction and all the extra prep time costs money. i've just done a complete colour change (toyota pearl white). Full colour change  you will be looking at approx £80-100 in materials and then  obviously labour on top.

[chitsu]

The £80-100 for materials must only be for a solid or basic mettalic, I am in the process of painting a spare set of panels in a Kenny Roberts style speed block design.The yellow base coat alone was £45. Then there was the Isolater (Bar Coat)  that was another £15, the white primer was £15 then theres the lacquer, thinner, hardener panel wipe, body filler, stopper and then the graphics (appox) £90. So probably close to £200 there alone without including sand paper, scotch brite, tack clothes, compound & finishing glaze.
I did one of these last year but in a pearl, if I remember rightly the pearl was an additional £50 on top of the above stuff.
The red & blue fazer 1000's are originally painted in an 'INK' or this is sometimes reffered to as a 'DYE' this is £100 per litre for the ground coat & ink! (I know this because I painted a friends a couple of weeks ago).
So depending on what you are wanting this is why no one will give you a figure it could be £400 or a £1000 ?
My next set of panels will be painted in a marble effect, for the base coat & marbelizer it will be close to £100 on top of most of the stuff listed above, it's not very cheap if you want it done properly.
 
If your struggling to find some one to paint your bike feel free to PM me with what you have in mind, or if you are in the northwest your more than welcome to pop in.
 
chitsu.

[garysimmo]

No it wasn't for a solid or base metalic like i said just painted my gen1 in a toyota pearl white with a white base including laquer, activator, primer and thinners £80  but then i',m a regular customer so i suppose i may be getting a good deal,and as for 400-1000 for painting a bike sorry never heard anyone paying any where near that.

[chitsu]

Dream machine charge around a £1000 'RETAIL' for a full bike, but then again it all depends on what sort of thing that you are wanting done and to what standard of finish you are happy with ?
 
 Have a look on here some of the basecoats are around £200 a litre and then you need all the other guff to get the necesarry finishes.
http://www.house-of-kolor.co.uk/
As I said in my previous post most of the newer bikes are painted in inks which are atleast £100 a litre, many of the 'CAR' based body supplies specialists dont do these inks, so you end up having to pay more for the materials as they are of a specialist nature.
I cant see any decent painter painting a bike for less than £400 inc materials, we charge £120 for just a fuel tank if it is a basic colour if its an ink or what not then it's plus the additional cost of the ink.
 

[ghostbiker]

Well i was thinking of 3 spray jobs,
#1 just a plain simple gloss black all over, including repair to slight crack around bolt hole on the rear cowl and 1 small scrape and 1 small crack on the front cowl. then throw on some vinal grafix over the top

#2 yellow n black speed block design + the above repairs

# 3 Charcoal black with some kind of design sprayed on + the above repairs lol

#1 i expected to be pretty damn cheap but both the places i have spoken to so far have said a min of £350 (i expected closer to £150 - 200 lol but i havent had a bike sprayed in a few years)

[devilsyam]

ace of sprays bristol i highly recommend

[ghostbiker]

Yeah seen some of his work but when I spoke to him last year he wanted 900 for a simple orange full spray on a mates  naked bike.

His fancy stuff is good and his work on old clasic stuff is Awsome, but he ain't cheap.... Or even reasonable last I heard.
But you pay for quality I suppose.

[chitsu]

Yeah seen some of his work but when I spoke to him last year he wanted 900 for a simple orange full spray on a mates  naked bike.

His fancy stuff is good and his work on old clasic stuff is Awsome, but he ain't cheap.... Or even reasonable last I heard.
But you pay for quality I suppose.

There is alot of work involved even on a naked bike such as the fazer. I would be very dubious of any paint job for £150-200, but if you arent fussy then I guess it is each to there own.
 
P.S The yellow speedblock panels will be finished by Monday if you are interested drop me a P.M with your email addy & I will send some pics off to you.
 
chitsu.

[bludclot]

P.S The yellow speedblock panels will be finished by Monday if you are interested drop me a P.M with your email addy & I will send some pics off to you.

any chance you can post pictures here for us all to enjoy?

[chitsu]

P.S The yellow speedblock panels will be finished by Monday if you are interested drop me a P.M with your email addy & I will send some pics off to you.

any chance you can post pictures here for us all to enjoy?

 
Will look like this except panels will be yellow & the speedblocks will just be black & white.





 
I have a set of  these (red/white & black) graphics in stock aswell as a spare set of panels that are allready in white base coat, these could be ready in about a week.
I am also getting some of the speedblock decals made up in white/blue & black (blue bit instead of the red) feel free to drop me a line if you want a set.
 
chitsu.

[bludclot]

thanks. the bike looks great. if i recall you (or the owner?) sold the fairings from that one separately...


i'm happy with my 'plain' metallic black.


i paint quite a few things for myself and other people (mainly alloy wheels and amplifier casings) but have never been able to obtain a clean line between two paint colours. i invested in some fine line tape from my usual paint factors but that didn't work when peeled off with second colour still wet or after having dried. any advice?

[ghostbiker]

The speed block design I want to see is a plain black bike with yellow and white blocks vinel. Oe some colour variant on the block vinel. It's 1 reason I'm thinking if going a simple black

[chitsu]

Here is a sneek peek of the kit, as they havent been lacquered yet.




 
I have some extra decal kits in stock which are in Black/White (just like the above) I also have some in Blue/Black & White (Blue blocks instead of the Red that are fitted to the bike in my previous post) . These kits have been laminated so they can be applied over your existing paint.
 
I will put some more pics up next week of them when they are finished.
 
chitsu.