Gold ACU sticker means nothing from a safety point of view, the ACU don't have a lab & don't test helmets.A few years ago a reporter from MCN posing as a new Chinese helmet manufacturer contacted the ACU & enquired about how to get a new lid ACU approved. The answer was to send them photos, proof that it had been granted BS/EU safety approval & a cheque for (IIRC) £3,500 & they'd then approve it & send him 10,000 ACU gold stickers!
Quote from: Pat on 26 March 2013, 01:03:24 pmGold ACU sticker means nothing from a safety point of view, the ACU don't have a lab & don't test helmets.A few years ago a reporter from MCN posing as a new Chinese helmet manufacturer contacted the ACU & enquired about how to get a new lid ACU approved. The answer was to send them photos, proof that it had been granted BS/EU safety approval & a cheque for (IIRC) £3,500 & they'd then approve it & send him 10,000 ACU gold stickers! Interesting, please explain why you need a gold ACU sticker to use your helmet on any race track in the UK if it has nothing to do with safety? Maybe the above was to highlight a problem with the ACU approval process which is now dealt with? The very fact that MCN (that fine reputable tome) did this must have been to reveal something misleading about the sticker which indicates that it should mean something. If you want to wear a polycarbonate helmet then that's your choice, personally I would put as much trust in one of those ridiculous cycle helmets that people are so fond of putting their kids in.
I don't want to think, I want to know - proof please that the Gold ACU sticker is meaningless My first ever lid was a Centurion open faced Pinto, it cost about £10 and was polycarbonate, it was shit and split down the middle on impact, polycarbonate lids may pass the ECE regs but they don't pass mine - and no, the technology behind polycarbonate has not moved on. I was 16, skint and ignorant, if I had asked somebody for advice I would not have bought it, the OP has sensibly asked for advice and been given the options and told the truth about polycarbonate lids so they can make an informed decision. Why fudge it?
My research is based on what I am told by the Bike Shop Owner selling me a helmet - he or she is an industry expert and explained to me that the Gold ACU sicker is an indication that the helmet is approved for racing and built to the highest standard. You are the person telling me and the OP that's not true so why should I do the research for you? And why state something then admit you can't justify it? Don't fudge it for him, he has had good advice that polycarbonate lids are not as good as fibreglass and been advised to talk to local Bike Shop Owner and buy the best he can afford.
Hi guys,I didn't want to create any tension between you/us.You are all the foccers and i might join you one day and I don't want to cause any argument. its not what i would want.Peace and Love Trotsky
Quote from: Streetbudgie on 28 March 2013, 01:57:06 pmMy research is based on what I am told by the Bike Shop Owner selling me a helmet - he or she is an industry expert and explained to me that the Gold ACU sicker is an indication that the helmet is approved for racing and built to the highest standard. You are the person telling me and the OP that's not true so why should I do the research for you? And why state something then admit you can't justify it? Don't fudge it for him, he has had good advice that polycarbonate lids are not as good as fibreglass and been advised to talk to local Bike Shop Owner and buy the best he can afford.The last time I checked you didn't need a degree in engineering or even be a subject matter expert to be a salesman/woman. A bike shop owner is not an industry expert, they are a person trying to sell a helmet. Have they had an accident in each helmet they sell ?, have they even tried every helmet they sell ? I think not. Don't confuse a shop owner with an industry expert.Since you're not doing any research and are basing your opinion on the equivalent of someone that is trying to sell and expensive safety item to you I think you need to reassess your decision making skills and become a bit more objective.Like I said before, I'm no expert, but I don't think you, or your salesman friend should be classified as such either. Let someone make up their own mind without spreading FUD.I'm not going to argue with you any more as you're obviously set in your ways. If you decide to find some objectivity and base your discussion on logic,reason and science then I'll have a reasoned debate with you.Peace out.
Quote from: simonm on 28 March 2013, 03:59:00 pmQuote from: Streetbudgie on 28 March 2013, 01:57:06 pmMy research is based on what I am told by the Bike Shop Owner selling me a helmet - he or she is an industry expert and explained to me that the Gold ACU sicker is an indication that the helmet is approved for racing and built to the highest standard. You are the person telling me and the OP that's not true so why should I do the research for you? And why state something then admit you can't justify it? Don't fudge it for him, he has had good advice that polycarbonate lids are not as good as fibreglass and been advised to talk to local Bike Shop Owner and buy the best he can afford.The last time I checked you didn't need a degree in engineering or even be a subject matter expert to be a salesman/woman. A bike shop owner is not an industry expert, they are a person trying to sell a helmet. Have they had an accident in each helmet they sell ?, have they even tried every helmet they sell ? I think not. Don't confuse a shop owner with an industry expert.Since you're not doing any research and are basing your opinion on the equivalent of someone that is trying to sell and expensive safety item to you I think you need to reassess your decision making skills and become a bit more objective.Like I said before, I'm no expert, but I don't think you, or your salesman friend should be classified as such either. Let someone make up their own mind without spreading FUD.I'm not going to argue with you any more as you're obviously set in your ways. If you decide to find some objectivity and base your discussion on logic,reason and science then I'll have a reasoned debate with you.Peace out. Oh I get it, you're a 'last word door slammer', plenty of them on here in the past. All I have read from you is what is no good according to your theory based on a newspaper article printed some years ago - how about offering the OP some actual advice based on your extensive helmet experience - do you wear a polycarbonate helmet or a fibre glass one?
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