Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: VNA - BMW Wank on 02 August 2013, 07:46:21 pm
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When I got the bike new in 2004, it came with the tax disc mounted to the chain guard.
The original tax disc holder fell apart of after a while. I got a replacement from a bike shop a few years back, but it's really shagged now.
I did try a stick on holder that I bought from another bike shop. You just peel the paper off and stick it and the tax disc to your screen. They said it would stay there for ever and a day. The following day it fell off. So back to the shagged out one.
Just bought a new one off the web, one of those cylinder ones where you roll up yer disc and stuff it in. But it's just going to get a kicking mounted on the chain guard plus the screw ain't long enougth anyway.
Any suggestions. Photos would be great.
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Looks like I'm gonna have to bodge it into the shagged holder for now;
(http://www.photoecosse.net/fazerforum/IMG_9611-Edit.jpg)
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doesnt the rolled up style bolt onto the side of the radiator?
im sure Ive saw someone on here with theirs fixed to the rad. looked ok too (cant remember who though).
perhaps a look through here will give you some ideas:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5311.50.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5311.50.html)
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Somebody said on a thread elsewhere that those "roll-up" ones would be illegal as your tax isn't clearly displayed - but loads of people use them, so not sure he was right?
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Mine is on the shelf in the garage,, i think i will put it on,,,,now perhaps,,forgot about it
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OK, like this;
(http://www.photoecosse.net/fazerforum/IMG_9619-Edit.jpg)
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Seems to fit there OK.
We'll see how long it lasts. Every tax disc I've had on a bike had just about dissolved after 12mnths.
A parking warden told me most wardens will only do you for an out of date disc. He claimed few will do em for no tax disc, as they are a bugger to find, so you never know if it's not got one or you just ain't spotted it. But of course PC plod will ask for it.
perhaps a look through here will give you some ideas:
[url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5311.50.html[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5311.50.html[/url])
Anyway as I consider myself to have a sharp eye, that's 9 pages of Fazer thous I've just reported to DVLA for nae tax. Bloody tax dodging bastards. Who do you lot think you are - Bernie Ecclestone?
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aye ^^^ like that.
still looks good :)
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Cheers!
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Not overly keen on the ones we do at Oxford Products - the O rings in the ends look way too puny to do much good in sealing out the wet.
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This was a cheapie off Amazon.
Not convinced it will last, but we'll see.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HOLDER-CARBON-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-SCOOTER/dp/B00AAZI80Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1375478859&sr=1-1&keywords=motorcycle+tax+disc+holders (http://www.amazon.co.uk/HOLDER-CARBON-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-SCOOTER/dp/B00AAZI80Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1375478859&sr=1-1&keywords=motorcycle+tax+disc+holders)
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Mine is under the seat been there since the bike was a year old sorry but never had a problem and what the point of sticking it somewhere that a toe rag can rip it off smashing the bike as well
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I get mine laminated then stick it on the inside of the screen with some strong double sided tape, I remove the screen and stick the disk so it's behind the clocks making it difficult for anyone to peel off. Totally waterproof, very visible and as secure as any other method.
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I have a Oberon tube type fitted in same place on rad. Never leaked in the 4 years its been on.
It's also led back lit but I recently unwired it.
As a parking warden ( well civil enforcement officer ) we report out of date tax to dvla but we run a check first to make sure it is out of date / sorn before It's reported.
Though we take tax disc details down when we issue they are not actually used for anything. And if a vehicle was missing a disc but came back on the check as taxed then all is fine and dandy.
I don't even bother running checks on bikes, very few of us do. To be honest unless your parked realy bloody stupidly most of us don't issue to them anyway :P
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fitted my oberon on the side of the givi rack.It has never let water in ever.The cylinder rotates so mr traffic warden can read all details. :)
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In a plastic bag under seat :rollin , as it stops fuckers nicking it lol :rollin the law about displaying is dated and the bizzies dont pull you for it on a bike as they are prone to being lifted :)
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Most bikes Ive had the disc holder was mounted to the rear mudguard-ideal for getting soaked. Present Fazer has disc holder attached to front brake hose guide bracket. Have never come across a waterproof holder yet-every tax disc becomes wet then dries out gradually losing legibility until its time to buy a new one-don't get me started on the cost of bike tax!!! :'(
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Mines in the inside pocket of my jacket... Mind you I rarely park my bike on the street.
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I'm the same, never found a waterproof one yet! Are the roll type holders waterproof? Cos I like them.:D
I always display it though, as you could easily come across a grumpy traffic cop that hasn't hit his monthly ticket count. He'll do you for not displaying it in a heartbeat. (not that the gutter rats have a heart in the first place) ::)
I've heard that some city guys put a photocopy on the bike and carry the original under the seat. Bloody good idea that one!
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Mines on my top front caliper mount, I always put a thin smear of vaseline round the edge when I put a new tax disc in, never had a problem with water getting in.
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Most bikes Ive had the disc holder was mounted to the rear mudguard-ideal for getting soaked. Present Fazer has disc holder attached to front brake hose guide bracket. Have never come across a waterproof holder yet-every tax disc becomes wet then dries out gradually losing legibility until its time to buy a new one-don't get me started on the cost of bike tax!!! :'(
Why, what's wrong with the cost of bike tax? :pokefun :evil
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Are you supposed to tax these bikes????? Bugger! :rollin
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Well my tax disc got inspected today. Plod wasn't that keen on the holder. Can you pop it out. Sure I replied if you have an allen key. I pointed out that the date, the bar code and the bike details were all on display and he seemed happy.
Had popped up to Falkirk to get my valve clearances checked. 29,000 miles and all in tolerance.
Killed 4 hours in Falkirk, then picked up the bike and decided to head to Callander for a fish supper (Mhor Fish do a top notch fish supper).
So missed a turn somewhere and ended up heading through, instead of past, Stirling. Slipped past a police van with a bit of late braking at the traffic lights, made sure it was a neat move, plenty of room and that he wouldn't have to brake hard or anything. You know as you do, and I don't like sitting behind vans, any van.
So a few hundred yards up the road, I fluff the roundabout, I'm a bit lost and make a late lunge for an exit after a good look over my shoulder at following plod. So he pulled me. Fair enougth I thought. I apologised profusely for the late move on the roundabout, though pointing out that I did have a good look before moving over, but really I should have gone round again. Sorry officer .
But he wasn't bothered about that, he wasn't happy that I undertook him. What? That's not undertaking officer! So it all got a bit confusing. Anyway I quickly decided to see things his way, he checked all my details over the radio (no more tickets to hand your docs in?) and I was on my way.
But I figured he wouldn't have been happy if my disc wasn't on display, and that would have actually given him something to give me a ticket for.
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And the police? Well they looked to me as they they should have still been at school!
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You never know if you're going to meet a copper who's going to enforce to the letter of the law. DVLA only say that you should display your tax disc on the kerb side (ie l/h side) of the motorcycle. I sympathise with those who say, yeah but it'll get nicked. Unfortunately, Mr. Plod won't necessarily sympathise.
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But where does it say you do not have to display your tax?
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Maximum fine for `FAILING TO DISPLAY` a current tax disc is £200!!
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seriously now, all this worrying about a tax disc being stolen doesn't wash. i bet there's only a tiny number that are actually stolen from motorcycles and should it happen and the bike owner takes the proper steps of reporting and re-applying then there's no monetry cost involved.
there's so many more parts on a motorcycle that have a real market value that are easily stolen, tasty end cans for example. and yet there's no threads on forums saying that owners take their end can with them every time they leave the bike near an inner city shopping centre....
and if the bike is used all year round then wrap the disc in a bit of cling film before placing in the holder and attaching to the bike, simple.
for what it's worth mine is attached to one of the radiator trim bolts on the near side of the bike, all proper like.
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The best place to fit tax disc holder on the fazer thou I find is :rolleyes
On the left hand side inside the cockpit , there are two bolts that hold the subframe for the fairing to the frame in front of headstock. If you remove the top bolt(Allen headed) a flat normal tax disc holder will nestle in there.
Its visible without looking crap on the bike and out the weather, harder to nick. I use an Ali one that has to be bolted together when you change your tax disc. :)
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Mine's mounted on the swingarm / chainguard (one of those screw together with Allen screw types and never had water in yet.
Bludclot: " i bet there's only a tiny number that are actually stolen from motorcycles and should it happen and the bike owner takes the proper steps of reporting and re-applying then there's no monetry cost involved." - I had a tax disc stolen some years ago from a cheap runaround 'ped during my L-plate days (annual tax £15), replacement disc £7 (about 6 months worth of tax, my tax at that point had between 2 and 3 months left on it).
Tax disc thieves aren't your "typical" thieves looking to cash in (hence why they don't nick tasty Yoshi cans), they'll stick it on an untaxed vehicle (so that from a distance, the untaxed vehicle "looks" like it's taxed because it has a disc (and such vehicles are likely uninsured or without MoT).
I just paid my tax for another 12 months, it took DVLA about 5 seconds to verify the bike's insurance / MoT details (those who don't pay tax thus won't know how quickly these details are checked).
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Why nick a £15 tax disc to make it look like you have tax? You can print one off the internet for nothing with no risk of getting done for theft if you get caught nicking it!!!
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Why nick a £15 tax disc to make it look like you have tax? You can print one off the internet for nothing with no risk of getting done for theft if you get caught nicking it!!!
A tax disk is easier to nick than a computer and printer ;)
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Why nick a £15 tax disc to make it look like you have tax? You can print one off the internet for nothing with no risk of getting done for theft if you get caught nicking it!!!
If its nickable and sellable for a few quid, they'll nick it!
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Mine
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And we'll piss off to the ace
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Got mine on a bracket I made for exhaust when I got rid of footrests