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Title: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 December 2018, 01:03:34 pm
Finally Triumph launch a bike in their retro series that I might actually like to own and ride.1200cc, 96hp and 80lbs ft, should be pretty punchy.17 inch wheels, a low seat hight and just under 200kg, so should be easy chuck aroond. 
No doubt will sound great on open pipes.
Dunno what the gaitors are aboot though.
(https://2yrh403fk8vd1hz9ro2n46dd-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2019-Triumph-Speed-Twin-First-Look-retro-sport-motorcycle-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 December 2018, 01:04:01 pm
(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/PageFiles/666047/1-speed-twin.jpg)
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 December 2018, 01:04:32 pm
https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/classic/bonneville-speed-twin (https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/classic/bonneville-speed-twin)

Whatdayathink?
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: coffee on 16 December 2018, 05:13:54 pm
gorgeous,absolutely gorgeous,with a little bit of customising,perfect, :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 December 2018, 06:46:59 pm
I like the silver and black one.  Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: agricola on 16 December 2018, 07:25:35 pm
Looks lovely. If only they made a 600cc model for us lightweights. I like the gaitors. Had em on my old yx600 radian, kept the forks spotless, used it as my winter hack for 5 years
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 16 December 2018, 07:52:29 pm
I tried the Scrambler 1200 at the NEC. I've ridden the Scrambler 900 before. The 1200 is physically quite a bit bigger, and I suspect the Speed Twin is the same. The new Norton Atlas 650 is very nice and much smaller. Looks good but of course the engine doesn't look retro.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 December 2018, 08:07:34 pm
Was the scrambler with the old air cooled motor?As I'm under the impression that the current 900 is just the sleeved down 1200.



 I didn’t like the Bonneville’s, they look as if they are trying too hard to be something they clearly ain’t – if you know what I mean.  Too tarty as well.
 
The new Thruxtons are nice, but as soon as I saw em I thought – would be brill if they had sit up and beg bars.
So yeah I like this speed twin.  Should be decently quick, modern handling with retro looks but without trying to pretend to be a vintage bike.
 
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 16 December 2018, 08:44:22 pm
No it was the first of the 900cc liquid cooled Street Scamblers in 2015. Quite a bit more power than the 865cc air cooled.
Thing about the Bonneville is that there are so many accessories, you can turn it into anything you want. However like the Mini, they are getting bigger and bigger.
The new Royal Enfield twins look good, and of course are much cheaper!
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: ogri48 on 16 December 2018, 09:46:37 pm
stunning bike mate
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: Oldgit on 18 December 2018, 11:29:30 am
96 horses--you'd be better buying a Burgman  :rollin
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: YamFazFan on 18 December 2018, 12:37:07 pm

96 horses--you'd be better buying a Burgman  :rollin


The new Honda CRF450L dual-sport trail bike puts out about 25bhp. 25hp from a sporting 450 that costs nearly 10k! :eek

The US version gets over 40hp. The bike that they're based on is somewhere around 50hp.


I've heard that it's due to the Euro emissions and noise regulations.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 18 December 2018, 02:56:25 pm
Or you can get 25 bhp from a Royal Enfield 410cc Himilyan for £4k
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: coffee on 18 December 2018, 03:52:25 pm
Or you can get 25 bhp from a Royal Enfield 410cc Himilyan for £4k




A cracking bike for the money,and you'd be able to do most jobs on it yourself. :thumbup
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 18 December 2018, 06:51:51 pm
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96 horses--you'd be better buying a Burgman  ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rollin.gif[/url])

It's not a sportsbike or a hyper naked.  It's a cool retro bike.
Not riden one, but I'd be very surprised if didn't feel more than quick enougth.  Don't for get the 80lbs-ft torque.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: Oldgit on 19 December 2018, 12:32:26 pm
Don't buy a retro looking bike--buy a proper old one---that's the ticket.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: Dudeofrude on 19 December 2018, 05:12:21 pm
Don't buy a retro looking bike--buy a proper old one---that's the ticket.

Yeah if you want one that will properly breakdown and that you'll never get parts for ;-)
I do love the styling of these but I'm still too young and power hungry to plod around on a "Torquey" bike.
Maybe when my back goes and I grow up I'll look into it haha
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 19 December 2018, 06:45:47 pm
I used to have a 'proper old one' a BSA A65. It spent most of its time in bits. If I went out on it for more than 10 miles then I used to take most of my tools with me :)

Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: coffee on 19 December 2018, 08:49:51 pm
I used to have a 'proper old one' a BSA A65. It spent most of its time in bits. If I went out on it for more than 10 miles then I used to take most of my tools with me :)



and they're really good if you need to oil your drive or garage floor. :lol
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: coffee on 19 December 2018, 09:05:46 pm
Don't buy a retro looking bike--buy a proper old one---that's the ticket.





I really think when we rode those bikes we never realised just how crap they were,it's only now when you see just how reliable bikes are that you see.I've lost count how many times I had to leave those bikes wherever they'd broke down,maybe it was just my inability to maintain them properly  :lol It's weird how it didn't enter your head to stop riding and breaking down it was just a way of life but it used to piss you off. :wall
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: Oldgit on 20 December 2018, 04:26:59 pm
Not forgetting riding through all bloody weather in the winter as well, cos it was your only form of transport, snow ice, slush,  rain, with crap tyres--Ahhhh Halcyon Days.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 20 December 2018, 08:33:00 pm
And with crap kit. I had a sheepskin flying jacket which was fine until it rained, when I smelled like a farmyard.
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: ogri48 on 20 December 2018, 09:59:43 pm
I used to wear two pairs of jeans and manky motocross boots with them big white socks that folded over the top, then wonder why I was cold and wet :rolleyes
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: mtread on 21 December 2018, 05:11:35 pm
The new Scrambler 1200 prices have just been announced. From..... £11,500 :eek
Don't expect the Speed Twin to be much cheaper  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: tommyardin on 21 December 2018, 06:37:33 pm
I used to have a 'proper old one' a BSA A65. It spent most of its time in bits. If I went out on it for more than 10 miles then I used to take most of my tools with me :)




LOL Been there.
I had a Limited Edition1963 650cc BSA Rocket Gold Star A10, Pre unit construction parallel twin with a Quaif TT Type 2 close ration gear box. Less than 1600 made.  Loved it but spent more time working on it than I ever did riding it. Found this picture of one on the net, this is not mine but the same colour scheme and spec. Worth an absolute fortune now, sold it to a garage in Bury Gate Sussex around 1972, they gave me £85 for it on a trade in, and to be honest it was a fair price at the time. I purchased a Reliant Regal Van from them, Primrose yellow exactly the same model as Del Boys.   
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: coffee on 22 December 2018, 05:55:34 pm
I used to have a 'proper old one' a BSA A65. It spent most of its time in bits. If I went out on it for more than 10 miles then I used to take most of my tools with me :)




How gorgeous is that,I had a gold star 520 JYB a 500dbd34 wish I had it now,remember the gen goldie clip ons with the brazed on lugs?and that silencer that whistled,can't be many of them about now. That 190mm front brake looks fantastic don't it? :b




LOL Been there.
I had a Limited Edition1963 650cc BSA Rocket Gold Star A10, Pre unit construction parallel twin with a Quaif TT Type 2 close ration gear box. Less than 1600 made.  Loved it but spent more time working on it than I ever did riding it. Found this picture of one on the net, this is not mine but the same colour scheme and spec. Worth an absolute fortune now, sold it to a garage in Bury Gate Sussex around 1972, they gave me £85 for it on a trade in, and to be honest it was a fair price at the time. I purchased a Reliant Regal Van from them, Primrose yellow exactly the same model as Del Boys.   
Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: Oldgit on 23 December 2018, 11:58:25 am

Now that is a lovely looking bike. anyone would be proud to ride that.

Title: Re: Triumph Speed Twin
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 23 December 2018, 12:31:26 pm
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The new Scrambler 1200 prices have just been announced. From..... £11,500 :eek
Don't expect the Speed Twin to be much cheaper  :rolleyes

Obviously BREXIT and the weak pound is having an effect on bike prices.  Bikes seem to be on average about 15% dealer than two years ago. :eek


Things is this doesn’t seem to be affecting sales as yet.  PCP fever still rules.  People just look at the monthly cost. 



The thing I have noticed though is second -hand pricing.   Well yup it gets PCPed again – folks just look at the monthly cost. :eek


I am, as usual, contemplating another bike come the spring – maybe this year I’ll actually do it.  But prices ain’t helping.  With an average 15% rise in new I’m much keener on used stock.


Still fancy an MT10.  Here’s one in the right colour - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-MT-10/292881563354?hash=item443119feda:g:kqIAAOSwdZBcG4Mk:rk:2:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-MT-10/292881563354?hash=item443119feda:g:kqIAAOSwdZBcG4Mk:rk:2:pf:0)

 
914 miles and unmolested.  Nice.


But 9995 quid?  1.5k off the list price.  Really!  And you know what, when I ask for a decent cash discount, I get a feeling they’ll shrug their shoulders and say they’ll have it sold at 9995 on PCP in a matter of weeks.  Guess I’ll not know until I ask.  But used prices seem as daft as the new prices right now.