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General => General => Topic started by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 April 2014, 02:30:46 pm
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Just received a little souvenir from my last Wales trip.
91mph in a 60mph limit. I had to look the location up on the map, as I'd never heard of the place, but yep, they've got me. I didn't see any cameras or likely looking, strategically placed vans at any time on that day, and can't picture the place where this happened. But I definitely did that route.
Had a 6 month ban in 2008, 3pts (sp30) in April 2010, so not sure how it stacks up these days. For declaring to insurance, what is it, anything in last 5 years?
Insurance up for renewal next month, just sent license off to change address, bike needs a service, tyres, and new pads all round before Euro trip in July, plus MOT and tax, still need decent boots and a few other bits before going, and in middle of filling out passport application. All comes at feckin once doesn't it?! :\
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31mph ott so a ban is possible :eek
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Sorry to hear that Nick
That's why it pays to generally stick below a tonne eh...no instant bans.still shit...but no ammount of insurance money would get you on the road with a ban...at least you can still ride this summer....well funds permitting of course.
Where abouts was it then.
Actually it wasn't the same run i was on was it :eek
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31mph ott so a ban is possible :eek
Ah shit. Oh well, what will be, will be.
Sorry to hear that Nick
That's why it pays to generally stick below a tonne eh...no instant bans.still shit...but no ammount of insurance money would get you on the road with a ban...at least you can still ride this summer....well funds permitting of course.
Where abouts was it then.
Actually it wasn't the same run i was on was it :eek
I was generally pretty careful anywhere there were houses or junctions or owt, and especially in 30 and 40 limits, so looks like that bit paid off; so yeah, a bit unlucky. I'm also a bit like you Noggy, don't cane it on the straights, so it must have been on a twisty bit somewhere; somewhere where my concentration was more on the road, rather than the surroundings I guess.
Notice says A4067 at Crai village. That's crossing back north over the Brecons.
No, not our last run, you're safe!
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Just looked it up on gogle earth
Near sennybridge
A nice big straight there but like you say you were taking it easy
Sounds like sneaky tactics, maybe dressed as sheep or somethin...doesnt bode well for this year.
Surely if the subtract 10% then you are not worthy of a ban.....& would it not state that....or does it not state the punishment yet?
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it must have been on a twisty bit somewhere; somewhere where my concentration was more on the road, rather than the surroundings I guess.
I'd hope so what with travelling at 91mph :P
Bad luck though, hopefully you won't get a ban... still have no idea how I got away with my most recent close call
Managed to not notice a set of lights turning red and sort of ended up locking the rear and ending up in the middle of the yellow cross-hatched area which is camera monitored... I just sort of walked the bike backwards and pretended that no one saw me... despite the many many many cars around :|
4 weeks later and not a peep :)
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Just looked it up on gogle earth
Near sennybridge
A nice big straight there but like you say you were taking it easy
Sounds like sneaky tactics, maybe dressed as sheep or somethin...doesnt bode well for this year.
Surely if the subtract 10% then you are not worthy of a ban.....& would it not state that....or does it not state the punishment yet?
....someone mention..SHEEP!! :b ewe sure farmer wasnt chasing you nick!!!!!!!!!
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Maybe you should be brushing up on your observational skills? ;)
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There for the grace of God go I
Good luck mate
Mickey
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Maybe you should be brushing up on your observational skills? ;)
You could be right there locksmith - probably just having too much fun. The fine will be my fun tax :rolleyes
If it's a ban, I guess it'll give me time to save for a few things - no point getting down about it, and you never know, it might not come to that.
A big, long straight eh Noggy? Fecked if I remember it, but 91 doesn't sound excessive for a big, long straight does it? Considering the speed I could've been doing :lol
I think there but for the grace go most of us at one time or another Mickey. I'm not the sort to make excuses, my lack of observation as locksmith says, and, well, obviously excessive speed, although I'm normally quite good at judging where it's "safe" to get a good clip on. It seems that Heddlu Dyfed-Powys think it's not so safe there, so the price must be paid.
Don't know about sheep Clive, I'm feeling a bit like a sacrificial lamb at the moment :lol
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Totting up only applies for 3 years so your April 2010 has expired (although you have to wait 4 years before they will issue a licence that doesn't show it). What is it that you have been sent? Is it a Sect 172 Notice of Intended Prosecution? When did you transgress as the NIP has to be served within 14 days, anything over that and it is invalid.
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Just before the village of cray...passed cray resorvoir....theres a long swooping right around a hill & then there's a straight all the way to the village........but before the village on the right hand side behind the trees theres a really long lay-by...pretty concealed by shrubbery......i bet the crafty buggers were stashed in there.
Hmm actually ...shoulda asked what way you were going before i deduced anything. :pokefun
It would have to be a straight ish for the doppler to be effective.
Pity you didnt have the video camera on you coulda looked back on it.
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You have to declare any points obtained within the last 5 years for insurance purposes , its not worth lying to the insurance company , if you have to claim they will know .
If you obtain 12 points in the last 3 years , they can ban you , in that case its worth going to court to appeal and claim extreme hardship if you lose your license , once the 3 years is up , your slate is clean as far as keeping your license is concerned .
You can ask for the photograph ,if you wish to confirm that its definitely you , it is possible that its somebody with a cloned plate .
Hopefully you will keep your license , and it will be 3 points and a fine .
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone .
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No stone casting from me then...Good Luck Nick
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Totting up only applies for 3 years so your April 2010 has expired (although you have to wait 4 years before they will issue a licence that doesn't show it). What is it that you have been sent? Is it a Sect 172 Notice of Intended Prosecution? When did you transgress as the NIP has to be served within 14 days, anything over that and it is invalid.
Yeah, notice of intended, offence date 30/3/14, notice date 8/4/14. :( All fits with when I was there so no false/stolen plate excuses are gonna work. 28 days to reply.
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Ask the judge to postpone sentence untill August
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So you fill in the NIP (which if you look carefully is a Sect 9 statement of fact so by filling it in you are admitting the offence in a form that can be presented in court) and send it off. Then you will get either a Conditional Offer which is your chance to accept 3 points and a fine (used to be £60 but I think it's now £100) or a summons to appear before the Magistrates. If under a ton on a 70 limit dual carriageway you will almost always get the Conditional Offer but I'm not sure of the threshold on a 60. If they request the pleasure of your company in some far flung Welsh court, then it's likely to be 6 points and a bigger fine. They also have the option of asking you if you would prefer to get no points and attend a speed awareness course which you have to pay for. Sit through a days worth of lectures from holier than thou's who think your brain will explode if you travel faster than 60 mph and go on your way with a clean licence.
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I don't think you will get any more than 6 points and £100 fine , it will be classed as an SP50 , which I got done for on M4 about a month after I got bike , although they only gave me 3 points , when I checked with Bennets it made very little difference to my insurance , but i'm an old foccer .
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On your best behaviour from now on then Nick is it?
May i suggest a restrictor in the form of some Blue paint :b
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On your best behaviour from now on then Nick is it?
May i suggest a restrictor in the form of some Blue paint :b
Bl...BLU...................BLUE PAINT?!!!!!! :eek
Foc me, I'll take a 6 month ban and a £1000 fine pleeeeaaase! In fact, I'd prefer it if they brought back hanging!
Don't be daft Noggy, we're not living under a dictatorship :rolleyes :lol
Yeah rustyrider, if I get the option of the speed awareness course, I'll take it. If it's 3 or even 6 points and a £100 fine, it's not great but not the end of the world though. I just hope it doesn't foc up the tour in July, but I reckon I'll know well before then. As well as obviously a ban, a big hike in insurance could possibly hurt the tour plans, as I can only get so much money together before then.
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I'll be honest with you Nick, it's highly unlikely you'll get offered the SAC at that speed. If you do get the course, happy days!
Your more than likely looking at the 3 pointer methinks, or a day in court.
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On your best behaviour from now on then Nick is it?
May i suggest a restrictor in the form of some Blue paint :b
Bl...BLU...................BLUE PAINT?!!!!!! :eek
Foc me, I'll take a 6 month ban and a £1000 fine pleeeeaaase! In fact, I'd prefer it if they brought back hanging!
Don't be daft Noggy, we're not living under a dictatorship :rolleyes :lol
Yeah rustyrider, if I get the option of the speed awareness course, I'll take it. If it's 3 or even 6 points and a £100 fine, it's not great but not the end of the world though. I just hope it doesn't foc up the tour in July, but I reckon I'll know well before then. As well as obviously a ban, a big hike in insurance could possibly hurt the tour plans, as I can only get so much money together before then.
It's ok Nick I won't let you starve.....I'll buy a book for Alpine forager ;)
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+30 over the limit and your looking at a ban ,if by some miracle they offer a conditional £100 +3 points take it
More likely a summons ,don't bother replying by post as they will only adjourn and request you attend at a later date anyway
turn up to court suited and booted and put a tremble in your voice and you should get away with around £250 to £300 and 6 points.
I know as I got done for 77 in a 40 in Aug overtaking a panel truck straight into a parked up camera van :eek [size=78%] [/size]
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+30 over the limit and your looking at a ban ,if by some miracle they offer a conditional £100 +3 points take it
More likely a summons ,don't bother replying by post as they will only adjourn and request you attend at a later date anyway
turn up to court suited and booted and put a tremble in your voice and you should get away with around £250 to £300 and 6 points.
I know as I got done for 77 in a 40 in Aug overtaking a panel truck straight into a parked up camera van :eek [size=78%] [/size]
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Can they do you if it's only a short distance like overtaking then?
Actually silly question since the fixed cams work over a few yards...Duh
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No stone casting from me either... though my 76 in a 50 three months back was fairly pedestrian by comparison.
For a 60 zone the summons threshold is 86mph according to the ACPO recommendations on the CPS website. :(
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Tough luck Nick, i suppose we all get over excited now and then.
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Nick, follow this thread and you can veiw your speeding photo
http://www.i-database.co.uk/ (http://www.i-database.co.uk/)
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30mph over is ban territory whatever the road. Some lucky foccers (including one on here) have managed to get 6 points and a fine instead of a ban at 32mph over but at the end of the day its down to the magistrate on the day. In Wales they hate the English and they hate bikes so chances are it will be a ban but you may be able to make is a very short ban (28 days??) if you plead poverty and the impact it will have on others. Just because you will need to do a 6 hours commute each way to work including a 2 hour walk to the nearest bus stop isn't enough. It needs to be others impacted by your ban. Like your elderly great great grandmother mother who needs to be taken to aqua aerobics by you etc.
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cant you tel them that christo nicked your bike nick?...and it couldnt have been you has you was turkey hurding with me on that day? ;) ....ile back you up matey!! :D ....
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When is your insurance due? If it's after the tour you shouldn't need to pay extra for insurance. Whatever happens you only get the increase in your insurance when you renew, until that point your current insurance is valid, I think.
That's what happened with my NCD after writing off the old bike. My loss of 2 years only kicks in when I renew, I transfered my current insurance to the new bike with the insurance as it was.
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What about the 10% for speedos and stuff though?
Surely you could argue that you were possibly only doing 81.9mph????....which is obviously still speeding but not so severe.
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Them there Welsh and Scottish if they want devolvement or what ever what about, ok your speeding was in Wales and so you are getting a driving ban IN WALES fair?.
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got stopped last Sunday, 78 in a 60 by an unmarked beemer the ticket says 3 points and £100, 20 days to pay up.
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What about the 10% for speedos and stuff though?
Surely you could argue that you were possibly only doing 81.9mph????....which is obviously still speeding but not so severe.
That one doesn't really wash noggy, the measuring devices are calibrated frequently, and if they're out of true, they don't get used.
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Appreciate that Stevie, the Radar doesnt really lie
But could they give Nick the benefit of the doubt that his speedo may have been reading up to 10% less than what his actual speed was though?
Or is it worse to imply then that you knew you were speeding, even if your speedo said less.
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I think admitting to doing 82 in a 60 is probably worse than than being ignorant of doing 91...
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I think admitting to doing 82 in a 60 is probably worse than than being ignorant of doing 91...
Id agree, but then you never know.....as it is careless to not know your speed
Theres no easy way out i suppose
& me personally i'd accept it & hope for the best.....could go either way.
My mate up north on the other hand......well getting cought doing 125 in a 60 & trying to escape the police M5........well he's focced!!! :groan
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I don't think there's any wriggle room here. Falsely claiming hardship - well wouldn't they check? Surely if they didn't, everyone would be doing it. My infirm father does rely on me for certain running around, so perhaps I'll mention that, but even then...
I've decided to send off the notice without delay, as the worst thing is having it hanging over my head not knowing. Once I know what I'm getting for it, then I can deal with it.
I don't suppose you get the option of a court more local to home? Not hopeful about that even.
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But could they give Nick the benefit of the doubt that his speedo may have been reading up to 10% less than what his actual speed was though?
It doesn't work like that. To meet type approval a speedo may over read by up to 10% but cannot under read by any amount. So what your speedo shows will always be up to 10% faster than you are really travelling at, never less. So to be doing an actual 91 mph, I suspect the speedo would have been reading nearer the ton.
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up to 10% less than what his actual speed was though?
Wrong way Noggy. If your speedo is under reading, it is illegal. It can allow you to think you are going faster than you are but not slower.
If Nicks speedo was out by 10%, it would have been reading 100mph at a true 91mph. Makes it worse, not better.
APCO used to allow speed limit + 10% + 2mp before they did anyone. Wales ignore that but if they didn't, anyone doing less than 68mph in a 60mph limit would not be done. 91mph is still above that.
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I don't suppose you get the option of a court more local to home? Not hopeful about that even.
Nope, case must be heard in the court for the area where the offence took place.
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So with speedo not to read under, why is it not an MOT test ever - would they go out after time
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Oh well Nick chin up eh...in the lap of the gods now.
Has reinforced my need to stay around 80 ish & why im trying to find a new bike that is less top end heavy......plus no fairing so that doing 90 is pretty uncomfortable anyway.
But it is all too easy during overtakes especially to get to these speeds...even if only briefly.
Fingers, toes & yamaha tuning forks crossed for you though.
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Noggy, that's why my friend does so many green laning now. He can have fun on his bike and not worry about getting caught. So easy to get caught on the road nowadays :-( He's a lucky so and so, has 2 road bikes and 3 off road..blooming greedy if you ask me! LOL
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Unlucky Nick, I hope it doesn't happen but if it does do a little dance and keep smiling. It wouldn't be forever, and as for the insurance... well there's a guy round my way who has ridden a c90 all over the world and had amazing adventures doing it, just a matter of a positive attitude and making the best of what you got.
Andy
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I got nicked at roadside, being caught out via speed gun, 74mph on a 40mph road, and got 3 points and £60 fine.
Then got caught again IN THE SAME SPOT 4 years later, 3 points and £60 fine as well. :o
It's the only road i refuse to go over 38mph on now. :lol
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That was lucky darrsi, how long ago was that? I've got away with all kinds of nonsense in the past, but they're a lot tighter with it all these days.
I went past a cop car on the M11 at 130mph on my turbo many years ago, then tried to do a runner - cop caught up with me on a slip road, just got a ticking off! :eek
Of course I'm not so irresponsible these days, license wouldn't survive 5 minutes if you tried that kind of thing now. If it's a ban this time, ok, I can live with that, it won't be forever - just very unfortunate timing for me right now.
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the welsh hate the English and bikes.???????? lol ,get a grip man I got better things to do with my time than hate the English, I ride a bike and the missus is English, so I must be a sick bastard, :lol saying that I belive there is an old welsh law that permits the hanging of speeding yellow fazers. :eek
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Ha, I'm safe then - it's yellow, black and white :lol
Anyway, I doubt they've a gallows big enough to get the bike on ;)
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That was lucky darrsi, how long ago was that? I've got away with all kinds of nonsense in the past, but they're a lot tighter with it all these days.
I went past a cop car on the M11 at 130mph on my turbo many years ago, then tried to do a runner - cop caught up with me on a slip road, just got a ticking off! :eek
Of course I'm not so irresponsible these days, license wouldn't survive 5 minutes if you tried that kind of thing now. If it's a ban this time, ok, I can live with that, it won't be forever - just very unfortunate timing for me right now.
Blimey, just checked and the 2nd one was August 2010, doesn't time fly!!
50mph in a 40mph that time.
I won't forget that one as firstly the policewoman was stunning who questioned me, even if she was a bit overzealous in her ways but i also had a yellow bike jacket on at the time and as i stood by their car waiting for them to write me a ticket some fella crossed the road and asked me what i would do about some bloke taking photo's of his house? :photo :lol
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Unlucky mate. Who rides a bike and can honestly say they have never went over the limit...? Its easy done.
I was pulled doing 77 in a 40. In my defense it was a temporary 40 section on the M8 Motorway at Glasgow airport, and it was not very well signposted. I was in the foccin middle lane too, being overtaken by cars. The cops seen the CBR and just gunned me down :rolleyes .
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Unlucky mate. And like you say, these things always happen at the worst time, though I guess there's never a good time. Think you will be very unlucky to get a ban, there was a time years back Wales was draconian and treating speeding bikers like serial killers, but I think there's a different chief now. Finger crossed anyhoo bud, and all the best :)
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Don't worry Nick,,i got it all sorted,,yeh,,
You can go in the Peugeot with Cristo :)
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It'd seriously be a rough call if you do get a ban Nick (6 plus a fine i reckon) but their is a plus side....................I get a chance to snap up a yellow thou :lol .
I mean the depreciation on it if you're banned doesn't bear thinking about. :rolleyes
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It'd seriously be a rough call if you do get a ban Nick (6 plus a fine i reckon) but their is a plus side....................I get a chance to snap up a yellow thou :lol .
I mean the depreciation on it if you're banned doesn't bear thinking about. :rolleyes
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:thumbup Being a marked vehicle n all
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Ah, see, this is where I'm thinking positive - a ban means time to save for R1 forks and a decent rear shock - there will be no sale of a yellow Fazer - it's too fast for mere mortals anyway :D
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Ah, see, this is where I'm thinking positive - a ban means time to save for R1 forks and a decent rear shock - there will be no sale of a yellow Fazer - it's too fast for mere mortals anyway :D
I'm not mortal, I'll give you £50 for it! :lol
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it's too fast for mere mortals anyway :D
and the police it would seem :o
Chris
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Interesting link for those in my position:
http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/SpeedVSFines/SpeedVSFines.htm (http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/SpeedVSFines/SpeedVSFines.htm)
On balance, it looks like my license will be safe, if a little more decorative, going by this and what most people have said here and elsewhere.
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a mate got done 104 in a 60 because his job meant he had to drive they gave him a 2 week ban, which he took as a holiday from his job, no points either, when he told his insurance co. they said there wasn't a box for a 2 week ban, so didnt make any differance?
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Just a reminder: 91in a 60mph limit, March, Crai village, Brecon.
Result is in:
6 points.
Fine: £200
Victim surcharge (eh?): £20
Costs: £85
Total: £305
I gave no mitigating circumstances. This was a guilty plea by post.
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damn, i was hoping to use
(http://chickencrap.com/media_images/6841.jpg)
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Do u consider that a result?
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Do u consider that a result?
Any outcome would have been "a result". ;)
Considering I was in instaban territory, I'd say a good result, having been nicked. Wouldn't you?
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Don't forget to add on to those costs the increased insurance premium for the next 5 years
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Don't forget to add on the those costs the increased insurance premium for the next 5 years
If I recall rightly, SP30 doesn't make much difference. If it had been a ban, I would have received a date for a further hearing for sentencing, which I would have had to attend in Llanelli: return train journey £112, possible B&B £65, plus loss of wages. If you think I'm going to cry over spilt milk, sorry, not in my nature :D
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Still on the road, thats good :thumbup......paint your bike blue, it wont happen again :lol
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Nice one Nick. That is a result. I got more than that for doing 40 mph through the Blackwall tunnel. :thumbup
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Well done Nick :woot
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Don't forget to add on the those costs the increased insurance premium for the next 5 years
If I recall rightly, SP30 doesn't make much difference. If it had been a ban, I would have received a date for a further hearing for sentencing, which I would have had to attend in Llanelli: return train journey £112, possible B&B £65, plus loss of wages. If you think I'm going to cry over spilt milk, sorry, not in my nature :D
Quote to renew for my car came today ( Golf GTTDi )...£225 fully comp. so I rang them (Hastings) to inform them I had an SP30 from Feb, they told me it would alter the premium, now £287, I had previously checked on the comparison sites and could get insured, SP30 etc. for £220 so I told the guy at Hastings I would not be requiring their services when he says " hang on, we might be able to do something .....how about £223 ?" two pounds cheaper than before, so my SP30 saved me two quid.
These firms are just having a laugh at our expense.
Greg
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That seems good Nick,,,hope you learn your lesson now my lad :lol :lol :lol :lol
Pay up and relax,,maybe the fat old bitch of a magistrate was off sick :lol
or the old bitch had sex the night before,,,poor old hubby
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These firms are just having a laugh at our expense.
Greg
You're not wrong. All you've got to do is hit one of the go.compare type sites; you'll always get cheaper, and then if you phone round even after those quotes, you get cheaper still. Only a mug takes what he's offered first time by his current insurer. There are no advantages that I can see from remaining with one insurer these days. They obviously don't give a toss about customer loyalty.
I had an experience on Sunday (you know, Bill) that I found far more sobering as to the effects, or potential effects of speeding. Still thinking about it now. Not what did happen, but what could have happened, and most probably will, sooner or later, to some guys Bill and I rode with. Nice bunch of fellas to talk to, but total nutcases on bikes :eek
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Sorry you got caught, i was recently on the a55 in north wales. I needed to do the research on what would happen 71 in a 50. North Wales follow the agreed guidlines which is 10% + 9mph in which ever max speed zone your in. So sadly in a 60 you would need to be doing below 75mph to qualify for the speed awareness course.
Although the Police attempt to resolve most offences by way of a Fixed Penalty Notice, at excessive speeds, a Court appearance is inevitable. For speeds in excess of 100 mph (or more than 30 miles above the relevant limit) the punishment starts at disqualification as opposed to penalty points. However, the decision is at the discretion of the Court and in certain circumstances, a disqualification can be avoided.
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Ouch still got your license though nick so it could be worse. I reckon your insurance would go up a lot more if you got a ban.
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It'd seriously be a rough call if you do get a ban Nick (6 plus a fine i reckon) but their is a plus side....................I get a chance to snap up a yellow thou :lol .
I mean the depreciation on it if you're banned doesn't bear thinking about. :rolleyes
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Going to see if I can get you a re-trial Nick. You deserve a ban and I need your bike :lol
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I need your bike :lol
Over. My. Dead. Body.
:lol
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I'm guessing that means my offer of £50 for your bike is no good?
I'll sweeten the deal: I'll chuck in some packs of noodles (I'm back at Uni, that's all I'm eating!) :lol :lol
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I'm guessing that means my offer of £50 for your bike is no good?
I'll sweeten the deal: I'll chuck in some packs of noodles (I'm back at Uni, that's all I'm eating!) :lol :lol
Don't forget the project bike. With his time off the road Nick will have it rebuilt and painted and nice yellow.
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Swapsies, Nick?
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The ACPO guidelines from 2011 to 2015 are 10 per cent plus 2mph, so in a 70mph zone if you do 79mph you may receive a fixed penalty when education is not appropiate. Speed awareness course if appropiate from 79mph to 86mph. Since Richard Brunstrom departed from North Wales police, Mark Polin has signed up to these guidelines, so these would apply on the A55.
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I'm guessing that means my offer of £50 for your bike is no good?
I'll sweeten the deal: I'll chuck in some packs of noodles (I'm back at Uni, that's all I'm eating!) :lol :lol
Don't forget the project bike. With his time off the road Nick will have it rebuilt and painted and nice yellow.
I'm guessing that means my offer of £50 for your bike is no good?
I'll sweeten the deal: I'll chuck in some packs of noodles (I'm back at Uni, that's all I'm eating!) :lol :lol
Don't forget the project bike. With his time off the road Nick will have it rebuilt and painted and nice yellow.
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I got done recently.
Just directly South of Inveraray (Argyll) for an average of 79mph over 3/4 mile being followed (rather closely) by an unmarked police car. No VASCAR just some timing unit in the car.
I put my hands up, was polite etc but all they were interested in was getting the ticket out as quick as poss.
3/4 mile doesn't give you much of a chance. It's about that point I start to think, who's this clown following me and start to get suspicious.
Also I came up behind them coming out of the town, and sat behind them at the traffic lights before the hump back bridge, when the lights went green they sat there for a good few seconds. I think they are just out there hitting KPI's.
Anyway if you are out and about in Argyll, it's a burgundy Audi A6 estate based in Dunoon, and it's busy. Guess there's not much else for cops tae dae in Argyll.
Good to hear you've hung on to yer license Nick.
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Glad to hear you've kept your license Nick .
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Thanks folks. Actually, my biggest worry was the costs if I'd had to have attended court in Wales, so it's a relief that they saw fit to deal with it in my absence.
And Christo, I know you're at Uni, and you have to experiment with all these things, but you really ought to stop taking those drugs mate :lol
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I've just noticed how over active I've been on the reply button. For which I'm truly repentant
Mickey
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281)
We do obey the limit :)
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It's not that 60 is too high a limit, it's just that there are some lunatics who seem to think that's not enough :eek
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281[/url])
We do obey the limit :)
These are the reports that are doing my fat swede in..........no mention whatsoever that there has also been a big increase in car driver fatalities....no mr news and no mrs charitable do gooder lower limit gimp.....lets just pick out what we wanna pick out and make bikes look bad :( :( :(
Dragging this up just to be a whinge.
But case in point to my beef with the way that mitorbikes are singled out.......although i specifically mentioned this in another post that i cant find now but anyway here's another report of a bad crash in Wales.
Involving "vehicles"
By vehicles they mean anything other than a bike because they dont wish to single out that particular vehicle for bad press and nastyness.
even though a bike is a "vehicle" it would have specifically stated and over enphasised the fact that motorbikes had crashed if that had been the case.
Im telling yas......its a conspiracy :grumble
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-29781273 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-29781273)
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Earlier i drove the truck back from Craven Arm,A49 and there was a speed camera van tucked in along a 60 mph straight where you have already travelled about 1/2 mile of straight ,he was well hidden,,i guess he would of hd most bikes and alot of cars,,sneaky bugger,,,and definatley not a dangerous stretch of road,,,,will be a few tonight thinking,,"when will it arrive in the post?" :'(
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It's not that 60 is too high a limit, it's just that there are some lunatics who seem to think that's not enough :eek
Yep, just like down here in Hampshire where they're busy dropping lots of National Limit roads to 50mph, the people that they want to target are not going to pay any attention to that change :(
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Well, as we all know, ALL accidents are cos of excess speed :stop :rolleyes
But oh look, if we drop the speed limits, we seem to accidentally make more money from fines :think
Who would've thought it?
:grumble
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29584281[/url])
We do obey the limit :)
These are the reports that are doing my fat swede in..........no mention whatsoever that there has also been a big increase in car driver fatalities....no mr news and no mrs charitable do gooder lower limit gimp.....lets just pick out what we wanna pick out and make bikes look bad :( :( :(
Edit today:-
Dragging this up just to be a whinge.
But case in point to my beef with the way that motorbikes are singled out.......although i specifically mentioned this in another post that i cant find now but anyway here's another report of a bad crash in Wales.
Involving "vehicles" :rolleyes
By vehicles they mean anything other than a bike because they dont wish to single out that particular vehicle for bad press and nastyness.
even though a bike is a "vehicle" it would have specifically stated and over enphasised the fact that motorbikes had crashed if that had been the case.
Im telling yas......its a conspiracy :grumble
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-29781273[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-29781273[/url])