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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 04 December 2023, 09:01:17 pm »
four or five times a year, I remove the rear footrests and the hugger and wipe off the excess chain oil that has been thrown off during that time. I don't have a gripe with the oil since I've been using for years and still on the same chain and rear sprocket, its just a pain having to do this. I have previously seen the marks on the hugger, but this time I thought Id throw it open for comments as to cause/remedy. The ones on the inside of the hugger look to be created by the rear tyre as there is an edge built up where the tyre would drop off contact. The one on the exterior looks to be caused by contact with the right side tailpipe. I dont really wish to abandon the hugger.

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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 30 October 2023, 06:35:17 pm »
I'll have to relocate the knives and chisels soon, somewhere well out of reach

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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 25 October 2023, 08:10:05 pm »
When I quit working in 2015, I bro8ught home all of my personal tools, 48 years worth. I had nowhere to put them in the garage, so I bought a Halfords tool cupboard (6 drawers) and a top box to go on it (6 drawers). The drawers are all full. Kamasa socket set bought in 1970, a few remnants from spanner sets of the past - Britool/Geodore/Kennedy, all the stuff we made as apprentices, scribing blocks, vee blocks, toolmakers clamps etc, countless Allen keys, plus bearing pullers, hole punch sets etc etc etc. Ive managed to sell some of the measuring equipment recently, micrometres, morse taper sleeves, drill sets, precision squares. My 4 year old grandson loves it, hes straight in the garage and getting stuff out and Im chuffed to bits that he knows what a tool is called what it does, and how to use it (under close supervision)

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General / Odd noise, but nothing found
« on: 12 October 2023, 08:19:36 pm »
Noticed an odd constant noise appearing to come from the front of the bike the other day. Decided to investigate as had a window between the humdrum everyday tasks bestowed upon me in retirement. Off with the brakes/wheel etc, bearings are fine and in good nick, likewise nothing else binding, so decided to clean  and check the bobbins while the wheel was off too. All back together ok, so at this stage I'm putting my money on tyre noise. Curious though, I did note that the noise disappears when ridden over a solid metal grid/drain cover etc




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General / Re: New kid on the block
« on: 07 October 2023, 08:16:25 pm »
G'Day Mate  :lol Sorry cant help with track bikes but there are some on here who can help.Also  "Fazer which has been stripped of its fairings and headlight" In the UK we generally call that a bike that has been crashed  :D
Search Track Day and member agricola as I think they have done a lot in this area



Yes, I take mine onto the track several times a year (as often as I can afford). Mine is the FZ6 S2 model, so later than your FZS600. Mine is currently my only bike, so has to double up for road use too, but I have modified the bike as follows:


Scorpion decat link pipe and twin tailpipes
Hydraulic clutch conversion
Gear indicator
Power Commander 5 and Dyno setup
Crash bungs/frame sliders
One tooth down on the front sprocket (track use only)
Brake lever guard (compulsory in the UK for track riding)


As for the FZS600 on track, Ive never seen one on track, but there are videos on youtube of them. One point to remember though, is that you can take most any bike to a trackday within reason and if its in good enough shape. You dont have to spend money on them. You dont need slick tyres, fancy levers, lap timers etc. I'm sure that some of the boxeye owners on here may also advise you that K&N air filters may require some serious fettling on the carberetors to get the fuelling right. At this stage , my advice would be, get the bike running smoothly as it is now, and in good order because ridden hard on track puts demands on suspension/tyres/engine /rider etc. Do a trackday or two, then think about what you want to do with the bike to improve it for the track, or wether you think another machine would be better for what you want. Before you go on tarck, change the oil and filter, coolant, brake fluid, and the front fork oil. Ensure that the rear shock is in working order and tyres are modern and up to the task. Let us know how you get on, its blisteringly good fun



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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Tyres (that old chestnut)
« on: 21 September 2023, 08:24:50 am »
Unless you're riding in the fast group, at the front, on track, its highly unlikely that you;d notice any significant difference for everyday road use between any of the modern sport touring tyres. They really are astonishingly good

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Fazer8 / FZ8 / Re: Fazer 800 Running issue - With video
« on: 20 September 2023, 05:20:25 pm »
Tickover looks way too high to me, should be around 1000 to 1250 I reckon. Also, when you turn the key on, Ibelieve that you have to wait for the tacho needle to sweepm all the way to max revs and backm to zero, to allow it to complete the systems check. Have a real good close look at the rubber sleeves on the injectors to make sure they are all seated correctly

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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 13 September 2023, 08:16:12 pm »
Trackday at Donington Park. Weather was good. The S2 is a capable, versatile machine, middle of intermediate group

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: FZ6 dash gone, help needed
« on: 23 August 2023, 09:21:07 pm »
My dash is gone, nothing is displayed on the dash only the blue light is on. Will a S2 dash fit as a bolt on? Found that someone opened the dash and had to be cut apart to brake into


Try Breakers yards for a working direct replacement

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General / Re: Just Stop oil
« on: 26 July 2023, 08:27:54 pm »
Been thinking what would I do faced with one of their demonstrations blocking the road. Wouldn't take the chance on riding through as they all have cameras so I can be done for dangerous driving. So what about filtering to the front turning the ignition off and taking the keys out and pushing the bike through them then once safely past jump on and off I go.Problem is now they have stopped gluing themselves to the road and instead are slow walking my plan rely s on me being able to push my bike faster than they can walk  :lol
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I think you've got right if you're on the bike. Not much you can do if you're stuck in a motor car though, save band together and pick them up ans throw them out of the way.


Damn nuisance though. They had to have extra security at Donington for WSB weekend before last, and at the last Test Match. Cricket FFS. Strikes me they're doing there cause more harm than good, hitting the man in the street. Surely, if you need to make a political point, then you have to hit the politicians

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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 13 July 2023, 07:05:31 pm »
Engine light staying on is a failure, and could have a number of causes. Time for a cautionary tale. We bought a Discovery 2 some years back and took it for several MOT tests over the years. One year, we took it to a different garage. which failed it as none of the warning lights were illuminating at switch on. I nearly fell over. I didn't even know it was modern enough to have warning lights, but it had 3 that needed to come on and then off after the systems check is completed. (search the three amigos). I explained that this was a new one on me, but it was a major. Long story short, previous owner wouldn't spend money on correcting the faults, so removed the front dash and covered up the three lights. With the covers removed, the lights were on all the time, so another investigation ensued, resulting in  another ABS unit being fitted, all three lights now off.


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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 10 July 2023, 09:40:56 pm »
Well, I've put down a deposit on a 2010 Fabia 1.2 2 HTP which has done 118,000 miles and is priced at £2245.

I rode to the dealership (pretty much just a gravel area on a farm that is next to another dealers/ workshop) although it wasn't until I was halfway there that I realised I'd not brought my driving shoes   :o but I found that if I just undid the zips and velcro on my riding boots, I had enough freedom of movement to control the car.

I had a bit of a chat with the dealer first, then took it for a test drive (he didn't even ask for my driving licence, but I was hardly likely to leave my bike there and vamoose with the car!)

It was a little tricky to drive to start with as the height of the brake pedal was much greater than what I'd got used to in the Corsa I'd learned on and, of course, the clutch feel was different, but I drove it around (mostly on 30 and 40 mph roads) for several miles.

The only real problem I had was on a single lane hump backed bridge with traffic lights at the top. I had to stop, so I figured I'd be able to practice a hill start, unfortunately I got the clutch/ accelerator balance wrong the first time and stalled it, much to the annoyance of the BMW driver behind me who decided beeping his horn was the correct way to help...

Anyway, the second time I got it right and then I tried some reversing in a car park which went pretty well and on the way back I got onto a 50mph road and tried out 5th gear.

From my (very limited!) experience, there weren't any nasty noises, although the Check Engine light was on, however I was told that it was an issue with a filter that they were going to fix. There was also a "clunk" when I tried a hot start, but (supposedly) that was a loose exhaust bracket which, again, would be fixed.

Once they say they've sort those out, I'm going to pay for an RAC inspection and the dealer has signed up to the AA Car Standards code. It will come with free AA cover that actually makes no difference to me as I have Any Vehicle RAC cover, but WTH! Also the MOT runs out in September, so they're going to do a new one for me.

The tyres are only about a year old and barely worn, so that's ok.

One thing I have discovered is that the Fabia needs the Timing Chain, Tensioner and Water Pump replaced every 60k miles, so I guess someone decided to flog it off before they needed to pay for between £500 and £800 of work, however, on further reflection, even including that, it still bring the car in at a maximum of £3,100 so that's well in budget for me.

It comes with a 3 month guarantee, so fingers crossed everything goes smoothly... :)


I hope you'll search for the list of possible cause for the check light to come on.

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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 10 July 2023, 09:31:17 pm »
Well I did my first test drive today, which was a bit of a nerve wracking experience

The lady at the dealers was friendly and helpful, which was a good thing, because I had pretty much no idea what I was doing, so she suggested I sit in it, then have a look under the bonnet, although there was some insulation material by the firewall that looked like it had been pulled about (by rats or something, I don't know).

There was also a problem because she said that when they serviced the car (they'd only had it a week) some water must have got into the electric window switches, so they wouldn't go down. That meant that I had to get her to adjust the wing mirrors because the controls for them were a bit dodgy too!

She said they'd get all this fixed, but it wasn't a great beginning.

I was probably almost more nervous than when I did my driving test, but fortunately I wasn't too bad with the clutch control when I went for a little pootle around some local back streets (although there's barely enough room to get down them with cars parked either side!), fortunately I managed to avoid hitting anything and got us back to the show room safely.

I've decided to have a think about it and if the car is still there in a few days I might give it another try and go out on the A27 to get a better feel for it, also I can check if they've fixed the problems with it.

Oh, and I was so out of sorts that I managed to leave my driving licence there, so I'm going to have to pop round and pick it up on Monday...  :o


Walk away from this one Graham. I'm not sure how you can water into the door panels giving a service (garage service is just an oil change these days), and I'm surprised a reputable dealer would let anyone test drive a car knowing it has faults

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: Throttle position sensor
« on: 14 June 2023, 09:05:19 pm »
Installed the new TPS this afternoon. Two bits of good news, no parts left over, and the bike is running much better now, thottle response is as it should be. I checked the resistances of the new one before fitting and before refitting the throttle bodies, just to make sure it was within spec. Graham, is the info you posted regarding diagnostics, what do the numbers refer to, and are they adjustable through the system? Where did you find that info?

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: Throttle position sensor
« on: 12 June 2023, 10:27:18 pm »
Comments are appreciated, but Id already got the TPS off, relying on the info from the multi meter. The new TPS will be here tomorrow, first thing is to check the readings of the new one to see if they conform to the info in the manuals. If they do, then Ill fit it and refit assemblies.

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: Throttle position sensor
« on: 12 June 2023, 08:53:31 am »
Did you check the TPS range using the Diag mode on the instruments?


No, I used a multimeter neither mention using the diagnostics mode. Given the findings, surely that points to the TPS? Unless you can tell me otherwise?

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General / Re: Which Fazer is the best and why?
« on: 12 June 2023, 08:49:31 am »
but equally, it cant be denied that the fzs600 was blisteringly good machine when it came out, Right bike. right price, good performance, and sold well. The foxeye was much better looking than its predecessor, and still is in my view

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General / Re: Which Fazer is the best and why?
« on: 11 June 2023, 09:34:18 pm »
I can t really comment since ive only ever ridden the fz6 s2, but i will throw into the mix that I would never have another carburated motorcycle, both from personal experoence and noting the many posts on here regarding carb problems with the fzs600. That alone makes the fz6 s2 a superior machine to the fzs600

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FZ6 / Fazer / Re: Rattle when coasting
« on: 11 June 2023, 04:58:20 pm »
Check your drive chain

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FZ6 / Fazer / Throttle position sensor
« on: 11 June 2023, 04:57:27 pm »
Sweated away in the garage to get this little foccer off yesterday/today. The bikes not been accelerating smoothly from closed recently, so I took a stab at the TPS as the most likely culprit, given the evidence. Manual says 4k-6k oms closed and 0 to 3.5k-6.5k ohms. Mine reads 0.34k ohms closed and 0.34k-1.6k ohms when wound on, and Ive cross checked with another meter too. Theres a lot of stuff to get off to get at the little bugger too, just for the sake of two screws. Would have been much quicker to just drill two holes in the frame in line with the screws :lol


Price from F--l--s, £223.63 :eek


Prices on ebay range from £18 upwards. I think i'll settle for a slightly more expensive one and avoid the unpackaged available from people who can't spell the text in the adverts correctly.

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General / Re: Whoever posts last is best
« on: 29 May 2023, 09:31:11 am »
Well done Graham

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Oil drain bolt gasket
« on: 16 April 2023, 07:50:31 pm »

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General / Re: Expensive sprocket alternative?
« on: 16 April 2023, 06:27:37 pm »
What about just keeping the down one tooth permanently on the bike. Unless you do a lot of long distance motorway I can't see a problem.


Speedo reads out and Im not wanting a speedo healer particularly, plus its a sizeable hit on economy. I dont mind swapping sprockets, its no bother to me and doesnt take long at all, its just the cost of the nuts thats winding me up. I will get around one way or another, safely.

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General / Re: Expensive sprocket alternative?
« on: 15 April 2023, 03:24:06 pm »
Its actually a good suggestion, I am going to look at that one. As for overkill, not really, I'd say that a very large number of riders swap sprockets for trackdays, some have specific sizes for specific tracks.

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General / Re: Expensive sprocket alternative?
« on: 06 April 2023, 08:45:38 pm »
Drill the nut on the corners, use a Renthal race sprocket (with holes) & wire lock nut to sprocket, no need to keep replacing nuts, always wash threads with brake cleaner & use a couple of dabs of red loctite ...  :thumbup


Not sure thats possible, as there s a 37mm x 20mm x 4 mm spacer between the nut and the sprocket, but I'll have a look

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