Well said COFFEE.......one life ,bike it mmmmmmmm 50's diner......i'll fill the thou up In the morning , and burn the foccin lot in a couple of hours that should help control global warming
Quote Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.I think you will find that the intended purpose of these taxes is to change behaviour London Congestion Charge Climate Change Levy Air Passenger Duty Vehicle Excise Duty variable rates etcNever heard of the 'Green Tax'? Something to do with cabbage?
Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.
All of science is not in agreement
Would they release a press statement thanking us for helping the planet.
QuoteAll of science is not in agreementIndeed, there are those who believe the earth is flat and that cigarettes don’t cause cancer. So beware what the gov controlled msm tells you.
I know that's the official line but surely you can't honestly believe that's the governments intention?
The Tobacco Excise Duty Escalator is to make people cut down on smoking.Otherwise don't you think there would be extra tax on vaping?
The Scottish Government's minimum pricing policy is to stop the Scots doing the same on White Lightening, and
Yes there are those people - and they are nutters. So you are saying that all the climate experts who do not tow the line and conform are also nutters,
By 1896 Svante Arrhenius had precited that man’s use of fossil fuels would lead to an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere in turn leading to a rise in temperature.
Others have pointed out that in older earth history the earth Co2 level has been higher and yet had lower temperatures. There is an argument that points out the reluctance of climate predictions to take any notice of the main source of our heat - the Sun and its 11-12 year cycle or its even longer cycle ontop of that one, evidence has shown that there have been much warmer periods without the help of the industrial revolution. The statement that the climate science is settled is simply not correct. That is the BBC's stated position on the subject (the climate science is settled ) and they are refusing to air anyone with an opposite view, they are supposed to be neutral. Proof of their misinformation can be seen when ever they cover a story about global warming and show a glacier "melting" when infact it is doing exactly what glaciers do - which is flow to the sea just like a river. IMO that can be justifiably classed as fake news. I remember in the early 80s being taught that we were heading for another ice age and indeed the records show that we are over due for one. At that time there was serious talk by governments to control climate to prevent the onset of an ice age by using aircraft to spray in the atmosphere, could it be that it worked too well and Co2 has been used as a cover story. What about if it has run out of control and they are now using aircraft to spray to try and cut down the sunlight and your Co2 tax is funding it.
.High strength beer duty will do nothing to stop those intent on wrecking them selves - do you think they care for how much it costs, with that you are just taxing the already vulnerable -now that's not a very socialist attitude to care is it.
o you honestly think that raising tobacco taxes extortionately has had no affect on reducing smoking?
DQuoteo you honestly think that raising tobacco taxes extortionately has had no affect on reducing smoking?The problem is it has literally become extortionate. Smoking is an addiction, and addiction that is extremely hard to overcome. The more chaotic your life, or the less money you have, the more likely you are to smoke.The price is no longer a deterrent but simply extortion, and sadly taking money often from those who can least afford it.I am not saying tobacco should ever be cheap – but ten quid a pack or more? It’s madness.
The people that make these decisions are on 100s of thousands of pound a year,
I think we need a dedicated politics thread BUT with some ground rules - remain polite - no name calling or swearing
The problem is it has literally become extortionate. Smoking is an addiction, and addiction that is extremely hard to overcome. The more chaotic your life, or the less money you have, the more likely you are to smoke.
You lot just cant leave it alone..find a political forum and talk shit on that..what gets my goat is bikers that aint really bikers..when we meet for a fry up and a ride no one I know talks about this shit..
QuotePeople who moan when it cools down and rains for a day or 2.My garden/allotment is parched. I hope it's cold and pisses down all weekend It's not raining in Tokyo, apparently
People who moan when it cools down and rains for a day or 2.My garden/allotment is parched. I hope it's cold and pisses down all weekend
Yes I'd heard that on my elaborate radio set earlier
Quote from: Flooky on 28 July 2019, 08:14:16 pmYou lot just cant leave it alone..find a political forum and talk shit on that..what gets my goat is bikers that aint really bikers..when we meet for a fry up and a ride no one I know talks about this shit..Go on get it off your chest -- that is what this thread is all about and what makes this forum so good is that its not talking about bike shit all the time.