I would reccomend you get the longest of the two varieties of chinese levers that are generally on offer. I can't help feeling that some of the riders who favour short levers are the same people who never practise emergency stops from speed, on a heavy old lump like the Fazer with 15 year old calipers it is so much more difficult using two fingers rather than four.The brakes on the Gen 1 are good, but nothing like modern stuff where two fingered braking is pretty easy. I'm sure there are people here who do just fine (probably a lot younger than me!) with short levers on a Gen 1 but if you haven't tried a hard stop with the shorty levers i would give it a try just to make sure.
I didn't realise there was documented evidence that those who use short levers don't practice heavy braking as opposed to those with normal levers which do.[/quoteWhat documented evidence? I didn't go that far.
Quote from: Kenbob on 03 April 2017, 05:55:32 pmI didn't realise there was documented evidence that those who use short levers don't practice heavy braking as opposed to those with normal levers which do.[/quoteWhat documented evidence? I didn't go that far.
For your info, I have shorty levers on my thou and I stop perfectly well thank you, mostly and hopefully not in an emergency but should the need arise then my levers would cope admirally as would I after 35 plus years of riding.Incedentaly, where did you get that gem of information which suggests people with long levers practice emergency stops more than people with short levers, perhaps if I change back to long levers then I would be a better rider, is that what you're suggesting.
I am average build but have always found the reach to clutch lever a minor annoyance so last week ordered a pair of alloy adjustable levers from SG Racing via their ebay shop for my 2016 Tracer700.......I realise I could have ordered ultra cheap ones from China/Hong Kong etc but these were priced midway between the cheap & the very dear ones & delivery was by return of post. Very happy!
Quote from: Kenbob on 04 April 2017, 08:15:08 amFor your info, I have shorty levers on my thou and I stop perfectly well thank you, mostly and hopefully not in an emergency but should the need arise then my levers would cope admirally as would I after 35 plus years of riding.Incedentaly, where did you get that gem of information which suggests people with long levers practice emergency stops more than people with short levers, perhaps if I change back to long levers then I would be a better rider, is that what you're suggesting.No it isn't. I was inferring from the start that it is likely that the first time you find shorty levers don't suit you is when you practice an emergency stop - and i should have gone on to say a stop that takes effort, say from 100mph. I think most would agree that four fingers is best from that sort of speed. I was only trying to contribute constructive discussion, not invite facicious comment.Your first reaction to points you disagree with is to take it personally. Please try not to.
Quote from: Simon.Pieman on 05 April 2017, 09:38:36 amQuote from: Kenbob on 04 April 2017, 08:15:08 amFor your info, I have shorty levers on my thou and I stop perfectly well thank you, mostly and hopefully not in an emergency but should the need arise then my levers would cope admirally as would I after 35 plus years of riding.Incedentaly, where did you get that gem of information which suggests people with long levers practice emergency stops more than people with short levers, perhaps if I change back to long levers then I would be a better rider, is that what you're suggesting.No it isn't. I was inferring from the start that it is likely that the first time you find shorty levers don't suit you is when you practice an emergency stop - and i should have gone on to say a stop that takes effort, say from 100mph. I think most would agree that four fingers is best from that sort of speed. I was only trying to contribute constructive discussion, not invite facicious comment.Your first reaction to points you disagree with is to take it personally. Please try not to.Sorry I found your comment quite funny and in some way your last comment too, how can you say that people will find shorty levers unsuitable when they have to practice emergency stops, you do know that shorty levers are used on race bikes and on track almost all bends are an emergency stop of some degree.Shorty levers are adjustable for span too so you can either have a long stretch or short stretch to the lever.When I fitted mine it was instant comfort compared to the standard levers and also with that comfort comes a degree of extra confidence that I can get to the lever quicker, I hate having my hand outstretched to grab a brake or clutch lever.I take your point that an emergency stop in not the best time to find out that your brake lever is at the bar but to be honest I don't think that would be a lever problem more a spongy brake problem which should've been sorted before the bike went near a road. My apologies to you if I offended you but to be honest some of your comments are quite humorous, I myself use two finger braking for general riding but 3 fingers for extra pressure when close to shitting myself.At the end of the day it's what people are comfortable with and with using.My apologies again, no offence meant.
Listen my friend, the fact that you've done track days is of no consequence to me and proves nothing yet you come on here telling people how many fingers they should be using and shorty levers aren't the best levers And blah blah blah.Enough now.Do it your way and I'll do it mine, it's kept me alive for 37 years of riding so I must be doing something right,it seems the only thing I've done wrong is to pull you up on a couple of points you made which quite frankly I saw as bullshit. trust me I won't pull you up anymore because you're a trackday rider and obviously like the sound of your own opinion and frankly I'm not worthy.Have a nice life and happy racing mr pieman.Good day to you sir.