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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: youngsterbiker on 24 February 2017, 09:09:42 pm

Title: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: youngsterbiker on 24 February 2017, 09:09:42 pm
So I "won" a free dyno power run... the bike is 17 years old... and i was hoping for a solid 85 bhp.... how wrong I was.. shes running 80.65 bhp... Not a bad number but would have liked to have seen better..
Now here's the problem, the air/fuel mixture seems to go mad at 5000 revs. The guy running the dyno has suggested a new air filter as a quick cheap fix. Poor guy had long queue so I did not ask more questions.
Can anybody think of anything that could help solve the problem?
Bike is a 2000 fzs 600, only change is aftermarket exhaust. :)
Cheers.
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: unfazed on 24 February 2017, 09:14:45 pm
K&N filter will sort it out  :thumbup
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 24 February 2017, 10:17:11 pm
Had mine dyno'd a few times, although never with the current K&N air filter fitted.
There was always a discrepancy at mid range, but was always told aftermarket exhausts would never match the OEM one on a Fazer, and this fella really knows his stuff.
Rejetting never helped either, tried that and it never ran right at all.
It's a 17yr old bike, don't expect miracles, just enjoy what you've got.


Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 24 February 2017, 10:18:43 pm
Moderators, you gotta sort out that miniscule texting thing, it happens a lot.
Don't even know why that happened?
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: Bretty on 24 February 2017, 11:51:50 pm
I thought the fazer was supposed to be 95bhp from new and assumed with a sports exhaust and k&n filter it would be touching 100.

Where do all the horses go?
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: unfazed on 25 February 2017, 12:17:28 am
Fazer is rated at 95 Metric Hospower which is about 70Kw and 94 BHP

Dyno is at the rear wheel unless its converted to Crank. 10 to 15% would be the approximate losses between rank to rear wheel.
this would put 80 bhp at the lower end of the %  rule
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: Bretty on 25 February 2017, 02:17:16 am
So 95bhp (at the crank/flywheel)
and 80hp (at the wheel)
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 25 February 2017, 07:23:25 am
This was 4 years ago, when i used to be able to run the 100m in 9.5secs.
Now i can run 9.5metres in 100secs.  :lol


http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6358.msg64999.html#msg64999 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6358.msg64999.html#msg64999)
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 25 February 2017, 07:27:10 am
As i said above


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Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: slappy on 25 February 2017, 09:40:22 am
Different dyno, different conditions, even a different dyno operator can all have an effect on the bhp figure.
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: kebab19 on 25 February 2017, 10:34:52 am
Dynos obviously vary considerably, but I read somewhere a long time ago that the FZS600 puts out between 79 and 83 @ the back wheel. If this is true, it sounds like your peak power is well within the normal range. The Thundercat only generates about 5 ponies more (until the ram-air effect kicks in) so unless you only want top-end power as the later R6s did, 80 ponies with an impressive midrange is very good for a 19 year old middleweight all rounder.   
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 25 February 2017, 12:27:33 pm
Dynos obviously vary considerably, but I read somewhere a long time ago that the FZS600 puts out between 79 and 83 @ the back wheel. If this is true, it sounds like your peak power is well within the normal range. The Thundercat only generates about 5 ponies more (until the ram-air effect kicks in) so unless you only want top-end power as the later R6s did, 80 ponies with an impressive midrange is very good for a 19 year old middleweight all rounder.


Exactly, it is what it is, if you need or want more then get a bigger bike.
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: matt7chunk on 25 February 2017, 01:22:26 pm
hey youngster i was there lol colchester kawasaki i watched the run , i was there with my fazer
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: Bretty on 25 February 2017, 04:35:13 pm
Those curves are very interesting!

If you ignore the max torque and power figures and look at the extra torque/power you're getting at the lower revs (below 5,000rpm). It looks about 20% more!  I'm not sure how much time i spend with my bike between 3,000 and 5,000rpm, but I should think that extra power would be quite noticeable around town and off the line.
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 25 February 2017, 05:15:19 pm
Moderators, you gotta sort out that miniscule texting thing, it happens a lot.
Don't even know why that happened?

is it better now?

it only happens with a couple of users. Must be their browsers
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 25 February 2017, 07:44:38 pm
Moderators, you gotta sort out that miniscule texting thing, it happens a lot.
Don't even know why that happened?

is it better now?

it only happens with a couple of users. Must be their browsers


Yes, thank you  :thumbup
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: youngsterbiker on 25 February 2017, 09:16:13 pm
Just as an update... i am in no way complaining about 80 bhp. its plenty enough to kill me. i need no more. its more the dip at 5k revs that is bugging me.
it accelerates fast then drops for a second till it picks up again.. thats what i want to fix :)
Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: daviee on 25 February 2017, 09:40:49 pm
might need the carbs cleaned

Title: Re: So I got her on the Dyno...
Post by: darrsi on 25 February 2017, 10:44:20 pm
It's the exhaust that's causing it.