Quote from: VNA on 28 May 2019, 11:12:02 PM Can I just post this again; Harley Davidson looking for a European manufactuering base. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019/may/harley-davidson-build-europe/ But of course like a great many companies one country they will not be considering right now is the UK.
Thank foc for that
I'm with you there Hedgetrimmer over priced crap
Quote from: Grahamm on 29 May 2019, 11:34:46 amQuote from: YamFazFan on 28 May 2019, 10:51:07 pmVery true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.So what? How someone voted previously doesn't mean that they will vote the same way next time (unless you're a rabid "my Party right or wrong" supporter).And you don't know that they have changed their minds either.However when you were adding up the various parties EU Parliament election votes into Remain V Leave totals the other day, you'd put every single Green voter into 'Remain' Oh and apparently around 30% of Liberal Democrat supporters voted Leave in 2016, but you've put 100% of them in your 'Remain' tally too
Quote from: YamFazFan on 28 May 2019, 10:51:07 pmVery true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.So what? How someone voted previously doesn't mean that they will vote the same way next time (unless you're a rabid "my Party right or wrong" supporter).
Very true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.
We will become poorer outside the EU.
Are you heading up to Scotland mtread?.
Jeremy Hunt looks the most like a prime minister. [/l][/l]
25% of Green Party voters opted for Leave in the 2016 EU referendum apparently
Quote 25% of Green Party voters opted for Leave in the 2016 EU referendum apparently Where did you get that figure from? The one I've seen says 20%, and that's YouGov which is usually pretty reliable.https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
Quote Are you heading up to Scotland mtread?.Well, we're not all Rob Roys
In other news, I see the Tory leadership fight has kicked off They're all stabbing each other in the back? Who's your Least Worst candidate? Mine's Jeremy Hunt. He's slightly less obnoxious than most of the others
QuoteQuote from: VNA on 28 May 2019, 11:12:02 PM Can I just post this again; Harley Davidson looking for a European manufactuering base. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019/may/harley-davidson-build-europe/ But of course like a great many companies one country they will not be considering right now is the UK. QuoteThank foc for that QuoteI'm with you there Hedgetrimmer over priced crap I agree. I have no interest in Harley Davidsons. But I would quite happily see them manufactured here for the UK and Euro market. You are talking quality well paid jobs.But the reality is Harley Davidson will not consider the UK as a manufacturing base for even a nono second. Nissan has cancelled the UK production of the X-Trail in the UK. Honda is moving out lock, stop and barrel. Schaeffler are moving out. Michelin are moving out. There is now a growing list of companies moving part or all of their production out of the UK.The priority for these manufactures is to access the EU single market. Even your darling economist Professor Minford, in his frankly flawed positive analysis of a NO DEAL BREXIT, admits that UK manufacturing will be all but wiped out.I am, and continue to be, at a complete and total loss as to why any ordinary person in the UK would wish the UK to leave the EU and the single market.We will become poorer outside the EU.
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Our Councils/local authorities are severely cash strapped, the NHS is chronically underfunded, the roads have all been carpet bombed with no hope of quality repairs, some people cant get to see a GP without a 2 week wait, we cant build our own power stations without funding/materials/labour/expertise from abroad, the streets are overrun by criminal gangs with no hope of apprehending many of them (and they know it), our schools churn out people unfit for the world of work cos they cant read or write, let alone string a sentence together.
QuoteOur Councils/local authorities are severely cash strapped, the NHS is chronically underfunded, the roads have all been carpet bombed with no hope of quality repairs, some people cant get to see a GP without a 2 week wait, we cant build our own power stations without funding/materials/labour/expertise from abroad, the streets are overrun by criminal gangs with no hope of apprehending many of them (and they know it), our schools churn out people unfit for the world of work cos they cant read or write, let alone string a sentence together.Nothing to do with the EU. Deliberate underfunding by Tory government imposed austerity, following collapse of the labour party's unregulated banking system. For which we are all still paying, unless you are rich enough to avoid.
Our membership of the EU has not been a Golden Period of British history
Our Councils/local authorities are severely cash strapped,
the NHS is chronically underfunded
we cant build our own power stations without funding/materials/labour/expertise from abroad,
Fixed it for you.
Not denying it. But the imposed austerity and dismantling of the state, is all Tory. Something they were delighted to have an excuse for.
Well I'm fairly certain he's SNP
However when you were adding up the various parties EU Parliament election votes into Remain V Leave totals the other day, you'd put every single Green voter into 'Remain'
What gets me is that you and your little red book waving mate think that all brexit supporters are also Conservative supporters, you constantly attack the conservatives - you will garner no argument from me with that tact. Yet you will constantly defend labours record which is far from perfect either.
I remember the New Labour period well. I stopped my political levy during that period as a result of New Labour. I made it clear to my union brothers and sistersl, as well as friends and associates that I viewed Tony Blair and New Labour in the same manner I viewed The Tories, as enemies of our people and our country.
QuoteWhat gets me is that you and your little red book waving mate think that all brexit supporters are also Conservative supporters, you constantly attack the conservatives - you will garner no argument from me with that tact. Yet you will constantly defend labours record which is far from perfect either.I wonder if I am the “little red book waving mate”I remember the New Labour period well. I stopped my political levy during that period as a result of New Labour. I made it clear to my union brothers and sistersl, as well as friends and associates that I viewed Tony Blair and New Labour in the same manner I viewed The Tories, as enemies of our people and our country. And in Scotland Labour is yet to recover from that betrayal. Thankfully New Labour is dead, and once again The Labour Party can be seen as the party of the many not the few.But on BREXIT, The Labour Party is a mess. Mr Corbyn seems to want to have a think about things and discuss it in September at the party conference. He better wake up, in Scotland The Labour Party is now on life support, and if Mr Corbyn doesn’t make some decisive decision soon and firmly oppose BREXIT, well The Labour Party right across the UK could end up in intensive care along with the Tory Party.It is clear that the BREXIT dream is just that, a dream, a fantasy built on lies. If we want to protect our jobs and our economy, if we want to protect our future and environment, if we want to be part of the modern world – we must cancel article 50.