Perhaps some people can tell us how they have been positively affected and cheer us all (well me) up.
The only uncertainty about Brexit is that there is no certainty. Will somebody please tell me what they want
You are right, some of the consequences won't be realised for years, but some are already. As Bretty has said, the devaluation of the £ is already leading to job losses.
And yes we will stand or fall on our own merits. Isn't that exactly what the SNP in Scotland wants to do?
Incidentally we are already arranging to transfer EU laws into UK legislation. So perhaps we won't be quite so independent after all
Did anyone else see Andrew Marr interviewing Arron Banks on his BBC1 show this morning?.Crickey Marr worked himself up into a tizzy!. I just wanted to tell him to calm down and relax a bit like Banks.I don't think it can do anyone any good to get that worked up over it all
The only reason you don't understand what Brexiteers want is because you ask the questions but are not prepared to listen to the answers. Plenty have virtually spelled it out for you in this very thread. You are not interested in what Brexiteers want, only in what you perceive you can get for yourself within
I think there's no need to worry about this. Propaganda will get the majority to vote in whichever way suits the big capital best - people are easily manipulated and media is a very powerful tool.
Quote The only reason you don't understand what Brexiteers want is because you ask the questions but are not prepared to listen to the answers. Plenty have virtually spelled it out for you in this very thread. You are not interested in what Brexiteers want, only in what you perceive you can get for yourself withinThat's crap. At the beginning I asked two straightforward questions. 1. What should our future trading relationship be with the EU. 2. What should be done about the Irish Border. Nobody has answered either of those. Perhaps it's because the answers are embarrassing. All Brexiteers do is say 'We won, on repeat until red in the face'
Quote from: YamFazFan on 04 November 2018, 12:40:56 pmDid anyone else see Andrew Marr interviewing Arron Banks on his BBC1 show this morning?.Crickey Marr worked himself up into a tizzy!. I just wanted to tell him to calm down and relax a bit like Banks.I don't think it can do anyone any good to get that worked up over it all I didn't see it, but Marr used to have my respect as a journalist (and his recent series on The History of the World was excellent). If he is going that way too - and just after we got rid of that idiot Evan Davies from Newsnight, leaving only Emily Meritless to go - then I despair of the BBC. Although many did years ago.Still, they still have Mark Urban, ex-Army tank officer, who is adopting more responsibility for presenting lately. Perhaps with his background, he'll be a bit more non-partisan, less "OMG!!!!!!" emotional (and he has written some good books on military history and presented a good documentary on tank warfare in WW2 too).
Simple. Trading should carry on as normal.N.I. should be handed over to the EU, lock, stock, and Armalite (oops, bit too cynical there! ) barrel.
You should try watching Ch4 news if you like a good comedy. Jon "High'n'Mighty' Snow is hilarious!My view is simple. If you are going to invite a guest on to speak, then let them speak. If you just want to shout them down, don't be so rude and arrogant as to invite them on in the first place. And if you want to be impartial, invite on those you may not agree with as well as those you do, however disreputable they may be, if they are making the news in a significant way.If you want to air a BBC (or whoever) opinions program, then it should be called just that, not thinly disguised as being an impartial (what a hoot!) news program.
I've heard that Arron Banks' next interview is going to be broadcast on Wormwood Scrubs radio
Quote Simple. Trading should carry on as normal.N.I. should be handed over to the EU, lock, stock, and Armalite (oops, bit too cynical there! ) barrel.Thank you... Two small problemettes. 1. 'As normal' means tariff free and control free. We would have to join a Customs Union with the EU, and for that we would have to pay and take rules from them. It's called EFTA. Some Brexiteers don't like that
2. It all kicks off again, including bombing the UK (possibly by both sides)Glad we've got that sorted....
Who told you that?. Andrew Marr?
Why? In practical terms?
[/size]You are saying we should allow ourselves to be held to ransom by such people who would resort to terrorism.Plenty would say it never ended. Violent sectarianism is still a fact there, and it has been reported it is on the rise again anyway.The people of N.I. voted to remain in the EU. Let them, I say. Then the EU can be the ones who deal with all that sectarian nonsense. Not to mention N.I. is a net drain on the UK economy. Nothing-but-nothing-but win! [/font]
Quote Why? In practical terms?Because it takes two to agree a deal, and the EU will insist on conditions. They already do for Norway and Switzerland.
You and I are both old enough to remember what it was like before the Good Friday Agreement. Yes it still happens but it's nowhere near as bad now. If NI stays in the EU then the border is between NI and GB and the loyalists kick off. If it's between NI and Eire, then the Republicans kick off. A no win situation.
QuoteWho told you that?. Andrew Marr? No, Crapper of the Yard https://news.sky.com/story/national-crime-agency-launches-investigation-into-arron-banks-11541786