Starting problem. Please help.

[Blisteredfingerz]

Hi guys. Having a starting issue.


*Bike not used for 3 weeks.
*Battery was flat.
*Charged Battery.
*Turned on ignition and did not get normal ticking of the fuel pump. It normally goes mad when not been used for a while.
*Pressing starter button made a farting type buzz under the seat and caused the biggest relay? to tick continuously and neutral light to flash.
*Removed seat and disconnected the three lumps that look like relays. (not sure if they are)
*The biggest one is the one you can hear ticking in the video.
*Inside the biggest one there appeared to be moisture.
*WD-40'd all connection and refitted.
*Now electric start does not even make farty buzz noise and the biggest relay, if thats what it is, constantly ticks.


I have made a short video showing symptoms and posted it on youtube. Type "fazer starting issue" to find it or copy and paste into browser.[size=78%] [/size]


http://youtu.be/zyuE5Y5NxPk


Any help, advice, info much appreciated and I will try to answer questions as best I can.


Many thanks in advance chaps. Eagerly await responses.

[Davew]

I've had a similar thing with another bike where the battery was just knackered.  Said it was fully charged on my charger but didn't have enough to turn the engine over, just made the relays tick.

[Blisteredfingerz]

Ok cheers, Ill investigate that.


Forgot to mention that I left my keys in the slot with the ignition turned on for one whole week of the three weeks of non use, so must of totally and utterly drained the battery. Could be a vital bit of information[size=78%].[/size]
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[unfazed]

Yep, sounds like a dead cell or 2 in the battery

[tweetytek]

did you get this sorted mate, only I had the same symptoms and a fizzie and the cause was two-fold

Battery not at full charge - 13.85V was the final charge and held for 24 hrs (well down a few mV)

Starter cut off relay faulty

If you have food multimeter you can test both of these

??

[fuzzyfazer]

did you get this sorted mate, only I had the same symptoms and a fizzie and the cause was two-fold

Battery not at full charge - 13.85V was the final charge and held for 24 hrs (well down a few mV)

Starter cut off relay faulty

If you have food multimeter you can test both of these

??

Do these 'food' multimeters come banana shaped then? Or in tomato sauce?

FWIW I'd deffo go with dead cells in the battery. Ignition left on for that long would do it. Worth checking the ignition coils haven't burnt out as well.

[tweetytek]

Food.. Ha
Meant 'full'
Bloody spelle cheqer 

[positron]

Last week when I came back from holidays, my bike wouldn't even click. The battery was already causing issues last winter, so I knew it had to be the battery. But just to be sure, I tried push starting it. And it did start, but the strangest thing happened. Bike started and kept going making all sort of strange sounds. I don't think it was firing in all cylinders. And occasionally it would do a loud pop, loud enough to echo in the neighborhood.

I bought a new Yuasa battery, filled electrolyte, charged overnight with a Yuasa yu-power 900mAmp charger to 13.8v or so, fixed it to the bike everything works flawlessly now. I have the old battery on charger last 3-4 days, but the charger would switch to maintenance mode within seconds (which means the battery is gone I think), and even after 3 days of being on a charger, it only shows 12.4v or so.

[fuzzyfazer]

12.4 volts is roughly what it should be. A dead cell wouldn't necessarily drag the voltage down but would have a negative impact on the batterys ability to provide the necessary amps. which may cause the problem you've been having.

[fuzzyfazer]

The battery should only get over 12.5v when being charged or just after charging. As a rule of thumb a good battery should be between 12.4 & 12.8ish at rest. But a duff cell will only show itself on a drop test. Ie: when starting the bike from cold when it draws its maximum current :-)

[darrsi]

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=3314.0

[Blisteredfingerz]

Update. Fitted new battery. Still wouldnt start but turn over was stronger and faster. Then fitted new fuel pump and fuel pump relay. Fitted new fuel filter. As I was in there would of been rude not to. Bike started once fuel filter filled up. Running like a dream now.


Thanks for all your comments/advice


 

[darrsi]

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