Author Topic: Blind Spot (Read 7284 times)

pointer2null · « **on:** 31 October 2012, 08:01:33 am »

Why is it that every time I get a bike following me the pillock always rides directly behind me in the blind spot?

I had a prat with a loud exhaust following me this morning, I can hear him but not see him, so I moved position in the lane so I could keep him in the mirror. Guess what, me moved as well. Moron.

limax2 · « **Reply #1 on:** 31 October 2012, 08:49:03 am »

Maybe he feels he his doing a good thing by not blocking the rear view in your mirrors.

pointer2null · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 October 2012, 08:57:07 am »

He'd find it hard to block both at the same time.....

John Silva · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 October 2012, 10:01:03 am »

If he does block both mirrors.

Hes following far to close.

Skippernick · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 October 2012, 01:14:51 pm »

just wave him past.

BennyBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 October 2012, 01:20:58 pm »

How was he doing distance wise behind you??

I don't normally mind crap riders as long as they keep their distance.

pointer2null · « **Reply #6 on:** 31 October 2012, 01:36:07 pm »

Couldn't see him - he was in my blind spot

Sorry, couldn't resist.

He was probably a bit too close (less than the 2 seconds), but not excessively close.

He's not the only one mind - MOST bikers seem to do it, ride directly behind you. If I'm following a bike I offset myself so he/she can see me in the mirror.

chris.biker · « **Reply #7 on:** 31 October 2012, 05:52:44 pm »

also by offsetting yourself you increase your own view and the braking distance. So it is also what I do.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #8 on:** 31 October 2012, 06:24:03 pm »

I love it when you're waiting at lights and someone filters up and then stops right where you cant see them. A little bit further forward or backwards and they'd be easily visible

red98 · « **Reply #9 on:** 31 October 2012, 06:51:58 pm »

dont get me started

winds me up aswell .

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #10 on:** 31 October 2012, 07:10:36 pm »

Pointer. My eldest son passed his test recently and when we go out he does exactly as you have described. I put it down to him following me as he thinks I have picked the right line.

pointer2null · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 November 2012, 07:58:11 am »

At least I'm not the only one who finds this a annoying.

BBrown - try driving through a car wash and see if he still follows

Chillum · « **Reply #12 on:** 01 November 2012, 12:36:56 pm »

When I first started riding I was bimbling along the m-way when I did a life-saver to pull out into the outside lane for an overtake.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered a yellow & blue checked Pan sitting right in my blind spot - he must have been there a few minutes too without me realising. He gave me a nod and went off on his way, but I never forgot it. I now change position in lane every 30 seconds or so and watch for approaching riders behind me. It's never happened since.

MadDogMcQ · « **Reply #13 on:** 01 November 2012, 01:17:05 pm »

Nothing gripes me more than someone riding too close to either me or another vehicle. I regularly see riders hanging off the boot of a car and then wonder why someone pulling out of a side-street doesn't see them.

Dave48 · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 November 2012, 07:00:04 am »

Seems there are 2 types of blind spots- the physical ones and the "mental" ones ! The physical result fro factors like position of mirrors & type of mirror lens-we are all taught about these & the importance of shoulder checks & lifesavers. The "mental" ones are related to factors like NOT THINKING, inexperience- eg practising" follow my leader" tactics, or ignorance of other vehicles blind spots, especially large vans & HGVs. Every training manual/DVD Ive ever seen talks about "staggered" positioning when 2 or more riders are riding together-this gives the best view and greatest safety margin for all concerned. Mostly its the "mental" ones that concern me

motodevcam · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 August 2017, 12:49:24 pm »

Was just doing a search for shoulder checks and this one came up. Passed my unrestricted A last month. The thing is that is what you're taught to do. Sit directly in the centre of the road. The Instructor put it like this "the centre of the lane is deemed the safest position for a new rider as it's assumed that you don't have the skills to take up and advanced riding position." Which is fine, but when you find yourself out there on your own it's very different.

One huge thing I've noticed is driving at the speed limit...always have someone (often a van) right up my chuffer. Didn't notice this before as always had the instructor behind.

Trying to book onto a ride safe course locally but none active at the mo.

Bretty · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 August 2017, 02:45:34 pm »

Ha, try riding in central London surrounded by a million cyclists and kamikaze moped riders. At the lights it's all elbows to get to the front and then when the lights change everyone guns it, cuts you up and doesn't look back. I find the concentration required fairly exhausting.

My only crash ever has been due to another bike sat in my blind spot, I was trying to find him when the car in front of me slammed on. I grabbed a handful of front brake and dropped the front. :-( ...and the first thing that went through my head... "sh1t! I've stopped on the yellow hatchings" double idiot as I quick pick the bike up and wheel it forward with complete disregard for any dangers around me. Oh well! It's experience .

pointer2null · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 August 2017, 02:47:48 pm »

Good you tube thread: http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadcraftNottingham

(p.s. does this break the record for bringing an old thread back to life? Nov 2012! #necro)

Frosties · « **Reply #18 on:** 20 August 2017, 04:39:22 pm »

Quote from: pointer2null on 20 August 2017, 02:47:48 pm

Good you tube thread: http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadcraftNottingham

(p.s. does this break the record for bringing an old thread back to life? Nov 2012! #necro)

This guy in the link above (Roadcraft) is excellent. Found one of his about positioning - link below. Take it all in fella it's all good stuff

Bretty · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 August 2017, 05:04:05 pm »

Oh, I'm commenting on an old thread. Haha!

It's interesting stuff lane positioning. I constantly move to either side to present myself to traffic emerging from junctions ahead. Else they don't see you, just think 'you' are a space which they then pull out into.

Don't worry about traffic up your arse, at the next junction or lights you'll just filter off into the distance.

motodevcam · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 August 2017, 05:40:12 pm »

Ha yeah thank you:) Follow him. Watched his peice on road positioning literally right after I posted the above.

Sorry to bring back an old thread, if the info is there I always think it's better to bring all of it back to life and add to it rather than cover old ground:)

Bretty · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 August 2017, 07:26:16 pm »

Nargh nargh! Don't bother using the search function. Just start a new topic. Have you thought about what tyres to get next? ;-) ;-P (that one comes up weekly)

pointer2null · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 August 2017, 07:30:34 pm »

No no no, not tyres - ask about counter steering (count to 10 and watch the argument start)

Frosties · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 August 2017, 08:17:10 pm »

Quote from: Bretty on 20 August 2017, 07:26:16 pm

Nargh nargh! Don't bother using the search function. Just start a new topic. Have you thought about what tyres to get next? ;-) ;-P (that one comes up weekly)

You have no imagination Bretty - brake pads is what we need and tyre pressures

darrsi · « **Reply #24 on:** 21 August 2017, 06:32:39 am »

Quote from: Frosties on 20 August 2017, 08:17:10 pm

Quote from: Bretty on 20 August 2017, 07:26:16 pm
Nargh nargh! Don't bother using the search function. Just start a new topic. Have you thought about what tyres to get next? ;-) ;-P (that one comes up weekly)

You have no imagination Bretty - brake pads is what we need and tyre pressures

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