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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Geordi Sussex on 02 February 2014, 09:46:33 pm
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Just made a deal for a YZF front end
Hopefully with swapping out the steering stem for the fazer one it will be a hassle free fit
But before it gets on I think I'll swap out fork seals
Any idea if the fzs calliper will fit onto yzf for legs?
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not sure about the calipers, I'd assume probably not.
Have you got a solution for the speedo?
Chris
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Have you got a solution for the speedo?
Depends on the wheel, luckily for mine it was simples, just had to file down the plastic pins from the sensor to fit flush with the Thundercat wheel!
As for the calipers not sure if you've got an R1 or R6 front end or what year, early ones are the same I believe.
I hope it's the entire front end (wheel, fender etc)
If not the fazer wheel and calipers will need spacing out!
Don't be surprised if the steering lock stops don't hit, and chances are the controls will hit the fairing before they did anyway- this isn't an issue, just reduces the turning circle, not only that but if using the clip on bars there may be the opposite issue of clearance against the tank.
You can keep the fazer handlebars but will obviously need to drill out the top yoke before fitting!
If you got it for the right price it's a good upgrade, have a day ready to go through it all
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Speedo solution is to replace the dials for a digital one
This will also be a smaller unit to fit behind the headlamp mask
Prob go for this one
http://bit.ly/1hZLfpb (http://bit.ly/1hZLfpb)
If the callipers won't fit I think I'll refurb the yzf ones before the refit starts
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Sounds good, looking forward to some pics!
Chris
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I have taken my inspiration from this bike
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/93D8E54F-B532-4BEE-B185-21A20770B7E5.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/93D8E54F-B532-4BEE-B185-21A20770B7E5.jpg.html)
Looks like the forks stick out of the top yoke due to the difference of lengths on the stem/neck
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Yeah they will stick out, this in turn can affect the angle of the standard bars!
Measure both forks and this will give you the length to have,the new ones coming out the top yoke to keep standard height
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If you need any measurements on the yzf let me know as my oldest son has one.
Andy
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Speedo solution is to replace the dials for a digital one
This will also be a smaller unit to fit behind the headlamp mask
Prob go for this one
[url]http://bit.ly/1hZLfpb[/url] ([url]http://bit.ly/1hZLfpb[/url])
If the callipers won't fit I think I'll refurb the yzf ones before the refit starts
Hmmm.... How easy would something like that be to fit? Both my speedo and tacho are up the swanny so something like this might be the answer for me too. Only problem is I have clip ons so mounting it might be tricky.
That pic with the USD forks looks the business :D
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My mate has that speedo on his chop
He got it working ok and the instructions arnt too bad
Or wait till I get the digital one and by mine off me
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My bike is naked so your clocks would be a bit wrong on here :(
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Pix of the front end I'm picking up tomorrow
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/FE859D17-E3C2-44C2-9198-D0647B45DCA6.png) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/FE859D17-E3C2-44C2-9198-D0647B45DCA6.png.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/816718CB-575B-428B-94D1-5486327CDC6E.png) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/816718CB-575B-428B-94D1-5486327CDC6E.png.html)
I have ordered a fork seal kit as I want to refer them before I put them on
Also going to get a brake caliper referb kit and make sure it's all working and safe before assembly
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I think the calipers fit the forks as I recall the blue spots are a popular upgrade with YZF owners
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Hi fuzzy
I'm not sure about that but it's somthing I can look at
I would have thought that 6 pot calipers would be better than the fazer 4 pots?
Please correct me if I'm wrong as I want to only work on it the once lol
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4 pot blue spots will be superior matey, more pots do not necessarily equal better braking.
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4 pot blue spots will be superior matey, more pots do not necessarily equal better braking.
Correct, on my SRAD750 6 pots were standard and they were shockingly shite, swapped for the 600 4 pots as did every other owner!
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Cool thanks for the advice
Well it could save me £60 on a referb kit if that's the case
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Ok first update
The stem from the fzs600 is 30mm where it goes into the yoke
The yzf750 hole for a stem is ?????
30mm
I think we have a winner
I also have found a machine shop with a press that can take out the stem and refit it
They also will mill out the caliper carrier so I can for the fzs600 blue dots
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/F3A803EC-4AC2-45D6-B6F1-9BF1B227B4E1.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/F3A803EC-4AC2-45D6-B6F1-9BF1B227B4E1.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/6E26C91C-E6CA-4204-86B9-09E0640F41B2.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/6E26C91C-E6CA-4204-86B9-09E0640F41B2.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/038EB866-3497-4FCF-985D-BA0758B27D9D.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/038EB866-3497-4FCF-985D-BA0758B27D9D.jpg.html)
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Looking good!
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Awesome! Will the brake line clear the bracket too?
Chris
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I have to say there not my pix that's what I'm going to be doing.
Should be able to make a start next week on it
Fingers crossed this front end swap will be Strait forward
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Just a little update
I've managed to score a used pair of blue dot calipers
So next week I'll be getting the stems swapped and the calipers carriers milled
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Are these any good?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-R1-4XV-Forks-/221368657519?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item338a99a66f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-R1-4XV-Forks-/221368657519?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item338a99a66f)
Please don't buy them from under me! :)
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I think he's got yzf750 forks already no?
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I think he's got yzf750 forks already no?
Geordi does, I want to know if those will fit mine! :rollin
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Yeah, saw your thread Christo, shalll be following. Lots of good builds going on atm :)
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I have all forks and yokes already off of a yzf
Christo
I'm not sure what your asking? Will they fit what?
If your asking will R1 forks fit fzs600 yokes the answer is no
Your also need the spindle, spacers front, fender etc...
I would be looking for a compleat front end not just forks
Don't forget with the R1 front end the fzs spindle is thinner so your need to get it adapted
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I have all forks and yokes already off of a yzf
Christo
I'm not sure what your asking? Will they fit what?
If your asking will R1 forks fit fzs600 yokes the answer is no
Your also need the spindle, spacers front, fender etc...
I would be looking for a compleat front end not just forks
Don't forget with the R1 front end the fzs spindle is thinner so your need to get it adapted
I'm trying to get my head round this upside down fork business.
I undestand the physics, I know they look great, I need to work out how the hell they actually fit, and what needs doing to make them fit!! :lol
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Nothing to do with the front end upgrade bit I scored a fazer 1000 blue dot rear caliper
Blue dots all round :)
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The rear caliper has arrived
I plan to start the referb next week
Hopefully will have some updates and I can get this part of the project moving forward
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Well joy of joys
I have been made redundant today
(I have a feeling it was going to happen)
But it means while I'm on my 45 day consultation period I will have time to get the bike sorted
Ps anyone got any jobs going in the south east????
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gutted for you man, hope you find something else soon!
In the mean time keep your spirits up by showing us bike progress :D
Chris
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Bit of a update
Im between job hunting I've made a start on the forks
I bought a fzs600 stem off eBay had it pushed into the YZF750 bottom yoke
I had the fork seal's done on the forks
Also the calpier carriers milled out to accept the blue dot calipers
Still to do is get top yoke drilled for the risers
Make the headlamp and digital speedo bracket/mount
Next week I should be able to swap the front ends over
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glad it's progressing, hope you find a job soon buddy.
Chris
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Thanks mate
Scored some riser off eBay so I should have them Monday
Will get the yokes drilled then I should be in a position to make the conversion
Also getting the fazer thou rear caliper so will get the mount milled out as well
Just got to think about brackets for the headlamp and digi speedo
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I'm trying to get my head round this upside down fork business.
I undestand the physics, I know they look great, I need to work out how the hell they actually fit, and what needs doing to make them fit!! :lol
Just remember, it means the wheel goes at the top :rollin
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I'm trying to get my head round this upside down fork business.
I undestand the physics, I know they look great, I need to work out how the hell they actually fit, and what needs doing to make them fit!! :lol
Just remember, it means the wheel goes at the top :rollin
Smartarse. :P
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I'm trying to get my head round this upside down fork business.
I undestand the physics, I know they look great, I need to work out how the hell they actually fit, and what needs doing to make them fit!! :lol
Just remember, it means the wheel goes at the top :rollin
:rollin
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Picked up the blue dot rear caliper from my mate today.
Should have pix next week of progress
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Ok update
Blue dot rear caliper fitted.
Front end mocked up ready to be fitted tomorrow
So there will be pictures.
Fingers crossed it all goes together ok
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Hope it goes ok man! Looking forward to the pics. 8)
Chris
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And just to prove I'm not just all talk ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/C3D1B920-3260-44DA-A6D5-8B1FAF882AE7.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/C3D1B920-3260-44DA-A6D5-8B1FAF882AE7.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/59FDAC41-65D8-4D75-A040-34CC9B797AD5.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/59FDAC41-65D8-4D75-A040-34CC9B797AD5.jpg.html)
It's been quite state forward
Will do more of a detailed write up over the next couple of days
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Nice one! Interesting look with the leading calipers
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Yeah, looks pretty different but I like it. You'll get loads of people saying you've got them the wrong way around though. haha
Chris
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I do like the look of the front end but why fit them with calipers out front?.. Or am i missin somethin? (not too hard these days btw) :)
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Fu¥k sake
Looks like I got more work to do tomorrow
I call it a school boy error
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A bit off topic but I see you have the k&n individual air filters fitted, was thinking of doing it myself but did you have to dynojet her after and put her on the rolling road to get her running smoothly? Also the forks look badass, but I reckon put the calipers the other way round... Looks a bit weird in my opinion :-P
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Fu¥k sake
Looks like I got more work to do tomorrow
I call it a school boy error
Still no wiser.. I figure you would say they are fitted that way because you can..
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A bit off topic but I see you have the k&n individual air filters fitted, was thinking of doing it myself but did you have to dynojet her after and put her on the rolling road to get her running smoothly?
It was put on a dyno but that was done before I got her
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/A5087E71-F41C-47EA-98A0-CEEF1A861011.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/A5087E71-F41C-47EA-98A0-CEEF1A861011.jpg.html)
The filters and stuby (cut down can) have a great howl to them
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Would love to get mine on the rolling road and get the Rev range smoothed out! You reckon it would make alot of difference fitting them in ridability?
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I've not ridden another fazer so I can't compare
Bit I have to say riding mine is fun :b
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Heh, they're all good to ride :D
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Very slick mate!
Could you let me know the diameter of the axle when you get a chance please?
Cheers,
Rob
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On the leading / trailing caliper thing, I think most bikes have them trailing as a safety feature.
As we all known, aluminium is a pretty weak metal. And braking forces are considerable. With trailing calipers, the calipers (and/or their brackets) push against the entire fork when they grip the disc. If the calipers are leading, they only pull against that little aluminum mounting point. Hello, fatigue and catastrophic failure!
If you want an example of a caliper that pulls against its mount, check out the torque arm on the rear brake. That's a substantial lump.
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What a mission of a day
But got it done. Looks a lot better
Also bumped into another fazer
Side by side I can't believe how chunky the bike looks
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Geordi/30DA0CD9-D927-4036-88FF-E20FADEC8332.jpg) (http://s.photobucket.com/user/Geordi/media/30DA0CD9-D927-4036-88FF-E20FADEC8332.jpg.html)
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Ok. A quick wrote up how the how to
Fitting a yzf750 from end is a relatively simple swap
The from end I got didn't have a stem in it so I'm not sure if it is direct bolt on job
But I bought a lower fzs600 yoke and stem off eBay
I had it pressed out and pressed into the yzf bottom yokes
Both arms are the same size so unlike R1 conversions no additional fabrication is required
It's also a great time to change your head bearings
If you have never changed head bearings it's a "fun" thing to do
The yzf dose not have risers so the yokes needs to be drilled
But as the ignition is off set you need to make sure that the holes are far enough away from the ignition housing that you can get the nut on
There is also a little tab that fouls on the left lock
So it needs to be ground off (prob best to do this then the front end is off
That's pritty much it
Good luck with your USD conversion.
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I had the lower parts of the forks milled out so I can use the blue do calipers
This also allowed me to use the standard fazer brake system
Apparently the blue dots are better than the 6 pots from the yzf
http://www.exup1000.co.uk/workshop/calipers.htm (http://www.exup1000.co.uk/workshop/calipers.htm)
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Looks great! Much better now the calipers are the right way round :-P health to enjoy matey!
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Aside from the looks, how does the handling compare with standard?
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It feels a little heavier
But going out for a long ride today so will see what it's like after that
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It feels a little heavier
Are the forks the same length as originals?
If they're longer this will make the bike feel heavy, dropping the forks through the yokes 5mm at a time then test ride could help.
Tyre pressure (mainly rear) can also make the bike feel heavy.
Other option is to raise the rear with a pair of dog bones!
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this looks interesting since im fed up of non adjustable suspension on mine....
also, what tail unit do you have ?