Quote from: AyJay on 22 January 2014, 08:31:59 pmQuote from: Grandma on 22 January 2014, 07:19:24 pmQuote from: PaulSmith on 07 January 2014, 10:40:59 amQuote from: Grandma on 07 January 2014, 06:00:48 am...Loved the Pirelli Angel ST, had them on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000 now on Fazer 8 which came with BT021's which I hated, as front kept feeling as if it was going to let go.Suppose in a lot of ways depends how you ride and what sort of mileage you do, found ST's also lasted well and didn't really square off as much as Bridgestone's Are you sure the Fazer 8 came with 021's? They were discontinued before the F8 was even invented.Quite definitely, checked with Yamaha and local tyre place who said they were put on as Original Equipment, sounds like they were probably trying to shift them, but rather shortsighted as could have put less determined riders off the bike!Manufacturers don't stock pile tyres for years. They go hard and that would be a legal death warrant if anyone crashed on them.Did you see the article in Bike a few months back about Avon. They said that even old models of tyres are updated with new compounds and technology over their lifetime, so even if BT021s are still being sold, chances are they are different and better than the ones we remember from 6-7 years ago.I hope so. As everyone has said, they were not very good at all….I think someone may have been mistaken. I don't doubt that the F8 came with BT 020, but that is the generic name for all Bridgestone Sport Touring tyres before the T30, and that might have been what the people you asked were answering. Bridgestone stopped making BT021's before the F8 was invented, so Yamaha could not have bought any from them. Yes of course Avon, Bridgestone and the rest improve their products through out their life, but not after they stop making them.
Quote from: Grandma on 22 January 2014, 07:19:24 pmQuote from: PaulSmith on 07 January 2014, 10:40:59 amQuote from: Grandma on 07 January 2014, 06:00:48 am...Loved the Pirelli Angel ST, had them on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000 now on Fazer 8 which came with BT021's which I hated, as front kept feeling as if it was going to let go.Suppose in a lot of ways depends how you ride and what sort of mileage you do, found ST's also lasted well and didn't really square off as much as Bridgestone's Are you sure the Fazer 8 came with 021's? They were discontinued before the F8 was even invented.Quite definitely, checked with Yamaha and local tyre place who said they were put on as Original Equipment, sounds like they were probably trying to shift them, but rather shortsighted as could have put less determined riders off the bike!Manufacturers don't stock pile tyres for years. They go hard and that would be a legal death warrant if anyone crashed on them.Did you see the article in Bike a few months back about Avon. They said that even old models of tyres are updated with new compounds and technology over their lifetime, so even if BT021s are still being sold, chances are they are different and better than the ones we remember from 6-7 years ago.I hope so. As everyone has said, they were not very good at all….
Quote from: PaulSmith on 07 January 2014, 10:40:59 amQuote from: Grandma on 07 January 2014, 06:00:48 am...Loved the Pirelli Angel ST, had them on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000 now on Fazer 8 which came with BT021's which I hated, as front kept feeling as if it was going to let go.Suppose in a lot of ways depends how you ride and what sort of mileage you do, found ST's also lasted well and didn't really square off as much as Bridgestone's Are you sure the Fazer 8 came with 021's? They were discontinued before the F8 was even invented.Quite definitely, checked with Yamaha and local tyre place who said they were put on as Original Equipment, sounds like they were probably trying to shift them, but rather shortsighted as could have put less determined riders off the bike!
Quote from: Grandma on 07 January 2014, 06:00:48 am...Loved the Pirelli Angel ST, had them on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000 now on Fazer 8 which came with BT021's which I hated, as front kept feeling as if it was going to let go.Suppose in a lot of ways depends how you ride and what sort of mileage you do, found ST's also lasted well and didn't really square off as much as Bridgestone's Are you sure the Fazer 8 came with 021's? They were discontinued before the F8 was even invented.
...Loved the Pirelli Angel ST, had them on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000 now on Fazer 8 which came with BT021's which I hated, as front kept feeling as if it was going to let go.Suppose in a lot of ways depends how you ride and what sort of mileage you do, found ST's also lasted well and didn't really square off as much as Bridgestone's
A friend has just bought a 750 VFR with new 021's on them & he has found the same without any prompting from me as I was interested to see what he thought as he is very experienced & he can't wait to change them only done 1500 miles
I've had BT020, 021, 022 and 023. I've also had PR2's and PR3's. Now I've got Metzeler Z8's. All of these were chosen for longevity and wet-weather grip. THAT's what they're good at! According to your post, you're not interested in either, so these are not the tyres for you. Look at Michelin Pilot Powers or Pirelli Diabli Rosso, etc, etc.
Quote from: Grandma on 23 January 2014, 11:27:21 amA friend has just bought a 750 VFR with new 021's on them & he has found the same without any prompting from me as I was interested to see what he thought as he is very experienced & he can't wait to change them only done 1500 milesAsk him to check the data of manufacture of the tyres, it will be embossed on the sidewall, then he will know how 'new' the tyres are.
Quote from: PaulSmith on 24 January 2014, 04:00:56 pmQuote from: Grandma on 23 January 2014, 11:27:21 amA friend has just bought a 750 VFR with new 021's on them & he has found the same without any prompting from me as I was interested to see what he thought as he is very experienced & he can't wait to change them only done 1500 milesAsk him to check the data of manufacture of the tyres, it will be embossed on the sidewall, then he will know how 'new' the tyres are. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120-70-17-180-55-17-ZR-Bridgestone-Battlax-BT021-FAZER-1000-Motorcycle-Tyres-/301066892816?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4618fc3610
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