Quote from: simonm on 28 March 2013, 04:18:11 pmQuote from: Streetbudgie on 28 March 2013, 04:02:44 pmQuote from: Tiberius Onklevaart on 28 March 2013, 03:12:22 pmOut of interest, when having passengers in the car, do we sit there in silence? Are they banned from uttering a word, lest they remove you from the zone? I knew this one would come up - other car occupants are aware of what's happening at the same time as you are so if you were driving in a snowstorm then yes, they would be quiet and allow you to concentrate on the job in hand However this is about why the hell are telephone conversations necessary whilst riding a motorcycle - not driving a car, so the point is moot. What radio station and what kitchen utensils you listen to and play with are entirely up to you, neither requires a licence to do so and anyone entering your kitchen does so at their own risk, other road users do not have any choice and are entitled to the same standard of concentration and driving from everyone.So by your definition you never look at the scenery either as it's not "the job in hand"? What a boring life. Riding is about being confident enough in your ability and the bike and your experience to actively enjoy the ride. If that is looking at scenery, humming whilst listening to music or talking to a pillion, fellow rider or your mum in law. I have bluetooth hands free in my car and since I've been driving for 15 years feel that I am capable of talking meaningless dross with my mum or wife whilst still being able to look at hazards, drive confidently and enjoy myself (apart from having to listen to the mum or wife) And you will carry on believing that you do not need 100% concentration until you have an accident, ever heard the saying pride goes before a fall? Your ability is only part of what is required to keep you alive on the road, what if you meet someone just like you on the road one day who isn't fully concentrating? With your attitude you may well end up one of those people that claims never to have had an accident in a hundred years of motoring but has never looked behind them to see what they caused either. Take an advanced riding course and see what they have to say about it - and don't quote that they use intercoms to teach you, that's a learning tool and not over used during the lessons or used for idle chatter which takes your mind off riding.
Quote from: Streetbudgie on 28 March 2013, 04:02:44 pmQuote from: Tiberius Onklevaart on 28 March 2013, 03:12:22 pmOut of interest, when having passengers in the car, do we sit there in silence? Are they banned from uttering a word, lest they remove you from the zone? I knew this one would come up - other car occupants are aware of what's happening at the same time as you are so if you were driving in a snowstorm then yes, they would be quiet and allow you to concentrate on the job in hand However this is about why the hell are telephone conversations necessary whilst riding a motorcycle - not driving a car, so the point is moot. What radio station and what kitchen utensils you listen to and play with are entirely up to you, neither requires a licence to do so and anyone entering your kitchen does so at their own risk, other road users do not have any choice and are entitled to the same standard of concentration and driving from everyone.So by your definition you never look at the scenery either as it's not "the job in hand"? What a boring life. Riding is about being confident enough in your ability and the bike and your experience to actively enjoy the ride. If that is looking at scenery, humming whilst listening to music or talking to a pillion, fellow rider or your mum in law. I have bluetooth hands free in my car and since I've been driving for 15 years feel that I am capable of talking meaningless dross with my mum or wife whilst still being able to look at hazards, drive confidently and enjoy myself (apart from having to listen to the mum or wife)
Quote from: Tiberius Onklevaart on 28 March 2013, 03:12:22 pmOut of interest, when having passengers in the car, do we sit there in silence? Are they banned from uttering a word, lest they remove you from the zone? I knew this one would come up - other car occupants are aware of what's happening at the same time as you are so if you were driving in a snowstorm then yes, they would be quiet and allow you to concentrate on the job in hand However this is about why the hell are telephone conversations necessary whilst riding a motorcycle - not driving a car, so the point is moot. What radio station and what kitchen utensils you listen to and play with are entirely up to you, neither requires a licence to do so and anyone entering your kitchen does so at their own risk, other road users do not have any choice and are entitled to the same standard of concentration and driving from everyone.
Out of interest, when having passengers in the car, do we sit there in silence? Are they banned from uttering a word, lest they remove you from the zone?
Quote from: simonm on 28 March 2013, 04:20:53 pmQuote from: Dead Eye on 28 March 2013, 01:22:48 pmThe third is the most important - it uses the accelerometer in my phone to detect a crash / fall from my bike. If it does then it will send a text message to a designated contact including my GPS location and a link to Google Maps so that they can get help to me if necessary. My contact knows to check latitude first to see if I am still moving and if it is just a false reading.Please can you tell me what app you use for this bit ?CheersSimonThis appears to have brought up several requests in my inbox haha, should have mentioned it :PThe app is called CRADAR and is by ActionXL
Quote from: Dead Eye on 28 March 2013, 01:22:48 pmThe third is the most important - it uses the accelerometer in my phone to detect a crash / fall from my bike. If it does then it will send a text message to a designated contact including my GPS location and a link to Google Maps so that they can get help to me if necessary. My contact knows to check latitude first to see if I am still moving and if it is just a false reading.Please can you tell me what app you use for this bit ?CheersSimon
The third is the most important - it uses the accelerometer in my phone to detect a crash / fall from my bike. If it does then it will send a text message to a designated contact including my GPS location and a link to Google Maps so that they can get help to me if necessary. My contact knows to check latitude first to see if I am still moving and if it is just a false reading.
That appears to be exactly the same app as me haha :P
When is it suitable to not give 100% concentration whilst operating something that could kill you or others?
I knew this one would come up - other car occupants are aware of what's happening at the same time as you are so if you were driving in a snowstorm then yes, they would be quiet and allow you to concentrate on the job in hand
So by your definition you never look at the scenery either as it's not "the job in hand"? What a boring life. Riding is about being confident enough in your ability and the bike and your experience to actively enjoy the ride. If that is looking at scenery, humming whilst listening to music or talking to a pillion, fellow rider or your mum in law.
if you want to answer your phone when riding then do so, if you dont well dont, simples PERSONAL CHOICE.
At least you made a worthwhile contribution yourself there with the inclusion of tits
Just a thought, but maybe if you could talk on your phone whilst riding there might be a few more luverly laydie bikers I'll get me jacket........................
Even if you did have your phone - she wouldn't pick up, even though it's probably glued to her ear 24/7 .................